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Gail wrote:
> depending what records the ISP keeps,
And lots of places are passing laws requiring ISPs to keep more records, and
turn them over with less provocation and proof than ever.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Invisible wrote:
> What use would an ISP have for recording this information?
First, they have to know who you are to validate you're allowed to use their
network, right? You log in with name and password.
Second, they keep it because when the police show up and say "Hey, someone
broke into the NSA servers from IP address x.x.x.x at yy:yy" and the ISP
says "Sorry, can't help you", the ISP gets in trouble.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:49:10 -0000, "Phil Cook v2"
<phi### [at] nospamrocain freeservecouk> wrote:
>> Mine was a safety award, so it cost me nada :)
>
>LOL What was it an attempt to let someone else win next time?
>"Congratulations on your excellent safety record, here have a nice sharp
>knife for your very own. I'll hope you'll carry it around with you at all
>times"
No the whole crew got one for X many days without a lost time accident. And
every one did carry a knife. If you don't work in an office then it is pretty
much essential.
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Gail wrote:
> If your knife blunts after cutting paper, it's a very poor quality knife.
Quite possibly. The "3 cuts" was an exaggeration of course, but IME any
knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all
the other knives in the building.
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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>> Isn't that kind of patronising to young girls who geniunely *are* highly
>> intelligent?
>
> I dinnae ken so I'll leave it to our young girls to answer :)
I'll tell you what mate, if any young, intelligent 7 year old girls
actually answer this post, I'll buy you a friggin drink myself! :-P
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:04:40 +0000, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>Gail wrote:
>
>> If your knife blunts after cutting paper, it's a very poor quality knife.
>
>Quite possibly. The "3 cuts" was an exaggeration of course, but IME any
>knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all
>the other knives in the building.
That could be because no one sharpens them. Or is it entropy or the bad knife
fairy?
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Stephen
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>>> If your knife blunts after cutting paper, it's a very poor quality knife.
>> Quite possibly. The "3 cuts" was an exaggeration of course, but IME any
>> knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all
>> the other knives in the building.
>
> That could be because no one sharpens them. Or is it entropy or the bad knife
> fairy?
There seems little point in sharpening a blade unless it's actually
going to *stay* sharp for a reasonable period of time.
Not entropy, just the fact that solid objects all wear down when used. ;-)
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:06:03 +0000, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Isn't that kind of patronising to young girls who geniunely *are* highly
>>> intelligent?
>>
>> I dinnae ken so I'll leave it to our young girls to answer :)
>
>I'll tell you what mate, if any young, intelligent 7 year old girls
>actually answer this post, I'll buy you a friggin drink myself! :-P
You're changing the rules. I only said young.
I would think that brownies and the like would have better things to do than
hang out here. I could be wrong but if I am I'll buy you a pint.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:11:41 +0000, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>>> If your knife blunts after cutting paper, it's a very poor quality knife.
>>> Quite possibly. The "3 cuts" was an exaggeration of course, but IME any
>>> knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all
>>> the other knives in the building.
>>
>> That could be because no one sharpens them. Or is it entropy or the bad knife
>> fairy?
>
>There seems little point in sharpening a blade unless it's actually
>going to *stay* sharp for a reasonable period of time.
>
There's no point in getting out of bed in the morning when your only going to
get back in, in the evening.
>Not entropy, just the fact that solid objects all wear down when used. ;-)
There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza,
There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, a hole.
Then fix it, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
Then fix it, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, then Fix it.
With what shall I fix it, dear Liza, dear Liza?
With what shall I fix it, dear Liza, with what?
With some straw, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
With some straw, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, some straw.
The straw is too long, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The straw is too long, dear Liza, too long,
Then cut it, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
Then cut it, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, then cut it.
With what shall I cut it, dear Liza, dear Liza?
With what shall I cut it, dear Liza, with what?
With an axe, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
With an axe, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, with an axe.
