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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 24 Jan 2009 01:04:01
Message: <497aaf51$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:12:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:05:05 -0000, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>>"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
>>news:qc7kn4dlqq2n3f0o6o5j6dgarvdvdn7npt@4ax.com...
>>> On 23 Jan 2009 13:50:28 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let's just say that it was fortunate there were no chopsticks inserted
>>>into unexpected facial orifices during the meal.
>>
>>
>>> My wife doesn't allow me to go out with people like that. I tend to
>>> use non
>>> sequiturs. Like "Do you like hospital food?"
>>
>>  LOL! Good job I didn't stick a fork up my nostril then! ;)
>>
> Why?

Methinks the answer here almost certainly must be "because that would 
really hurt!"

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 24 Jan 2009 04:04:12
Message: <497ad98c@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:05:05 -0000, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

> Why?

    Because I don't like hospital food?

      ~Steve~


> Regards
>     Stephen


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 24 Jan 2009 04:10:12
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:11:42 -0000, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
>>news:1l5kn4te4h02d823hah2g08oh2eku1ike1@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Shoot to kill!
>>
>>   Play to kill!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzBIe8Q6K6Y
>>
>>    ~Steve~ (AC/DC fan)  :)
>>
>
> Here is something a friend linked
>
> http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5442963/Achim_Reichel_Der_Erlkoenig

      Cool, I like it when people use unusual instruments. What it that 
one??

        ~Steve~


>
> -- 
>
> Regards
>     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 24 Jan 2009 05:26:35
Message: <vsqln4h5vop8hh3h1qkgjg8m0pf1rbrcic@4ax.com>
On 23 Jan 2009 19:39:47 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> I generally say "I'll take you to" ;)
>
>Yeah, see, that was our expectation.  When the bill came and they started 
>dividing it up, that's when the debate began.  They ended up paying for 
>the drinks as well as their share.  We were fine paying for my wife's 
>friend (who tagged along) - since she wasn't part of the initial invite.  
>We were gobsmacked, I tell you.  Gobsmacked!
>

Welcome to our city. LOL


>> They probably wanted you to buy them a drink in an expensive nightclub.
>
>That wouldn't have surprised me in the least.  What's even funnier is 
>that the person in question attended a conference here in the US a few 
>years later, and acted like nothing happened.  Fortunately, this person 
>spent their time talking to a colleague of mine (whom they had asked "is 
>he gay?" - Seriously, during the infamous dinner, because he's not 
>married) so I was spared having to make polite conversation.  Given the 
>venue and my role, I couldn't have said what I was really thinking.  I 
>like getting paid too much.
>

Is he gay, is it catching?
<shakes head in disbelief>


>Now if my own shape would just reflect that by not being so "bean-
>shaped". ;-)
>

Atypical Americans or Brits for that mater. ;-)


>> Yes, there as quite a few nice bars there. I know a couple. :)
>
>The one we went to was upstairs.  That probably doesn't narrow it down 
>much, though.  It had a sort of nightclub feel to it, coloured lights and 
>such.  If I saw a photo, I'd probably recognise it.

My mission is to go to all the bars in Soho and take photographs :)
Thank you. ;)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 24 Jan 2009 05:30:39
Message: <kcrln4514rid0flivmp2rfju2l50ar570q@4ax.com>
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:09:57 -0000, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>      Cool, I like it when people use unusual instruments. What it that 
>one??

No idea, I thought that it might be an electrc sitar but...
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 24 Jan 2009 05:36:51
Message: <terln410scs3u19q89b5iu2v942cslu68k@4ax.com>
On 24 Jan 2009 01:02:16 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

 
>>>> And mine was to a PovCon in Paris.
>>>> 
>>>> Buzz!
>>>> 
>>>> Hesitation
>>>
>>>Buzz!
>>>
>>>Repetition!
>>>
>> Buzz!
>> 
>> Deviation!
>
>Buzz!
>
>Repetition!
>

Buzz!

Repetition!

>>>Pont Marie.
>>>
>>>
>> Since you mentioned Soho, Pigalle.
>
>Oooh!  Nice move.  You get a bonus point for that. :-)
>

Thank you very much (for the Aintree Iron)

>But now I have to balance it out.....
>
>Saint-Michel - Notre-Dame
>

The weather is not nice so "Gare du Nord"
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 25 Jan 2009 15:59:18
Message: <497cd2a6$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:36:24 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 24 Jan 2009 01:02:16 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>> And mine was to a PovCon in Paris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Buzz!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hesitation
>>>>
>>>>Buzz!
>>>>
>>>>Repetition!
>>>>
>>> Buzz!
>>> 
>>> Deviation!
>>
>>Buzz!
>>
>>Repetition!
>>
> Buzz!
> 
> Repetition!

Buzz!

