I have OpenSUSE 11 installed as a guest OS under Virtual PC, so I no longer 
have to reboot my machine to answer a boss' question about something funky 
some Linux box is doing, or use ssh to tunnel a graphical interface from a 
server, or something like that. Niiice.

Does "quad core" mean four complete ALUs? Or does it mean four register sets 
hyperthreading? What do they call it if it's hyperthreading?

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Darren New wrote:
> I have OpenSUSE 11 installed as a guest OS under Virtual PC, so I no
> longer have to reboot my machine to answer a boss' question about
> something funky some Linux box is doing, or use ssh to tunnel a
> graphical interface from a server, or something like that. Niiice.

Way to go.

> Does "quad core" mean four complete ALUs? Or does it mean four register
> sets hyperthreading? What do they call it if it's hyperthreading?

It means four cores, ie. four units that really calculate things
simultaneously inside one CPU.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_15331_15332%5E15334,00.html

-Aero

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> use ssh to tunnel a graphical interface from a
> server, or something like that. Niiice.

So, you exchanged some weight of running an X app over the network by a lot of
weight for running 2 OSes on a single machine instead of a lightweight plain
text ssh session?  Not niiiice... :P

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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> use ssh to tunnel a graphical interface from a
>> server, or something like that. Niiice.
> 
> So, you exchanged some weight of running an X app over the network by a lot of
> weight for running 2 OSes on a single machine instead of a lightweight plain
> text ssh session?  Not niiiice... :P

I have a quad-core machine with 6 gig of RAM here. :-) I'd still be running 
an X app over the network - I just wouldn't have to install an X server on 
Windows. I install Linux on Windows, and the X server on Linux. ;-)

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Darren New wrote:
> I have OpenSUSE 11 installed as a guest OS under Virtual PC, so I no 
> longer have to reboot my machine to answer a boss' question about 
> something funky some Linux box is doing, or use ssh to tunnel a 
> graphical interface from a server, or something like that. Niiice.

Uh... why not just use a Windows SSH client?

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> I have OpenSUSE 11 installed as a guest OS under Virtual PC, so I no 
>> longer have to reboot my machine to answer a boss' question about 
>> something funky some Linux box is doing, or use ssh to tunnel a 
>> graphical interface from a server, or something like that. Niiice.
> 
> Uh... why not just use a Windows SSH client?

Because ssh is a transport, and X is a graphics subsystem? Kind of the same 
reason I use pov-ray to draw pictures instead of VI.

Let me rephrase, since I seem to have confused people. Now I can remotely 
log in to a server via SSH and run GUI programs on that server without 
having to stop what I'm doing in Windows.  (Or install an X server on Windows.)

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>> Uh... why not just use a Windows SSH client?
> 
> Because ssh is a transport, and X is a graphics subsystem? Kind of the 
> same reason I use pov-ray to draw pictures instead of VI.
> 
> Let me rephrase, since I seem to have confused people. Now I can 
> remotely log in to a server via SSH and run GUI programs on that server 
> without having to stop what I'm doing in Windows.  (Or install an X 
> server on Windows.)

I use VNC for this very reason... ;-)

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Darren New wrote:
> 
> Let me rephrase, since I seem to have confused people. Now I can
> remotely log in to a server via SSH and run GUI programs on that server
> without having to stop what I'm doing in Windows.  (Or install an X
> server on Windows.)
> 

I'll have to ask, why is X server on Windows a beast?

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Darren New wrote:
> (Or install an X server on Windows.)

As if that was too hard! Search for Xming. Or use Cygwin/X... but I'd use
Xming unless I already have Cygwin stuff installed.

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I use VNC for this very reason... ;-)

Yeah. I did too, for a while, until I figured out how to make X run. You 
thought X was slow over a slow network? Try VNC.

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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> (Or install an X server on Windows.)
> 
> As if that was too hard!

I didn't say it was hard. It's simply unnecessary. Running a program 
remotely isn't the only problem this solves. It lets me also set up an 
environment at home matching the one at work, including Apache, MySQL, etc 
etc etc, none of which reliably work the same under Windows.

I can't believe I'm getting arguments against running Linux on this forum. ;-)

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Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> I use VNC for this very reason... ;-)
> 
> Yeah. I did too, for a while, until I figured out how to make X run. You 
> thought X was slow over a slow network? Try VNC.

I did. Tunnelled over SSH from my home PC to my desk at work. :-D

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>> You thought X was slow over a slow network? Try VNC.
> 
> I did. Tunnelled over SSH from my home PC to my desk at work. :-D

You know you've been raytracing too long when you set up a VPN to your 
house so you can check your POV-Ray renderings from work! o_O

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Darren New wrote:
> 
> I didn't say it was hard. It's simply unnecessary. Running a program
> remotely isn't the only problem this solves. It lets me also set up an
> environment at home matching the one at work, including Apache, MySQL,
> etc etc etc, none of which reliably work the same under Windows.

Ah, that answers to my question also.

> I can't believe I'm getting arguments against running Linux on this
> forum. ;-)

Well, layering Win+X or Win+Lin+X there should be a slight difference in
eg. memory usage, preferring the first one.

-Aero

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> You know you've been raytracing too long when you set up a VPN to your 
> house so you can check your POV-Ray renderings from work! o_O

I did that. It sucked. Until I switched to RDP, so at least the splash 
screen only got sent once a day. :)

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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Well, layering Win+X or Win+Lin+X there should be a slight difference in
> eg. memory usage, preferring the first one.

Sure. But I have 6G here. I'm not running low any time soon. :-)

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Darren New wrote:
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
>> Well, layering Win+X or Win+Lin+X there should be a slight difference in
>> eg. memory usage, preferring the first one.
> 
> Sure. But I have 6G here. I'm not running low any time soon. :-)
> 

Having a lot of something doesn't automatically mean it's wise to use it
as quickly as possible ;). But yes, while you practically need to run
Linux somehow anyway, the solution sounds more than reasonable.

-Aero

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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> But yes, while you practically need to run
> Linux somehow anyway, the solution sounds more than reasonable.

I already have Linux installed. That doesn't mean I always want to boot out 
of Windows, interrupting what I'm doing, in order to load Linux when I need 
it. :-)

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   The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
   see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.

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Darren New wrote:
> 
> I already have Linux installed. That doesn't mean I always want to boot
> out of Windows, interrupting what I'm doing, in order to load Linux when
> I need it. :-)
> 

Booting between two systems is annoying, especially for cheking some
little thing. It cancels all you're doing in that very moment and takes
time. Hibernating can ease up a bit, while it's not necessary to shut
down all applications etc, but such booting is still a PITA.

-Aero

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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Having a lot of something doesn't automatically mean it's wise to use it
> as quickly as possible ;).

Or, as one boss said, "The transistors don't get tired. That's why they're 
there."

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   The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
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