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From: Invisible
Subject: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 04:44:31
Message: <496b10ff$1@news.povray.org>
Ah yes, no Monday morning would be complete without me crawling around 
the lab floor trying to fix obscure PC problems. :-}

Today, a PC wouldn't boot (or even POST). On Friday it was fine, today 
it won't work. The PSU is really very warm indeed. Turned it off, blew 
some dust out of it, let it cool for a while. Now it works fine. GO FIGURE.

I need a vacuum cleaner...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 05:43:46
Message: <496b1ee2$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Ah yes, no Monday morning would be complete without me crawling around 
> the lab floor trying to fix obscure PC problems. :-}

Obscure recurring problems.

> Today, a PC wouldn't boot (or even POST). On Friday it was fine, today 
> it won't work. The PSU is really very warm indeed. Turned it off, blew 
> some dust out of it, let it cool for a while. Now it works fine. GO FIGURE.

...and then it failed again. Once again the PSU feels much too hot. So I 
replaced it.


cardboard box with a plain steel lump inside that has half a dozen 
cables dangling off it.


each. And for that, you get a nicely printed box with a *shiny* metal 
lump inside. It's metalic black (if that makes any sense at all) and has 
a high-gloss finish. I can practically see my reflection in it! And on 
the top it has a beautifully printed spec sheet with the company logo 
next to it. And it claims to be "ultra-low noise". Well, in our lab, 
that's kind of unimportant. (Recall that I measured sound levels of 80 
dB and more in there!)

I wonder if it'll fix the problem though? Maybe the fan on the other one 
just isn't spinning right any more or something? We'll see...

> I need a vacuum cleaner...

This turns out to be rather harder than you might imagine. You'd think 
somebody somewhere would make a vacuum device especially for cleaning 
the inside of PCs... but no. I found no end of USB-powered keyboard 
vacuums, but that's it. I also found several portable car or household 
cleaners, but they're not specifically designed for computers. Oh, and 

so it has a high-quality filter on it.

Hmm, oh well!


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 08:49:02
Message: <496b4a4e$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Ah yes, no Monday morning would be complete without me crawling around 
>> the lab floor trying to fix obscure PC problems. :-}
> 
> Obscure recurring problems.
> 
>> Today, a PC wouldn't boot (or even POST). On Friday it was fine, today 
>> it won't work. The PSU is really very warm indeed. Turned it off, blew 
>> some dust out of it, let it cool for a while. Now it works fine. GO 
>> FIGURE.
> 
> ...and then it failed again. Once again the PSU feels much too hot. So I 
> replaced it.
> 

> cardboard box with a plain steel lump inside that has half a dozen 
> cables dangling off it.
> 

> each. And for that, you get a nicely printed box with a *shiny* metal 
> lump inside. It's metalic black (if that makes any sense at all) and has 
> a high-gloss finish. I can practically see my reflection in it! And on 
> the top it has a beautifully printed spec sheet with the company logo 
> next to it. And it claims to be "ultra-low noise". Well, in our lab, 
> that's kind of unimportant. (Recall that I measured sound levels of 80 
> dB and more in there!)
> 
> I wonder if it'll fix the problem though? Maybe the fan on the other one 
> just isn't spinning right any more or something? We'll see...
> 
>> I need a vacuum cleaner...
> 
> This turns out to be rather harder than you might imagine. You'd think 
> somebody somewhere would make a vacuum device especially for cleaning 
> the inside of PCs... but no. I found no end of USB-powered keyboard 
> vacuums, but that's it. I also found several portable car or household 
> cleaners, but they're not specifically designed for computers. Oh, and 

> so it has a high-quality filter on it.
> 
> Hmm, oh well!

They say the first sign of insanity isn't necessarily talking to 
yourself. Its when you start answering back that you've truly crossed 
the line into insane.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 10:01:07
Message: <496b5b33@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> They say the first sign of insanity isn't necessarily talking to 
> yourself. Its when you start answering back that you've truly crossed 
> the line into insane.

Well, nobody else is talking to me. :-P


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 11:01:13
Message: <B6515F0C0C04489F9962E64E6459E20B@HomePC>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Invisible [mailto:voi### [at] devnull]
> Mike Raiford wrote:
> 
> > They say the first sign of insanity isn't necessarily talking to
> > yourself. Its when you start answering back that you've truly
crossed
> > the line into insane.
> 
> Well, nobody else is talking to me. :-P

Give us a chance :)  Your first message is dated 1:45am, your second one
2:45am... not my optimal posting time :)

...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 11:05:57
Message: <496b6a65$1@news.povray.org>
>> Well, nobody else is talking to me. :-P
> 
> Give us a chance :)  Your first message is dated 1:45am, your second one
> 2:45am... not my optimal posting time :)

Really? Heh, what time zone are *you* in...

> ...Ben Chambers
> www.pacificwebguy.com

...oh, right. I see.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 12:18:08
Message: <496b7b50$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> However, I went up-marked.

In case that wasn't just a typo, the term is "up-market", as in "higher store".

>> I need a vacuum cleaner...
> This turns out to be rather harder than you might imagine.

You want one specifically designed not to cause static. A battery or 
USB-powered one should be fine for cleaning out a computer.


-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 12:22:35
Message: <496b7c5b$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I need a vacuum cleaner...

http://www.amazon.com/VACUUM-MICRO-ATTACHMENTS-9-PIECE-KIT/dp/B000BSJCLY

That one looks pretty good. Or, as one person recommended, use canned air 
and only suck it up once it's outside the case, since the dust on the end of 
the host makes for serious static charge.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 13:59:19
Message: <496b9307$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> You want one specifically designed not to cause static. A battery or 
> USB-powered one should be fine for cleaning out a computer.

Heh, Now there's a new product idea: Shock and amuse your friends with 
an all-in-one Vacuum and Van Der Graaf generator.

What's really fun is standing underneath those plastic slides on a dry 
day. You can actually feel the static charge move by as someone slides 
down.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Monday fun!
Date: 12 Jan 2009 15:20:25
Message: <496ba609$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:43:48 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> This turns out to be rather harder than you might imagine. You'd think
> somebody somewhere would make a vacuum device especially for cleaning
> the inside of PCs... but no. I found no end of USB-powered keyboard
> vacuums, but that's it. I also found several portable car or household
> cleaners, but they're not specifically designed for computers. Oh, and
> one cleaner that's £100 because it's designed to suck up toner powder,
> so it has a high-quality filter on it.

I've got a "micro vacuum attachment kit" for a regular vacuum cleaner 
that works really well for getting the inside of my PCs.

Jim


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