Um, what's another word for "Repetition"? ;-)

>>>>Pont Marie.
>>>>
>>> Since you mentioned Soho, Pigalle.
>>
>>Oooh!  Nice move.  You get a bonus point for that. :-)
>>
> Thank you very much (for the Aintree Iron)

Do you get to choose your prize? ;-)

>>But now I have to balance it out.....
>>
>>Saint-Michel - Notre-Dame
>>
> The weather is not nice so "Gare du Nord"

OK, I'll take the subway to Stalingrad.  That'll keep us away from the 
bad weather.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 25 Jan 2009 16:02:00
Message: <497cd348$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:26:11 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 23 Jan 2009 19:39:47 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> I generally say "I'll take you to" ;)
>>
>>Yeah, see, that was our expectation.  When the bill came and they
>>started dividing it up, that's when the debate began.  They ended up
>>paying for the drinks as well as their share.  We were fine paying for
>>my wife's friend (who tagged along) - since she wasn't part of the
>>initial invite. We were gobsmacked, I tell you.  Gobsmacked!
>>
> Welcome to our city. LOL

The funny thing is that she is originally from the UK, but had flown in 
from Switzerland.

And couldn't really be bothered to remember anyone's name through the 
evening, either.

>>> They probably wanted you to buy them a drink in an expensive
>>> nightclub.
>>
>>That wouldn't have surprised me in the least.  What's even funnier is
>>that the person in question attended a conference here in the US a few
>>years later, and acted like nothing happened.  Fortunately, this person
>>spent their time talking to a colleague of mine (whom they had asked "is
>>he gay?" - Seriously, during the infamous dinner, because he's not
>>married) so I was spared having to make polite conversation.  Given the
>>venue and my role, I couldn't have said what I was really thinking.  I
>>like getting paid too much.
>>
>>
> Is he gay, is it catching?
> <shakes head in disbelief>

It was an unbelievable evening.  There were a few times where "put the 
shovel down" was thought very loudly...

>>Now if my own shape would just reflect that by not being so "bean-
>>shaped". ;-)
>>
> Atypical Americans or Brits for that mater. ;-)

LOL, true enough.

>>> Yes, there as quite a few nice bars there. I know a couple. :)
>>
>>The one we went to was upstairs.  That probably doesn't narrow it down
>>much, though.  It had a sort of nightclub feel to it, coloured lights
>>and such.  If I saw a photo, I'd probably recognise it.
> 
> My mission is to go to all the bars in Soho and take photographs :)
> Thank you. ;)

LOL, this one was actually in the train station, but that said, visiting 
all the pubs in the area would give a good flavour. ;-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 26 Jan 2009 05:50:54
Message: <575rn49gpkcpt03l88tl70qaekgidungok@4ax.com>
On 25 Jan 2009 16:02:00 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>The funny thing is that she is originally from the UK, but had flown in 
>from Switzerland.
>

'Nough said.


>It was an unbelievable evening.  There were a few times where "put the 
>shovel down" was thought very loudly...
>

LOL



>> My mission is to go to all the bars in Soho and take photographs :)
>> Thank you. ;)
>
>LOL, this one was actually in the train station, but that said, visiting 
>all the pubs in the area would give a good flavour. ;-)

As long as you don't eat in train stations it is ok ;)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 26 Jan 2009 06:01:12
Message: <1d5rn4hbc39prkpen3rhd2ams6rf9roq7d@4ax.com>
On 25 Jan 2009 15:59:18 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>Um, 

Buzz!

Hesitation!

>what's another word for "Repetition"? ;-)
>

Loser?

>>>>>Pont Marie.
>>>>>
>>>> Since you mentioned Soho, Pigalle.
>>>
>>>Oooh!  Nice move.  You get a bonus point for that. :-)
>>>
>> Thank you very much (for the Aintree Iron)
>
>Do you get to choose your prize? ;-)
>

Afraid not, they are awarded by the chairman.

>>>But now I have to balance it out.....
>>>
>>>Saint-Michel - Notre-Dame
>>>
>> The weather is not nice so "Gare du Nord"
>
>OK, I'll take the subway to Stalingrad.  That'll keep us away from the 
>bad weather.

That puts me in jeopardy of falling foul of "Heisenberg's very uncertainty
principle" by doubling back on the rebound. Using the local "Pascal manoeuvre" I
jaunt to Jardin des Tuileries.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 26 Jan 2009 09:16:24
Message: <497dc5b8@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:57:50 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:
> 
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> Its Alive. Its Aliiiiiiiiive.. Mah hahaa hahaha hahahaha
>>> It's the Frankenthread! :-)
>>>
>>> Jim
>> Mmm, Frankenthreads and Zombie processes.
> 
> And this Frankenthread is multi-threaded at that.  Very sophisticated. ;-)
> 
> Jim

Wouldn't that be fibers, rather than threads? This thread has fibers.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 26 Jan 2009 13:15:45
Message: <497dfdd1$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:01:09 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 25 Jan 2009 15:59:18 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Um,
> 
> Buzz!
> 
> Hesitation!

Dammit!

>>what's another word for "Repetition"? ;-)
>>
> Loser?

No, I'm thinking of another one. ;-)

>>>>>>Pont Marie.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Since you mentioned Soho, Pigalle.
>>>>
>>>>Oooh!  Nice move.  You get a bonus point for that. :-)
>>>>
>>> Thank you very much (for the Aintree Iron)
>>
>>Do you get to choose your prize? ;-)
>>
> Afraid not, they are awarded by the chairman.

Ah, yes.  This week's prize is the latest addition to our new range of 
transcendental furniture - it's an occasional table.