The axe is too dull, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The axe is too dull, dear Liza, too dull.
Then sharpen it, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
Then sharpen it, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, sharpen it.
With what shall I sharpen it, dear Liza, dear Liza?
With what shall I sharpen it, dear Liza, with what?
With a stone, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
With a stone, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, with a stone.
The stone is too dry, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The stone is too dry, dear Liza, too dry.
Then wet it, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
Then wet it, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, then wet it.
With what shall I wet it, dear Liza, dear Liza?
With what shall I wet it, dear Liza, with what?
With water, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
With water, dear Andrew, dear Andrew, with water.
In what shall I get it, dear Liza, dear Liza?
In what shall I get it, dear Liza, in what?
In a bucket dear Andrew, dear Andrew, dear Andrew,
In a bucket dear Andrew, dear Andrew, in a bucket.
There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza,
There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, a hole.
--
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Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> That could be because no one sharpens them. Or is it entropy or the bad knife
> fairy?
Third law of knife dynamics.
--
~Mike
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Stephen wrote:
[snip apt singalong]
*applause*
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all
> the other knives in the building.
Buy a ceramic knife. Just don't drop it.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Stephen wrote:
> I would think that brownies and the like would have better things to do than
> hang out here. I could be wrong but if I am I'll buy you a pint.
LOL! One would hope so.
Mmm... what I could do with a pint of Baileys... :-D
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>
> Quite possibly. The "3 cuts" was an exaggeration of course, but IME any
> knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all
> the other knives in the building.
>
That's odd, my 12-year-old Swiss army knife (yes!) is still amazingly
sharp and I don't recall sharpening it even once. My kitchen knives
(made by Hackman) are also in good condition (though I don't use them
much - I'm not that much into cooking).
-Aero
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:25:19 +0200, "Gail" <gail (at) sql in the wild (dot)
> co
> [dot] za> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
>>news:4936b046$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>>>> From there, depending what records the ISP keeps, they can probably
>>>> tell
>>>> what username was usign that IP at that time.
>>>
>>> This is the part that I doubt.
>>
>>Why?
>>
> NTB ;)
Sorry, you lost me.
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Gail wrote:
>
>> If your knife blunts after cutting paper, it's a very poor quality knife.
>
> Quite possibly. The "3 cuts" was an exaggeration of course, but IME any
> knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all the
> other knives in the building.
I have kitchen knives that are still razor sharp 10 years after they were
given to me.
I've had my penknive and kitchen scissors sharpened once in the 5 years I've
had them.
Buy yourself a good quality knife, or stop using them to cut concrete
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Gail wrote:
> I have kitchen knives that are still razor sharp 10 years after they
> were given to me.
>
> Buy yourself a good quality knife, or stop using them to cut concrete
...! o_O
In the immortal words of that great fictional character, "THAT'S a knife!"
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>>>> From there, depending what records the ISP keeps, they can probably
>>>> tell what username was usign that IP at that time.
>>>
>>> This is the part that I doubt.
>>
>> Why?
>
> What use would an ISP have for recording this information?
Legal complience
Billing records
Troubleshooting
Data mining
Because they can
The systems log logins and logouts automatically, along with IP address,
probably the client PC's name and OS. There's no manual intervention and the
logs will probably roll over after a pre-defined period (probably quite a
large one)
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:22:20 +0000, Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom>
wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>[snip apt singalong]
>
>*applause*
<Bows to the audience> <g>
--
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Stephen
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:10:31 +0200, "Gail" <gail (at) sql in the wild (dot) co
[dot] za> wrote:
>
>"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
>news:4936e657$1@news.povray.org...
>> Gail wrote:
>>
>>> If your knife blunts after cutting paper, it's a very poor quality knife.
>>
>> Quite possibly. The "3 cuts" was an exaggeration of course, but IME any
>> knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all the
>> other knives in the building.
>
>I have kitchen knives that are still razor sharp 10 years after they were
>given to me.
