>> And that reminds me...
>>
>> A girl can walk into a room wearing scarlet, or wearing a dramatic 
>> short skirt, and people sit up and take notice. There is absolutely 
>> nothing a male can do which elicits a similar reaction.
> 
> I don't know I've had unsolicited female compliments for both my scarlet 
> and purple/lilac shirts.

When I wear my fuscia shirt, people just say "um... it's very *bright*".

I can only recall a handful of occasions *in my entire life* when 
somebody has some something nice about me that was unsolicited.

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Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/25/genderissues

Just like that, yes. :-)  I always liked evolution just-so stories. I think 
those are exactly the sorts of things that cause people to have a hard time 
believing it - they sound too much like fables of religion without any 
backing, and too easy to poke holes in.  Once you know what kinds of 
evidence evolution actually finds, it makes a lot more sense.

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Darren New wrote:
> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/25/genderissues
> 
> Just like that, yes. :-)  I always liked evolution just-so stories. I 
> think those are exactly the sorts of things that cause people to have a 
> hard time believing it - they sound too much like fables of religion 
> without any backing, and too easy to poke holes in.  Once you know what 
> kinds of evidence evolution actually finds, it makes a lot more sense.

Now I'm wondering... what the heck is a "just so story"?

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Now I'm wondering... what the heck is a "just so story"?

Generally childrens' stories explaining parts of the world as fables. Like, 
"why does the rabbit have long ears and sit up?"  The story goes that some 
mother-nature figure caught the bunny spying on her one time, so made it so 
he had to sit up straight when he stopped, but gave him long ears so he 
could hear anyway, or some such.

Sort of like Aesop's fables, only explaining the world rather than morals.

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   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>
> > But don't take my word for it, ask one of the ladies here.
>
> OK ladies, wadayathink...?

O.K. here is my take on the situation. I started wearing skirts in my late
teens, only on special occasions though (mostly to impress you guys). Until
then I was wearing jeans, except on Christmas when they forced me to wear a
dress. In a very young age, I typically wore those tight pants (with an elastic
band under my foot, sixties style). We never had to wear school uniforms, but as
far as I remember all the girls wore trousers at school.

I purchased my very first pink top about two years ago (they ran out of black,
red and green ones in the shop and I needed one quickly). Then I realized I
liked the color so I bought another this year.


curse as these shoes are usually extremely painful to wear in the long run.

Guess different countries have different traditions, but lately this has been
changing up here in Iceland. Now you see girls dressed up princess style. Very
weird, must be some outside influence. Not very practical in the cold.

Hildur K.

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And lo On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:17:29 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>  
did spake thusly:

> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/25/genderissues
>
> Just like that, yes. :-)  I always liked evolution just-so stories. I  
> think those are exactly the sorts of things that cause people to have a  
> hard time believing it - they sound too much like fables of religion  
> without any backing, and too easy to poke holes in.  Once you know what  
> kinds of evidence evolution actually finds, it makes a lot more sense.

Trouble is I can see these guys sitting around having a conversation like  
this:

"So everyone likes blue, but women are drawn to red; why?"
"Um, the sky's blue"
"Yes excellent and everyone knows a blue sky is a good thing"
"Unless it's really cold, or you want it to rain or..."
"Shut-up! Blue is always good. Now what about red why just for women?"
"Men were hunters"
"Yes that's it men were hunters, women foragers they gathered the berries  
which were better when red."
"So why don't we all eat holly seeds?"
"Will you shut-up. Blue for sky red for berries. Time to publish methinks"

-- 
Phil Cook

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On 07-Jan-09 4:45, Hildur K. wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> andrel wrote:
>>
>>> But don't take my word for it, ask one of the ladies here.
>> OK ladies, wadayathink...?
> 
> O.K. here is my take on the situation. 

[]
> 
> Hildur K.
> 
Didn't realize Hildur was a female. Probably also not really relevant 
here. ;) I'll try to forget as soon as possible.
Anyway the implied question was if you think there are things a guy can 
wear that would make you turn your head in a positive way.

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Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Now I'm wondering... what the heck is a "just so story"?
> 
> Generally childrens' stories explaining parts of the world as fables. 
> Like, "why does the rabbit have long ears and sit up?"  The story goes 
> that some mother-nature figure caught the bunny spying on her one time, 
> so made it so he had to sit up straight when he stopped, but gave him 
> long ears so he could hear anyway, or some such.

My God... Is there anything Wikipedia doesn't talk about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-so_story

So it's a story that fits the evidence, but is completely unprovable. (?)

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Invisible wrote:
> So it's a story that fits the evidence, but is completely unprovable. (?)

Well, that's what it means here. But Kipling's stories are the canonical 
source of the expression "Just So story". I suspect perhaps Kipling had 
children or grandchildren who just wouldn't STFU and kept asking Why Why 
Why, until he started making up stories.  (And yes, that too is a JSS ;-)

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On 08-Jan-09 15:47, Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Now I'm wondering... what the heck is a "just so story"?
>>
>> Generally childrens' stories explaining parts of the world as fables. 
>> Like, "why does the rabbit have long ears and sit up?"  The story goes 
>> that some mother-nature figure caught the bunny spying on her one 
>> time, so made it so he had to sit up straight when he stopped, but 
>> gave him long ears so he could hear anyway, or some such.
> 
> My God... Is there anything Wikipedia doesn't talk about?

I think I am not mentioned anywhere. ;)

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