>>>>But now I have to balance it out.....
>>>>
>>>>Saint-Michel - Notre-Dame
>>>>
>>> The weather is not nice so "Gare du Nord"
>>
>>OK, I'll take the subway to Stalingrad.  That'll keep us away from the
>>bad weather.
> 
> That puts me in jeopardy of falling foul of "Heisenberg's very
> uncertainty principle" by doubling back on the rebound. Using the local
> "Pascal manoeuvre" I jaunt to Jardin des Tuileries.

I think it's time to move quickly.....Concorde.  It's a shame they 
retired them.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 26 Jan 2009 13:16:53
Message: <497dfe15$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:14:16 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:57:50 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:
>> 
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>> Its Alive. Its Aliiiiiiiiive.. Mah hahaa hahaha hahahaha
>>>> It's the Frankenthread! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>> Mmm, Frankenthreads and Zombie processes.
>> 
>> And this Frankenthread is multi-threaded at that.  Very sophisticated.
>> ;-)
>> 
>> Jim
> 
> Wouldn't that be fibers, rather than threads? This thread has fibers.

We could break brains and say it's a "multi-fibered thread".  Or a multi-
multi-threaded process by the transitive property.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 26 Jan 2009 13:18:09
Message: <497dfe61$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:50:51 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 25 Jan 2009 16:02:00 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>The funny thing is that she is originally from the UK, but had flown in
>>from Switzerland.
>>
> 'Nough said.

Exactly. :-)

>>It was an unbelievable evening.  There were a few times where "put the
>>shovel down" was thought very loudly...
>>
> LOL

"A night to remember", if you will, but far from the best possible way.

>>> My mission is to go to all the bars in Soho and take photographs :)
>>> Thank you. ;)
>>
>>LOL, this one was actually in the train station, but that said, visiting
>>all the pubs in the area would give a good flavour. ;-)
> 
> As long as you don't eat in train stations it is ok ;)

NOW you tell us!  That explains a lot. ;-)

Jim


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 26 Jan 2009 13:35:28
Message: <497e0270$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:14:16 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:
> 
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:57:50 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>> Its Alive. Its Aliiiiiiiiive.. Mah hahaa hahaha hahahaha
>>>>> It's the Frankenthread! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>> Mmm, Frankenthreads and Zombie processes.
>>> And this Frankenthread is multi-threaded at that.  Very sophisticated.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Jim
>> Wouldn't that be fibers, rather than threads? This thread has fibers.
> 
> We could break brains and say it's a "multi-fibered thread".  Or a multi-
> multi-threaded process by the transitive property.
> 
> Jim

I stand by it being a multi-fibered thread. We need more fiber anyway.
-- 
~Mike


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 26 Jan 2009 15:06:28
Message: <497e17c4$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:33:20 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:

>> We could break brains and say it's a "multi-fibered thread".  Or a
>> multi- multi-threaded process by the transitive property.
>> 
>> Jim
> 
> I stand by it being a multi-fibered thread. We need more fiber anyway.

That's what supplements are for. :-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 30 Jan 2009 03:58:03
Message: <l7g5o41nvn2b598gh68ot0cjje19jpngtp@4ax.com>
On 26 Jan 2009 13:15:45 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>I think it's time to move quickly.....Concorde.  It's a shame they 
>retired them.

Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water ;)

Versailles.

What a carry on with my laptop. It was refusing to boot up 4 times out of 5,
shutting down hard just after the option to enter the bios. So I reinstalled
Vista, would you believe it formatted my HDD not just the vista partition.
Luckily I saved all my Pov files (16 Gigs including meshes) to an external HDD.
Now I'm in the process of loading all the programmes I use. At least I can
winnow out the ones I installed but don't use. I bought a 1 TB external drive so
I won't have to do that again, just restore an image.
Phew!
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 30 Jan 2009 14:06:08
Message: <49834fa0@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:57:37 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 26 Jan 2009 13:15:45 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>I think it's time to move quickly.....Concorde.  It's a shame they
>>retired them.
> 
> Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water ;)

Buzz!  Hesitation! ;-)

> Versailles.

Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it 
doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.

> What a carry on with my laptop. It was refusing to boot up 4 times out
> of 5, shutting down hard just after the option to enter the bios. So I
> reinstalled Vista, would you believe it formatted my HDD not just the
> vista partition. Luckily I saved all my Pov files (16 Gigs including
> meshes) to an external HDD. Now I'm in the process of loading all the
> programmes I use. At least I can winnow out the ones I installed but
> don't use. I bought a 1 TB external drive so I won't have to do that
> again, just restore an image. Phew!

Ugh, sounds like fun.  Or maybe not. ;-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 30 Jan 2009 17:21:35
Message: <97v6o4l1vfb5082o7h4qiik5u6tg9q1jli@4ax.com>
On 30 Jan 2009 14:06:08 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> 
>> Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water ;)
>
>Buzz!  Hesitation! ;-)
>

<hands up>

>> Versailles.
>
>Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it 
>doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.
>

Before we go, Eiffel Tower.