>I've had my penknive and kitchen scissors sharpened once in the 5 years I've
>had them.
>
>Buy yourself a good quality knife, or stop using them to cut concrete
What about your katana?
--
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Stephen
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:36:17 +0000, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>
>> I would think that brownies and the like would have better things to do than
>> hang out here. I could be wrong but if I am I'll buy you a pint.
>
>LOL! One would hope so.
>
>Mmm... what I could do with a pint of Baileys... :-D
To a BROWNIE! Boy that is sick, sick, sick. :-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:05:50 +0200, "Gail" <gail (at) sql in the wild (dot) co
[dot] za> wrote:
>> NTB ;)
>
>Sorry, you lost me.
Not Too Bright (It might be my own)
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>> Mmm... what I could do with a pint of Baileys... :-D
>
> To a BROWNIE! Boy that is sick, sick, sick. :-)
Is now a bad time to mention the pictures of my little sister in her
brownie uniform, and how cute she looked?
--
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> What about your katana?
Intentionally slightly blunted. It can still cut straight through a 20 cm
block of polystyrene in one strike.
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:23:36 -0600, Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>
>> That could be because no one sharpens them. Or is it entropy or the bad knife
>> fairy?
>
>Third law of knife dynamics.
1. A blunt knife always slips.
2. A dropped knife lands point in foot.
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:56:40 +0200, "Gail" <gail (at) sql in the wild (dot) co
[dot] za> wrote:
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>"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
>news:u6vdj41s7j4ok63ldju78a32354viq87lh@4ax.com...
>>
>> What about your katana?
>
>Intentionally slightly blunted. It can still cut straight through a 20 cm
>block of polystyrene in one strike.
I suppose you don't really want a sword to be razor sharp. It could get stuck if
used in anger.
A clean cut through polystyrene is impressive. I've cut up polystyrene blocks
with a knife and it takes a lot of force and the blade mostly sticks.
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Stephen
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:45:56 +0000, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Mmm... what I could do with a pint of Baileys... :-D
>>
>> To a BROWNIE! Boy that is sick, sick, sick. :-)
>
>Is now a bad time to mention the pictures of my little sister in her
>brownie uniform, and how cute she looked?
LOL I'm just glad Dr John's not around (I must drop him a mail)
He thinks your sister looks more than cute, add the Baileys and there would be
no holding him :)
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Stephen
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
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> I suppose you don't really want a sword to be razor sharp. It could get
> stuck if
> used in anger.
Nah. If it's to be used, the sharper the better.
Local laws - if it's sharp it's a weapon. If it's blunted, it's an ornament
> A clean cut through polystyrene is impressive. I've cut up polystyrene
> blocks
> with a knife and it takes a lot of force and the blade mostly sticks.
Admittedly, that was with a full strike from above my head
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:12:18 +0200, "Gail" <gail (at) sql in the wild (dot) co
[dot] za> wrote:
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>"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
>news:850ej4pm8omga55d89d1rfal3f6ufq652g@4ax.com...
>
>> I suppose you don't really want a sword to be razor sharp. It could get
>> stuck if
>> used in anger.
>
>Nah. If it's to be used, the sharper the better.
>
I didn't want to be too gruesome as the children are still up. But my
understanding is if the blade is sharp enough it can get jammed in major bones
also against European type armour it can stick.
>Local laws - if it's sharp it's a weapon. If it's blunted, it's an ornament
>
Ochone! I'll be just telling O'Neill that his shillelagh is a bit of a joke
where you come from. If that's ok wit you? :)
>> A clean cut through polystyrene is impressive. I've cut up polystyrene
>> blocks
>> with a knife and it takes a lot of force and the blade mostly sticks.
>
>Admittedly, that was with a full strike from above my head
A cut and not smashing it to smithereens?
I'm still impressed.
