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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Quite rare
Date: 10 Jan 2009 09:54:59
Message: <4968b6c3$1@news.povray.org>
Today I got a message saying "please update your credit card details on 
our website"...



...and it *wasn't* spam. It was actually from a real company that I 
really do transact with. How rare is that?

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 10 Jan 2009 13:54:25
Message: <4968eee1$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> ...and it *wasn't* spam. It was actually from a real company that I 
> really do transact with. How rare is that?

Are you sure it wasn't spam that happened to be pretending to be one of the 
companies you do business with?

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 10 Jan 2009 16:11:34
Message: <49690f06$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> ...and it *wasn't* spam. It was actually from a real company that I 
>> really do transact with. How rare is that?
> 
> Are you sure it wasn't spam that happened to be pretending to be one of 
> the companies you do business with?

Well, let me put it this way: The entire email failed to contain *any* 
links at all. (They merely asked me to log in to update my details.) It 
greeted me by the actual username with their system. The email contained 
the (correct) last few digits of my card number. And the company in 
question is tiny and virtually unknown anyway.

But sure, theoretically it could be a huge coincidence... ;-)

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 10 Jan 2009 18:38:26
Message: <496931D7.7030207@hotmail.com>
On 10-Jan-09 22:11, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> ...and it *wasn't* spam. It was actually from a real company that I 
>>> really do transact with. How rare is that?
>>
>> Are you sure it wasn't spam that happened to be pretending to be one 
>> of the companies you do business with?
> 
> Well, let me put it this way: The entire email failed to contain *any* 
> links at all. (They merely asked me to log in to update my details.) It 
> greeted me by the actual username with their system. The email contained 
> the (correct) last few digits of my card number. And the company in 
> question is tiny and virtually unknown anyway.
> 
> But sure, theoretically it could be a huge coincidence... ;-)
> 
Or somebody did hack their system.

Did you give them the information they wanted?


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 11 Jan 2009 05:16:21
Message: <4969c6f5$1@news.povray.org>
>> But sure, theoretically it could be a huge coincidence... ;-)
>>
> Or somebody did hack their system.
> 
> Did you give them the information they wanted?

They were writing to tell me the card number they have expires in a few 
weeks' time (which is true), and wanted me to give them a new card number.

If somebody did hack their system, they already have my current card 
number. And the expiry date. And my username. What more could they 
possibly want?

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 11 Jan 2009 07:25:15
Message: <4969E591.5070102@hotmail.com>
On 11-Jan-09 11:16, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> But sure, theoretically it could be a huge coincidence... ;-)
>>>
>> Or somebody did hack their system.
>>
>> Did you give them the information they wanted?
> 
> They were writing to tell me the card number they have expires in a few 
> weeks' time (which is true), and wanted me to give them a new card number.
> 
> If somebody did hack their system, they already have my current card 
> number. And the expiry date. And my username. What more could they 
> possibly want?
> 
It is still rather unusual to ask for that information if you did not 
buy anything at that moment. Unless of course the credit card is 
credited monthly or so. Yet, I have never heard of such a scheme.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 11 Jan 2009 08:47:01
Message: <4969f855@news.povray.org>
>> If somebody did hack their system, they already have my current card 
>> number. And the expiry date. And my username. What more could they 
>> possibly want?
>>
> It is still rather unusual to ask for that information if you did not 
> buy anything at that moment. Unless of course the credit card is 
> credited monthly or so. Yet, I have never heard of such a scheme.

Credit card is billed yearly. (I forget which month though...)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 11 Jan 2009 12:56:43
Message: <496a32db$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> But sure, theoretically it could be a huge coincidence... ;-)

Just checking. It's not like they don't target particular companies. :-)

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 11 Jan 2009 14:15:00
Message: <496a4534$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Today I got a message saying "please update your credit card details on
> our website"...
> 
> 
> 
> ...and it *wasn't* spam. It was actually from a real company that I
> really do transact with. How rare is that?
> 

I just received mail from "Paypal", which said that they think my
account has been compromised. It even has notes to check possible
privacy issues with real address to Paypal's security information. Just
the links are pointed to false site and the sender address wasn't
actually Paypal's.

I forwarded it to Paypals spoofbox.

-Aero


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Quite rare
Date: 11 Jan 2009 14:26:53
Message: <496a47fd$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
> I forwarded it to Paypals spoofbox.

And they answered. 10 minutes to check out that kind of mail - that's
some kind of service.

> -Aero

-Aero


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