>> What a carry on with my laptop. It was refusing to boot up 4 times out
>> of 5, shutting down hard just after the option to enter the bios. So I
>> reinstalled Vista, would you believe it formatted my HDD not just the
>> vista partition. Luckily I saved all my Pov files (16 Gigs including
>> meshes) to an external HDD. Now I'm in the process of loading all the
>> programmes I use. At least I can winnow out the ones I installed but
>> don't use. I bought a 1 TB external drive so I won't have to do that
>> again, just restore an image. Phew!
>
>Ugh, sounds like fun.  Or maybe not. ;-)

Maybe not, indeed :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06
Message: <4983a002@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:21:08 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2009 14:06:08 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water ;)
>>
>>Buzz!  Hesitation! ;-)
>>
>>
> <hands up>

Is this a robbery? ;-)

>>> Versailles.
>>
>>Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it
>>doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.
>>
> Before we go, Eiffel Tower.

OK, now we've been there, it's time to head back to England.  Let's start 
from Le Havre.

>>> What a carry on with my laptop. It was refusing to boot up 4 times out
>>> of 5, shutting down hard just after the option to enter the bios. So I
>>> reinstalled Vista, would you believe it formatted my HDD not just the
>>> vista partition. Luckily I saved all my Pov files (16 Gigs including
>>> meshes) to an external HDD. Now I'm in the process of loading all the
>>> programmes I use. At least I can winnow out the ones I installed but
>>> don't use. I bought a 1 TB external drive so I won't have to do that
>>> again, just restore an image. Phew!
>>
>>Ugh, sounds like fun.  Or maybe not. ;-)
> 
> Maybe not, indeed :)

Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my 
sympathies.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 1 Feb 2009 03:21:51
Message: <29mao452jnr5rvv8k2a1gjndg68gs9o5bb@4ax.com>
On 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> <hands up>
>
>Is this a robbery? ;-)
>

No, just a donation to charity.


>>>> Versailles.
>>>
>>>Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it
>>>doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.
>>>
>> Before we go, Eiffel Tower.
>
>OK, now we've been there, it's time to head back to England.  Let's start 
>from Le Havre.
>

You force me to go to Portsmouth.


>
>Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my 
>sympathies.

No, I will try a restore of the system later today. You know this year I'll have
worked in computing for 40 years and I've never gotten (:-)) a proper backup to
work.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 1 Feb 2009 13:51:02
Message: <4985ef16@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:21:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> <hands up>
>>
>>Is this a robbery? ;-)
>>
> No, just a donation to charity.

Oh, OK.  Don't forget to get a receipt for your tax return, then.

>>>>> Versailles.
>>>>
>>>>Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it
>>>>doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.
>>>>
>>> Before we go, Eiffel Tower.
>>
>>OK, now we've been there, it's time to head back to England.  Let's
>>start from Le Havre.
>>
> You force me to go to Portsmouth.

Indeed, not a lot of choice there. :-)  Southampton.

>>Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my
>>sympathies.
> 
> No, I will try a restore of the system later today. You know this year
> I'll have worked in computing for 40 years and I've never gotten (:-)) a
> proper backup to work.

LOL, I hope there have been other sysadmins available who have managed a 
backup. :-)

A crashed hard drive, though, is a great way to clear the cruft off the 
drive.  It's just too bad it takes the other stuff away as well.

I was installing X-Plane (a really good flight sim) on my system here, 
and ran out of disk space; installing all the scenery requires 70 GB of 
space (it comes on 6 DL DVDs).  I started digging through the drive and 
found a whole bunch of old junk I no longer needed.

Probably better than a hard drive crash, too.  :-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 2 Feb 2009 16:20:32
Message: <s9keo458h3r3j0aiaibjd6bfubdrsng9ot@4ax.com>
On 1 Feb 2009 13:51:02 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:21:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> 
>>>> <hands up>
>>>
>>>Is this a robbery? ;-)
>>>
>> No, just a donation to charity.
>
>Oh, OK.  Don't forget to get a receipt for your tax return, then.
>

I'll do it online

>> You force me to go to Portsmouth.
>
>Indeed, not a lot of choice there. :-)  Southampton.
>

Well we are running out of time since Samantha has to leave now as she's hosting
a traditional Cockney music and dance night with a pearly king and queen at a
nearby pub. All the locals are saying they can't wait to see her knees up round
the King's Head. So lets head up the M3 to Sunbury-on-Thames.

>>>Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my
>>>sympathies.
>> 
>> No, I will try a restore of the system later today. You know this year
>> I'll have worked in computing for 40 years and I've never gotten (:-)) a
>> proper backup to work.
>
>LOL, I hope there have been other sysadmins available who have managed a 
>backup. :-)
>

Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin? Maintenance
and hardware maintenance at that. :)

There has been several occasions that I've asked for a restore of files from
backups and never had a result. But I managed to do a restore today to a basic
Vista installation without messing any other files up. Unfortunately my laptop
has developed a hardware fault where the black parts of the screen turn a
rastered green when the screen is opened too far. And it was not booting
properly from CD, shutting down with a "clunk". What I don't believe is it still
has a couple of months of warranty left.