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Stephen wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:22:20 +0000, Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom>
> wrote:
>
>> Stephen wrote:
>> [snip apt singalong]
>>
>> *applause*
>
> <Bows to the audience> <g>
<throws underwear>
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Stephen wrote:
> 2. A dropped knife lands point in foot.
My experience is that a dropped knife lands point-first on the expensive
hardwood floor.
Feet heal.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Stephen wrote:
> Not Too Bright (It might be my own)
Probably from the Matrix, when Neo comes in to see the Oracle.
O: "I can see why she likes you. You're cute."
Neo: "Who?"
O: "Not too bright, tho."
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:48:03 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> Not Too Bright (It might be my own)
>
>Probably from the Matrix, when Neo comes in to see the Oracle.
>
>O: "I can see why she likes you. You're cute."
>Neo: "Who?"
>O: "Not too bright, tho."
My wife has been using NTB for longer than that. I won't say to whom :)
Gail: Have you read any Justina Robson?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justina_Robson#Novels
You might like her Quantum Gravity series.
--
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Stephen
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:33:56 +0000, Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom>
wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:22:20 +0000, Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen wrote:
>>> [snip apt singalong]
>>>
>>> *applause*
>>
>> <Bows to the audience> <g>
>
><throws underwear>
<Exit stage left> <Very, very fast>
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Stephen
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:45:16 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> 2. A dropped knife lands point in foot.
>
>My experience is that a dropped knife lands point-first on the expensive
>hardwood floor.
>
>Feet heal.
That's why you catch it with your foot :)
(The last time I droped a £2 coin, it hit me on the back of the head as I bent
down to pick it up :)
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Stephen
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> There seems little point in sharpening a blade unless it's actually going
> to *stay* sharp for a reasonable period of time.
I sharpen my big kitchen knife about once every month, it surprising how you
don't notice it going blunt gradually, but then after sharpening it boy is
it nice to use :-) I hate going to my mum's house and trying to use her
knives, you need to apply about 10x as much force to cut!
The only disadvantage with a really sharp knife is that you don't even
notice when you've cut yourself "oh, why is this potato red inside?" :-)
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> What use would an ISP have for recording this information?
So they know who to contact if they get any complaints about a certain IP.
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>> What about your katana?
>
> Intentionally slightly blunted. It can still cut straight through a 20
> cm block of polystyrene in one strike.
...why do you own a katana? o_O
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>>> What about your katana?
>>
>> Intentionally slightly blunted. It can still cut straight through a 20 cm
>> block of polystyrene in one strike.
>
> ...why do you own a katana? o_O
Why not?
I've done martial arts (including sword work) for 14 years. It's an ornament
(along with the knives) and it's sometimes used for solo practice.
It is balanced for use. I made sure of that before buying it. The difference
in feel between the katana and the woodern swords is definitly noticable.
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>> ...why do you own a katana? o_O
>
> Why not?
...OK ._.
> I've done martial arts (including sword work) for 14 years. It's an
> ornament (along with the knives) and it's sometimes used for solo practice.
Oh, right. I see.
One of my dad's friends used to collect samuri swords. But [apparently]
his wife wasn't really thrilled about having a house full of blades so
sharp they can cut through silk under its own weight.
...so now he collects decorated sword *handles*. o_O
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> One of my dad's friends used to collect samuri swords. But [apparently]
> his wife wasn't really thrilled about having a house full of blades so
> sharp they can cut through silk under its own weight.
Blades of that quality are *expensive* (and I'm not talking a few hundred
pounds. Think tens or hundreds of thousands for the authentic ones)
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Gail wrote:
>> One of my dad's friends used to collect samuri swords. But
>> [apparently] his wife wasn't really thrilled about having a house full
>> of blades so sharp they can cut through silk under its own weight.
>
> Blades of that quality are *expensive* (and I'm not talking a few
> hundred pounds. Think tens or hundreds of thousands for the authentic ones)
I believe they were second-hand off Ebay rather than "new", but other
than that I couldn't really say...
