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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 12:25:33
Message: <4976090d$1@news.povray.org>
Does this mean that the rest of the world will stop hating us (the USA) now?

Yes, it's a dumb question, but the Bush hatred was so prevalent that if 
there were any other reasons to hate the US, they were overshadowed if not 
completely forgotten.

Bush may have been the worst President in my lifetime.  Nixon screwed up, 
was paranoid, etc.  Carter just didn't seem to know what to do.  But Bush 
seemed to do whatever the **** he wanted, and never bothered to explain why 
to anyone, least of all the American people.  World opinion could have been 
swayed to some extent if he had given it a reasonable attempt, but he never 
did.  In the end, I'm left to believe that he really didn't care what anyone 
else thought.  If he was ever "right" about any of his major decisions, it 
will be up to historians several decades from now.

Obama will not be pulling out of Iraq any time soon.  Dates will lapse.  New 
reasons for staying will be given.  Left-wing activists will begin to 
realize that, "OMG!  He's a politician!"  The economy isn't going to pick up 
any time soon.  Lucky for him, at least, it has probably bottomed out now. 
But in the meantime, he gets the benefit of being a very new fresh face that 
appears to be 180 degrees from Bush.

I'm quite interested to see how things will pan out over the next few years. 
New doors will open, but tough decisions will need to be made, and they may 
not always be popular with the American people or the rest of the world. 
But, in my opinion, he's a good enough speaker to make his decisions become 
popular.

I wish him well.  :-)

(Just my $0.02USD.  I realize this is an international forum, and that's why 
I posted it here.  I hope to hear several viewpoints.)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 12:57:02
Message: <4976106e$1@news.povray.org>
"Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecmo> wrote in message 
news:4976090d$1@news.povray.org...

   I was going to post a subject: "Who will run the US, Barak or Hillary?"

   I can't see that relationship working well. I think Hillary will see 
Barak as the 'new boy on the block', and will want to advise 'too' much.

     I hope I'm wrong, and it works.

    Good luck to Barak though, let's see a much better world, it's about 
time.

   (Btw, to me, Bush was all about money because of his own (apparent) 
failings in his early oil businesses).

       ~Steve~


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From: Halbert
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 13:41:35
Message: <49761adf$1@news.povray.org>
> Bush may have been the worst President in my lifetime.

You might have been able to make the same comment even if you were 250 years 
old. I think he may very well be the worst *ever*.

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 13:46:30
Message: <49761c06@news.povray.org>
I'm optimistic.  He won't cure cancer, but has a much needed cool new 
vibe around him.  I hope he knows where his towel is. :)


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From: Halbert
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 13:50:41
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
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> I'm optimistic.  He won't cure cancer, but has a much needed cool new vibe 
> around him.  I hope he knows where his towel is. :)

Hopefully, this isn't all just a ploy on his part to steal the infinate 
improbability drive. ;-)

-- 


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 14:10:41
Message: <497621b1$1@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
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> I'm optimistic.  He won't cure cancer, but has a much needed cool new vibe 
> around him.

well said .... ditto


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 14:13:04
Message: <49762240@news.povray.org>
Halbert escreveu:
> "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
> news:49761c06@news.povray.org...
>> I'm optimistic.  He won't cure cancer, but has a much needed cool new vibe 
>> around him.  I hope he knows where his towel is. :)
> 
> Hopefully, this isn't all just a ploy on his part to steal the infinate 
> improbability drive. ;-)

haha, good catch! ;)


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 14:23:56
Message: <497624cc$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
>    I was going to post a subject: "Who will run the US, Barak or Hillary?"
> 
>    I can't see that relationship working well. I think Hillary will see 
> Barak as the 'new boy on the block', and will want to advise 'too' much.

	Too early to say, but I expect that Hillary has plans for the White
House in 2016. She'll do whatever it takes to make Obama's
administration look good - otherwise it'll hurt her chances. Likely, I
think that means doing whatever Obama tells her to.

-- 
On a clear disk you can seek forever.


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                                   anl


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 14:24:52
Message: <49762504$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> I'm optimistic.  He won't cure cancer, but has a much needed cool new
> vibe around him.  I hope he knows where his towel is. :)

	You're not suggesting that he's an alien, and the Earth is about to be
destroyed by Vogons, and he plans to just abandon us, do you?

-- 
On a clear disk you can seek forever.


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                       >>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
                                   anl


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: President Obama
Date: 20 Jan 2009 14:31:15
Message: <49762683$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
> was paranoid, etc.  Carter just didn't seem to know what to do.  But Bush 
> seemed to do whatever the **** he wanted, and never bothered to explain why 
> to anyone, least of all the American people.  World opinion could have been 

	Sure he did. Very frequently. They were all dumbed down and very
unconvincing to intelligent people, but for quite a while they succeeded
in convincing many. They didn't re-elect him for no reason, you know.

	Besides, who listens to the president any more? Pundits break it down
and are the ones to go to. How many people do you know who are more
likely to watch the president give a press conference than they are to
listen to a summary with commentary on some TV station?

> Obama will not be pulling out of Iraq any time soon.  Dates will lapse.  New 
> reasons for staying will be given.  Left-wing activists will begin to 
> realize that, "OMG!  He's a politician!"  The economy isn't going to pick up 
> any time soon.  Lucky for him, at least, it has probably bottomed out now. 
> But in the meantime, he gets the benefit of being a very new fresh face that 
> appears to be 180 degrees from Bush.

	I dunno. Never could get a good grip on the economy, but I strongly
suspect that it has a long way to go before it bottoms out. And that may
finally be the reason to leave Iraq. Things are pretty scary. Krugman
claimed that the job loss rate is now at half a million per month (I
didn't bother verifying). If it continues, 2009 will be far worse than
2008. Of course, if you actually listen to Krugman, his predictions are
far more dire. I hope he didn't earn that Nobel Prize.<G>

	But yes, I think that they're so happy Bush is gone that he'll have
some leeway for at least a year or so to do whatever he wants.

-- 
On a clear disk you can seek forever.


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                       >>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
                                   anl


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