>A crashed hard drive, though, is a great way to clear the cruft off the 
>drive.  It's just too bad it takes the other stuff away as well.
>
>I was installing X-Plane (a really good flight sim) on my system here, 
>and ran out of disk space; installing all the scenery requires 70 GB of 
>space (it comes on 6 DL DVDs).  I started digging through the drive and 
>found a whole bunch of old junk I no longer needed.
>
>Probably better than a hard drive crash, too.  :-)
>
A spring cleen is a good idea and sometimes it take a kick to do it ;)
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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 3 Feb 2009 20:03:26
Message: <4988e95e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:19:51 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 1 Feb 2009 13:51:02 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:21:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> <hands up>
>>>>
>>>>Is this a robbery? ;-)
>>>>
>>> No, just a donation to charity.
>>
>>Oh, OK.  Don't forget to get a receipt for your tax return, then.
>>
> I'll do it online

Welcome to the 21st century. ;-)

>>> You force me to go to Portsmouth.
>>
>>Indeed, not a lot of choice there. :-)  Southampton.
>>
> Well we are running out of time since Samantha has to leave now as she's
> hosting a traditional Cockney music and dance night with a pearly king
> and queen at a nearby pub. All the locals are saying they can't wait to
> see her knees up round the King's Head. So lets head up the M3 to
> Sunbury-on-Thames.

Hmmm, interesting but a little unexpected.  And so was your move, at 
that.  

In the same general direction, Richmond.

>>>>Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my
>>>>sympathies.
>>> 
>>> No, I will try a restore of the system later today. You know this year
>>> I'll have worked in computing for 40 years and I've never gotten (:-))
>>> a proper backup to work.
>>
>>LOL, I hope there have been other sysadmins available who have managed a
>>backup. :-)
>>
>>
> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)

Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to the 
software guys. ;-)

> There has been several occasions that I've asked for a restore of files
> from backups and never had a result. But I managed to do a restore today
> to a basic Vista installation without messing any other files up.
> Unfortunately my laptop has developed a hardware fault where the black
> parts of the screen turn a rastered green when the screen is opened too
> far. And it was not booting properly from CD, shutting down with a
> "clunk". What I don't believe is it still has a couple of months of
> warranty left.

You mean it developed the problem before the warranty ran out?  I didn't 
think that ever happened. ;-)

>>A crashed hard drive, though, is a great way to clear the cruft off the
>>drive.  It's just too bad it takes the other stuff away as well.
>>
>>I was installing X-Plane (a really good flight sim) on my system here,
>>and ran out of disk space; installing all the scenery requires 70 GB of
>>space (it comes on 6 DL DVDs).  I started digging through the drive and
>>found a whole bunch of old junk I no longer needed.
>>
>>Probably better than a hard drive crash, too.  :-)
>>
> A spring cleen is a good idea and sometimes it take a kick to do it ;)

LOL.  That it is; sadly, the latest video driver borked something up, and 
the sim wouldn't run anymore.  Fortunately, I was able to downgrade the 
driver to the one that actually works, as opposed to NVidia's idea of a 
"working new driver" that is in fact braindead and broken.  Nice of them 
to test it.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 4 Feb 2009 10:08:59
Message: <26ajo4hol040i2qrnsdhmugfvh9np9vrtb@4ax.com>
On 3 Feb 2009 20:03:26 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>Welcome to the 21st century. ;-)
>

We got there 7 hours before you did :)

>>>> You force me to go to Portsmouth.
>>>
>>>Indeed, not a lot of choice there. :-)  Southampton.
>>>
>> Well we are running out of time since Samantha has to leave now as she's
>> hosting a traditional Cockney music and dance night with a pearly king
>> and queen at a nearby pub. All the locals are saying they can't wait to
>> see her knees up round the King's Head. So lets head up the M3 to
>> Sunbury-on-Thames.
>
>Hmmm, interesting but a little unexpected.  And so was your move, at 
>that.  
>
>In the same general direction, Richmond.
>

Ah! The lass of Richmond Hill. OK wrong Richmond but I invoke the London
Keellie's option.

I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in Chiswick.

>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>
>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to the 
>software guys. ;-)
>

No option, generally

>> There has been several occasions that I've asked for a restore of files
>> from backups and never had a result. But I managed to do a restore today
>> to a basic Vista installation without messing any other files up.
>> Unfortunately my laptop has developed a hardware fault where the black
>> parts of the screen turn a rastered green when the screen is opened too
>> far. And it was not booting properly from CD, shutting down with a
>> "clunk". What I don't believe is it still has a couple of months of
>> warranty left.
>
>You mean it developed the problem before the warranty ran out?  I didn't 
>think that ever happened. ;-)
>

I know, the toast landed butter side up. A miracle. A miracle.  :)


>> A spring cleen is a good idea and sometimes it take a kick to do it ;)
>
>LOL.  That it is; sadly, the latest video driver borked something up, and 
>the sim wouldn't run anymore.  Fortunately, I was able to downgrade the 
>driver to the one that actually works, as opposed to NVidia's idea of a 
>"working new driver" that is in fact braindead and broken.  Nice of them 
>to test it.

Computer, who would have them? ;)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 4 Feb 2009 12:42:09
Message: <4989d371@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:08:47 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>> Well we are running out of time since Samantha has to leave now as
>>> she's hosting a traditional Cockney music and dance night with a
>>> pearly king and queen at a nearby pub. All the locals are saying they
>>> can't wait to see her knees up round the King's Head. So lets head up
>>> the M3 to Sunbury-on-Thames.
>>
>>Hmmm, interesting but a little unexpected.  And so was your move, at
>>that.
>>
>>In the same general direction, Richmond.
>>
> Ah! The lass of Richmond Hill. OK wrong Richmond but I invoke the London
> Keellie's option.

