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Invisible wrote:
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> Right. And after you've used the knife trice, it'll be blunt. :-P
>
That means the knife is crap. Get a real knife instead (try the swiss
army ones, for example).
-Aero
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Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> Ha! You need a Swiss Army Knife for Christmas ;)
>
> Leatherman; let the fight begin :-)
>
Both are good, though older leathermans tend to have such sharp edges
that you can't actually use them as proper tools.
I use SAK's since I've got two of them for free - no need to spend money
if it's not necessary.
-Aero
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And lo On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:51:56 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> did
spake thusly:
>>>>> Do you have *any idea* how many people live in Milton Keynes? ;-)
>>>> Over 200,000 last count, but how many searching for "test" at 16:12
>>>> on Wed 02?
>>>
>>> Probably not many. No way of knowing *who* though. :-P
>> Police shut down paedo/jihad site, find logs, check referrers and ask
>> Google and ISPs to provide matching information. I'm not talking in
>> theory, it's been done.
>
> OK, so if the police shut down the brownie's website, they might be able
> to figure out what I visited it. But they're not going to, are they?
>
> I'm sure if a sufficiently resourceful government organisation wants to
> find out who's using a given IP address, they can find out. What I'm
> saying is that the brownies themselves can't passively obtain this
> information just because I visit their site.
No, but they could spot that a certain IP (some ISPs like to fix your
number) visits quite regularly and spends a lot of time on the galleries
and contact the police about it. Not saying anything would be done about
it, but in this current climate it wouldn't surprise me at all.
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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Invisible wrote:
> This still doesn't explain who the ISP is supposed to keep track of
> several thousand computers all concurrently using their system.
I wouldn't want to use an ISP that couldn't keep track of which computers
are connected to their network. I wouldn't use a mobile phone company that
couldn't tell where my phone was at any given time, either. They sort of
*have* to to make the service work, yes?
> OK, so they give the *police* that information. They're not going to
> give it to anybody else, are they? :-P
Depends. If the court orders them to give the records to a private company,
then sure. (Like, if someone things you stole something or otherwise
committed a civil crime over the internet, anyone suing you might be able to
get the records.) Certainly true in the USA.
If someone sues you for contract violations in the UK, don't they have the
ability to make you reveal records related to the lawsuit?
> OK, so they know I came from Google. They still don't know what I
> searched for. :-P
But google can tell them. There may be an interface that they can see that,
too.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Invisible wrote:
> Probably not many. No way of knowing *who* though. :-P
You would be surprised. If you ever ordered something online, for example,
somebody knows who it was. There are entire systems set up to figure out
which IPs are in what areas based on people with close IP numbers filling
out demographics on cooperating systems. I.e., I have 192.23.45.12, and
someone with 192.23.45.15 fills out a form somewhere that says they live on
my street. There's a good chance 192.23.45.12 is in the same postal code.
That's part of how "geolocation" works.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Gail wrote:
> depending what records the ISP keeps,
And lots of places are passing laws requiring ISPs to keep more records, and
turn them over with less provocation and proof than ever.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Invisible wrote:
> What use would an ISP have for recording this information?
First, they have to know who you are to validate you're allowed to use their
network, right? You log in with name and password.
Second, they keep it because when the police show up and say "Hey, someone
broke into the NSA servers from IP address x.x.x.x at yy:yy" and the ISP
says "Sorry, can't help you", the ISP gets in trouble.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:49:10 -0000, "Phil Cook v2"
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>> Mine was a safety award, so it cost me nada :)
>
>LOL What was it an attempt to let someone else win next time?
>"Congratulations on your excellent safety record, here have a nice sharp
>knife for your very own. I'll hope you'll carry it around with you at all
>times"
No the whole crew got one for X many days without a lost time accident. And
every one did carry a knife. If you don't work in an office then it is pretty
much essential.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Gail wrote:
> If your knife blunts after cutting paper, it's a very poor quality knife.
Quite possibly. The "3 cuts" was an exaggeration of course, but IME any
knife, no matter how sharp initially, quickly becomes as blunt as all
the other knives in the building.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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>> Isn't that kind of patronising to young girls who geniunely *are* highly
>> intelligent?
>
> I dinnae ken so I'll leave it to our young girls to answer :)
I'll tell you what mate, if any young, intelligent 7 year old girls
actually answer this post, I'll buy you a friggin drink myself! :-P
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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