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> I worry about the human race... Seriously, how did a species so stupid
> survive for so long?
You are forgetting that there are plenty of clever people, who continuously
work out devious ways to extract all the money from the varying degrees of
stupid people.
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scott wrote:
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> http://www.bash.org/?258908
>
Kind of.. owned :D.
-Aero
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And lo On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:15:25 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> did
spake thusly:
> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>
>> Trouble is occasionaly one of these fruitcakes turns out to be correct
>> and due to the highly specialised technical nature of things the
>> general public have little way of telling who is and isn't correct (and
>> of course there's that latin phrase you know so well).
>
> The more a read about psychology, the more I realise that PEOPLE ARE
> STUPID!
>
> The number of experiments I've read about where the test subjects do
> things which are obviously irrational is quite astonishing.
Selection bias - the only people you can test are those who volunteer to
be tested so all results gained may not apply to the majority who
wouldn't. It's the same with questionaires and television ratings the only
people measured are those who agree to be measured unless you work for TfL
of course
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3971799.ece
> (For example, you show people photos from a pair of digital cameras.
> Most people prefer camera X, and a few prefer camera Y. Now you tell
> them that camera X is 5 megapixels, but camera Y is 10 megapixels.
> Suddenly everybody prefers the photos from camera Y. WTF??)
Because the marketing crowd have told them more pixels are better and why
would they lie? On the same theme a group were asked to judge something
measurable, but the groups had been planted with people told to lie. The
actual test subjects tended to go along with the lies when they appeared
in the majority.
> I worry about the human race... Seriously, how did a species so stupid
> survive for so long?
Dumb luck? To be honest I think it's something that's only really showing
up now. Our brains, bodies, and reactions have evolved in certain ways
that made sense 10,000 plus years ago when we lived in small tribes and
those ingrained skills are getting confused.
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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"scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote in message news:4964bd70@news.povray.org...
>> I worry about the human race... Seriously, how did a species so stupid
>> survive for so long?
>
> You are forgetting that there are plenty of clever people, who
> continuously work out devious ways to extract all the money from the
> varying degrees of stupid people.
pt barnum said it all .... there's a sucker born every minute.
haha .... just in case, I googled that before posting and apparently that's
in doubt.
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Invisible wrote:
> The more a read about psychology, the more I realise that PEOPLE ARE
> STUPID!
>
> The number of experiments I've read about where the test subjects do
> things which are obviously irrational is quite astonishing.
>
> (For example, you show people photos from a pair of digital cameras.
> Most people prefer camera X, and a few prefer camera Y. Now you tell
> them that camera X is 5 megapixels, but camera Y is 10 megapixels.
> Suddenly everybody prefers the photos from camera Y. WTF??)
>
> I worry about the human race... Seriously, how did a species so stupid
> survive for so long?
You think that's bad. I saw a documentary recently on cults. They
mentioned a psychological experiment where they had one real subject and
the rest planted. The task was simple, a sheet with a bar was shown next
to a sheet with 3 bars, The subject, and planted "subjects" were asked
to say out loud which of the three were the same. The plants would give
an obvious incorrect answer, while initially the subject would give the
correct answer, they eventually started to give the same answer as the
rest of the group. WTF?
GroupThink is scary.
--
~Mike
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And lo On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:24:54 -0000, Mike Raiford
<"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> did spake thusly:
> GroupThink is scary.
Doubly scary as that was the example I was thinking of :-)
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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>> GroupThink is scary.
>
> Doubly scary as that was the example I was thinking of :-)
NOO! WE'RE ALL LEMMINGS!! ;_;
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Invisible wrote:
> http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/the-medias-mmr-hoax/
>
> Hmm... worrying indeed.
>
> I should probably stop reading now. :-/
Yay. The London Science Museum (!!) has written a page about the "risks"
involved in MMR. It even has a link to the JABS pressure group website
for "further advice".
EPIC FAIL.
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Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> And lo On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:24:54 -0000, Mike Raiford
> <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> did spake thusly:
>
>> GroupThink is scary.
>
> Doubly scary as that was the example I was thinking of :-)
>
Haha, I read what you posted after I submitted my post. It sounded
eerily similar.
--
~Mike
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Maybe I just find it upsetting that hundreds of scientists have spent
> thousands of man-years pouring research into this lethal disease to find
> out what causes it, but then some random person goes "hey, actually, I
> think really you're all wrong - I don't have any logic or evidence, I
> just believe this, for no particular reason". And now other people
> actually *believe* this nonesense. And people are dying because of it.
I have not fully understood why, but conspiracy theories are extremely
enticing, especially when properly presented.
And believing conspiracy theories is not something exclusive to certain
types of people (ie. stupid ones), but also very intelligent, educated,
logically thinking people can get entrapped into believing some wacky
conspiracy theory. I have seen this first-hand. (Fortunately I have been
able to mostly talk them out of it.)
Maybe this is something related to human psychology.
--
- Warp
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