I was going to say, Richmond Hill is in Ontario, Canada (I have a friend 
who lives there, coincidentally) - a suburb of Toronto.

> I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in Chiswick.

Oooh!  Cheeky move, that.  I'll switch to the Picadilly line and pause 
for tea and biscuits in Hammersmith.  Obviously, though, I won't get 
either of those in the actual station.  I'll go to Frank's for that, just 
round the corner from the station.

>>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>>
>>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to the
>>software guys. ;-)
>>
> No option, generally

Ah, so either no backups that work or no backups that work?  I guess that 
isn't really an option. ;-)

>>> There has been several occasions that I've asked for a restore of
>>> files from backups and never had a result. But I managed to do a
>>> restore today to a basic Vista installation without messing any other
>>> files up. Unfortunately my laptop has developed a hardware fault where
>>> the black parts of the screen turn a rastered green when the screen is
>>> opened too far. And it was not booting properly from CD, shutting down
>>> with a "clunk". What I don't believe is it still has a couple of
>>> months of warranty left.
>>
>>You mean it developed the problem before the warranty ran out?  I didn't
>>think that ever happened. ;-)
>>
>>
> I know, the toast landed butter side up. A miracle. A miracle.  :)
> 
> 
>>> A spring cleen is a good idea and sometimes it take a kick to do it ;)
>>
>>LOL.  That it is; sadly, the latest video driver borked something up,
>>and the sim wouldn't run anymore.  Fortunately, I was able to downgrade
>>the driver to the one that actually works, as opposed to NVidia's idea
>>of a "working new driver" that is in fact braindead and broken.  Nice of
>>them to test it.
> 
> Computer, who would have them? ;)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 4 Feb 2009 17:01:46
Message: <us3ko45jik10m15ss2mg502kkfoj5k18ba@4ax.com>
On 4 Feb 2009 12:42:09 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> Ah! The lass of Richmond Hill. OK wrong Richmond but I invoke the London
>> Keellie's option.
>
>I was going to say, Richmond Hill is in Ontario, Canada (I have a friend 
>who lives there, coincidentally) - a suburb of Toronto.
>

Yorkshire!

>> I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in Chiswick.
>
>Oooh!  Cheeky move, that.  I'll switch to the Picadilly line and pause 
>for tea and biscuits in Hammersmith.  Obviously, though, I won't get 
>either of those in the actual station.  I'll go to Frank's for that, just 
>round the corner from the station.
>

Not true now the broadway has been redeveloped.

Picadilly line to Kings X

>>>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>>>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>>>
>>>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to the
>>>software guys. ;-)
>>>
>> No option, generally
>
>Ah, so either no backups that work or no backups that work?  I guess that 
>isn't really an option. ;-)

That's why I take copies on a flashdrive. B*gg*r the version control :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 4 Feb 2009 21:43:10
Message: <498a523e$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:01:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 4 Feb 2009 12:42:09 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> Ah! The lass of Richmond Hill. OK wrong Richmond but I invoke the
>>> London Keellie's option.
>>
>>I was going to say, Richmond Hill is in Ontario, Canada (I have a friend
>>who lives there, coincidentally) - a suburb of Toronto.
>>
> Yorkshire!

Nah, Ontario.  Say 'hi' to Peter for me while you're there, and scritch 
Tasha. ;-)

>>> I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in
>>> Chiswick.
>>
>>Oooh!  Cheeky move, that.  I'll switch to the Picadilly line and pause
>>for tea and biscuits in Hammersmith.  Obviously, though, I won't get
>>either of those in the actual station.  I'll go to Frank's for that,
>>just round the corner from the station.
>>
> Not true now the broadway has been redeveloped.

You'll note that I didn't say you can't get them in the station, but food 
and drink (and food particularly) should be bought outside the station - 
didn't you say something to that effect?

> Picadilly line to Kings X

Logically, the next stop is Camden Road.

>>>>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>>>>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>>>>
>>>>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to
>>>>the software guys. ;-)
>>>>
>>> No option, generally
>>
>>Ah, so either no backups that work or no backups that work?  I guess
>>that isn't really an option. ;-)
> 
> That's why I take copies on a flashdrive. B*gg*r the version control :)

Hehehehehehe

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 5 Feb 2009 06:39:17
Message: <lqjlo4paquvuk9v7u9mlme35dt7aav15r8@4ax.com>
On 4 Feb 2009 21:43:10 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>>>I was going to say, Richmond Hill is in Ontario, Canada (I have a friend
>>>who lives there, coincidentally) - a suburb of Toronto.
>>>
>> Yorkshire!
>
>Nah, Ontario.  Say 'hi' to Peter for me while you're there, and scritch 
>Tasha. ;-)
>

Richmond, North Yorkshire is the Mother of all Richmonds throughout the world.
There are 57 altogether. The word Richmond comes from the Norman Riche-Mont
meaning Strong Hill.