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Gail wrote:
>
>>> One of my dad's friends used to collect samuri swords. But [apparently]
>>> his wife wasn't really thrilled about having a house full of blades so
>>> sharp they can cut through silk under its own weight.
>>
>> Blades of that quality are *expensive* (and I'm not talking a few hundred
>> pounds. Think tens or hundreds of thousands for the authentic ones)
>
> I believe they were second-hand off Ebay rather than "new", but other than
> that I couldn't really say...
When I say authentic, I mean antique, as in pre 18th century.
The replicas aren't as expensive, but also usually aren't the same quality
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:59:25 +0100, "scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
>> There seems little point in sharpening a blade unless it's actually going
>> to *stay* sharp for a reasonable period of time.
>
>I sharpen my big kitchen knife about once every month, it surprising how you
>don't notice it going blunt gradually, but then after sharpening it boy is
>it nice to use :-) I hate going to my mum's house and trying to use her
>knives, you need to apply about 10x as much force to cut!
>
I sharpen my kitchen knifes every other time I use them with a "Kitchen Devils
Lifestyle Super Sharpener" <puke name>
http://tinyurl.com/636jlx
>The only disadvantage with a really sharp knife is that you don't even
>notice when you've cut yourself "oh, why is this potato red inside?" :-)
>
Eh! Rule number # cut away from yourself or even better use a potato peeler.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> Eh! Rule number # cut away from yourself or even better use a potato peeler.
No, rule number 1: If a vegatable slicer comes with a protective hand
guard, YOU SHOULD USE IT!!
(My mum disregarded this rule, and amputated her fingernail as a result.
Man, there was a lot of blood that day... Took months to regrow too!)
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>>I sharpen my big kitchen knife about once every month, it surprising how
>>you
>
> I sharpen my kitchen knifes every other time I use them with a "Kitchen
> Devils
Hehe I only use it about once or twice a week, so sharpening it once a month
is all that is usually necessary.
>>The only disadvantage with a really sharp knife is that you don't even
>>notice when you've cut yourself "oh, why is this potato red inside?" :-)
>>
>
> Eh! Rule number # cut away from yourself or even better use a potato
> peeler.
Oh this was for slicing up the potato, without realising I had sliced into
my thumb, just enough for a tiny bit of blood to spread across the wet skin
and wet potato. It took me a few seconds to realise what had happened!
BTW, are those things for dicing onions any good? I saw one but it looked so
flimsy the thought of putting an onion in there to dice all in once go
looked like it would just snap the thing.
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:11:45 +0100, "scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
>> Eh! Rule number # cut away from yourself or even better use a potato
>> peeler.
>
>Oh this was for slicing up the potato, without realising I had sliced into
>my thumb, just enough for a tiny bit of blood to spread across the wet skin
>and wet potato. It took me a few seconds to realise what had happened!
>
Even though I state the rule I find it hard to follow it ;)
>BTW, are those things for dicing onions any good? I saw one but it looked so
>flimsy the thought of putting an onion in there to dice all in once go
>looked like it would just snap the thing.
>
You are speaking to the wrong person when you ask about onions. I have an
aversion to them so if I cook with them, I cook them whole then take them out of
the food before serving. O_O
--
Regards
Stephen
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Invisible wrote:
> (My mum disregarded this rule, and amputated her fingernail as a result.
> Man, there was a lot of blood that day... Took months to regrow too!)
Do I have to say it?
She should be kept away from power tools, sharp objects, and electrical
wiring at all costs.
--
~Mike
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Do I have to say it?
>
> She should be kept away from power tools, sharp objects, and electrical
> wiring at all costs.
...which is amusing considering that her job used to be running
electrical wiring (which involves using power tools and various cutting
implements).
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Invisible wrote:
> ...which is amusing considering that her job used to be running
> electrical wiring (which involves using power tools and various cutting
> implements).
Ironic, yeah?
--
~Mike
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