>>>> I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in
>>>> Chiswick.
>>>
>>>Oooh!  Cheeky move, that.  I'll switch to the Picadilly line and pause
>>>for tea and biscuits in Hammersmith.  Obviously, though, I won't get
>>>either of those in the actual station.  I'll go to Frank's for that,
>>>just round the corner from the station.
>>>
>> Not true now the broadway has been redeveloped.
>
>You'll note that I didn't say you can't get them in the station, but food 
>and drink (and food particularly) should be bought outside the station - 
>didn't you say something to that effect?
>
>> Picadilly line to Kings X
>
>Logically, the next stop is Camden Road.
>

Ha! Ha! Morningtown Crescent.

>>>>>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>>>>>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to
>>>>>the software guys. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>> No option, generally
>>>
>>>Ah, so either no backups that work or no backups that work?  I guess
>>>that isn't really an option. ;-)
>> 
>> That's why I take copies on a flashdrive. B*gg*r the version control :)
>
>Hehehehehehe

Hehe indeed
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 5 Feb 2009 11:30:25
Message: <498b1421@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:38:55 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 4 Feb 2009 21:43:10 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>>>I was going to say, Richmond Hill is in Ontario, Canada (I have a
>>>>friend who lives there, coincidentally) - a suburb of Toronto.
>>>>
>>> Yorkshire!
>>
>>Nah, Ontario.  Say 'hi' to Peter for me while you're there, and scritch
>>Tasha. ;-)
>>
>>
> Richmond, North Yorkshire is the Mother of all Richmonds throughout the
> world. There are 57 altogether. The word Richmond comes from the Norman
> Riche-Mont meaning Strong Hill.

That sounds vaguely French... ;-)

I'll still take the one in Ontario. :-)

>>>>> I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in
>>>>> Chiswick.
>>>>
>>>>Oooh!  Cheeky move, that.  I'll switch to the Picadilly line and pause
>>>>for tea and biscuits in Hammersmith.  Obviously, though, I won't get
>>>>either of those in the actual station.  I'll go to Frank's for that,
>>>>just round the corner from the station.
>>>>
>>> Not true now the broadway has been redeveloped.
>>
>>You'll note that I didn't say you can't get them in the station, but
>>food and drink (and food particularly) should be bought outside the
>>station - didn't you say something to that effect?
>>
>>> Picadilly line to Kings X
>>
>>Logically, the next stop is Camden Road.
>>
> Ha! Ha! Morningtown Crescent.

No, no, no, no, no.....Remember that we were playing under the new 
revised standard rules, which don't allow U-turns.  Which rule lets you 
get to MC? ;-)

>>>>>>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a
>>>>>>> sysadmin? Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to
>>>>>>the software guys. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>> No option, generally
>>>>
>>>>Ah, so either no backups that work or no backups that work?  I guess
>>>>that isn't really an option. ;-)
>>> 
>>> That's why I take copies on a flashdrive. B*gg*r the version control
>>> :)
>>
>>Hehehehehehe
> 
> Hehe indeed

There are days I feel the same way.....It's amazing how much space gets 
freed up when you don't keep old versions of VMware (for example).

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 7 Feb 2009 05:27:37
Message: <r5oqo498s2a6bghofc2p2sdtq5i8p814ef@4ax.com>
On 5 Feb 2009 11:30:25 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> Richmond, North Yorkshire is the Mother of all Richmonds throughout the
>> world. There are 57 altogether. The word Richmond comes from the Norman
>> Riche-Mont meaning Strong Hill.
>
>That sounds vaguely French... ;-)
>

We don't like to remind the English that the Normans were French and ruled them.
:)

>I'll still take the one in Ontario. :-)
>

Welcome to it ;)

>>>Logically, the next stop is Camden Road.
>>>
>> Ha! Ha! Morningtown Crescent.
>
>No, no, no, no, no.....Remember that we were playing under the new 
>revised standard rules, which don't allow U-turns.  Which rule lets you 
>get to MC? ;-)
>

The rule of the 253 bus towards Euston.

>There are days I feel the same way.....It's amazing how much space gets 
>freed up when you don't keep old versions of VMware (for example).

I don't use VMware myself but I know what you mean. With me it is oodles of
downloaded s/ware that I disregard after one play.
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 7 Feb 2009 05:40:47
Message: <498d652f$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:27:12 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 5 Feb 2009 11:30:25 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> Richmond, North Yorkshire is the Mother of all Richmonds throughout
>>> the world. There are 57 altogether. The word Richmond comes from the
>>> Norman Riche-Mont meaning Strong Hill.
>>
>>That sounds vaguely French... ;-)
>>
> We don't like to remind the English that the Normans were French and
> ruled them. :)

LOL, that's right, you're actually from Scotland IIRC. ;-)

>>I'll still take the one in Ontario. :-)
>>
> Welcome to it ;)

BTDT.  Actually, my buddy there took me up to the CN Tower - one of the 
tallest structures of its type in the world (in fact, the largest IIRC).  
I'm sure the view was amazing during the day, but we got up there after 
dark, so really all I could see were some city lights and a big black 
space where the lake is.

>>>>Logically, the next stop is Camden Road.
>>>>
>>> Ha! Ha! Morningtown Crescent.
>>
>>No, no, no, no, no.....Remember that we were playing under the new
>>revised standard rules, which don't allow U-turns.  Which rule lets you
>>get to MC? ;-)
>>
> The rule of the 253 bus towards Euston.

Well, ordinarily yes, but when Pratchforth's Restriction is in play (as 
it obviously would be when U-Turns aren't allowed (see pp 172-174 & page 
227 of Stovold's rules)), all direct routes between those two points are 
in fact blocked.  You don't think I'd make that move to Camden Road if 
that restriction weren't in place, do you? ;-)

>>There are days I feel the same way.....It's amazing how much space gets
>>freed up when you don't keep old versions of VMware (for example).
> 
> I don't use VMware myself but I know what you mean. With me it is oodles
> of downloaded s/ware that I disregard after one play.

That also was a factor in my recent hard drive purge as well - in fact, 
it was a fair amount of OSS source code that I'd unpacked and built and 
then left the directories (with code, object files, and executables) all 
in my downloads directory.  That's a good way to waste space. :-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 9 Feb 2009 04:20:05
Message: <9nsvo4lam5h2pf43nd22lqidr1nn0k20fj@4ax.com>
On 7 Feb 2009 05:40:47 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>>>That sounds vaguely French... ;-)
>>>
>> We don't like to remind the English that the Normans were French and
>> ruled them. :)
>
>LOL, that's right, you're actually from Scotland IIRC. ;-)
>

Aye, Mon.

>>>I'll still take the one in Ontario. :-)
>>>
>> Welcome to it ;)
>
>BTDT.  Actually, my buddy there took me up to the CN Tower - one of the 
>tallest structures of its type in the world (in fact, the largest IIRC).  
>I'm sure the view was amazing during the day, but we got up there after 
>dark, so really all I could see were some city lights and a big black 
>space where the lake is.
>

But still a sight, I imagine.

>>>>>Logically, the next stop is Camden Road.
>>>>>
>>>> Ha! Ha! Morningtown Crescent.
>>>
>>>No, no, no, no, no.....Remember that we were playing under the new
>>>revised standard rules, which don't allow U-turns.  Which rule lets you
>>>get to MC? ;-)
>>>
>> The rule of the 253 bus towards Euston.
>
>Well, ordinarily yes, but when Pratchforth's Restriction is in play (as 
>it obviously would be when U-Turns aren't allowed (see pp 172-174 & page 
>227 of Stovold's rules)), all direct routes between those two points are 
>in fact blocked.  You don't think I'd make that move to Camden Road if 
>that restriction weren't in place, do you? ;-)
>

Flick, flick, flick. Right then.

Kentish Town.


>>>There are days I feel the same way.....It's amazing how much space gets
>>>freed up when you don't keep old versions of VMware (for example).
>> 
>> I don't use VMware myself but I know what you mean. With me it is oodles
>> of downloaded s/ware that I disregard after one play.
>
>That also was a factor in my recent hard drive purge as well - in fact, 
>it was a fair amount of OSS source code that I'd unpacked and built and 
>then left the directories (with code, object files, and executables) all 
>in my downloads directory.  That's a good way to waste space. :-)

With me it tends to be meshes and image maps that are duplicated all over my
HDD. And versions of Pov animations, modeller files, Pov files and mpegs.
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 9 Feb 2009 21:53:34
Message: <4990ec2e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:19:45 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 7 Feb 2009 05:40:47 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>>>That sounds vaguely French... ;-)
>>>>
>>> We don't like to remind the English that the Normans were French and
>>> ruled them. :)
>>
>>LOL, that's right, you're actually from Scotland IIRC. ;-)
>>
> Aye, Mon.

Scottish-Jamaican, apparently? ;-)

>>>>I'll still take the one in Ontario. :-)
>>>>
>>> Welcome to it ;)
>>
>>BTDT.  Actually, my buddy there took me up to the CN Tower - one of the
>>tallest structures of its type in the world (in fact, the largest IIRC).
>>I'm sure the view was amazing during the day, but we got up there after
>>dark, so really all I could see were some city lights and a big black
>>space where the lake is.
>>
> But still a sight, I imagine.

Oh, yes, very much so.  The ride on the lift was interesting, because you 
can look out on the world as you go up.  Then there's the observation 
deck - you can stand on a glass floor (not ordinary glass, natch) and 
look straight down 1500+ feet.

>>>>>>Logically, the next stop is Camden Road.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ha! Ha! Morningtown Crescent.
>>>>
>>>>No, no, no, no, no.....Remember that we were playing under the new
>>>>revised standard rules, which don't allow U-turns.  Which rule lets
>>>>you get to MC? ;-)
>>>>
>>> The rule of the 253 bus towards Euston.
>>
>>Well, ordinarily yes, but when Pratchforth's Restriction is in play (as
>>it obviously would be when U-Turns aren't allowed (see pp 172-174 & page
>>227 of Stovold's rules)), all direct routes between those two points are
>>in fact blocked.  You don't think I'd make that move to Camden Road if
>>that restriction weren't in place, do you? ;-)
>>
> Flick, flick, flick. Right then.
> 
> Kentish Town.

That's more like it.  :-)  We wouldn't want to come to a premature end, 
after all. ;-)

Tufnell Park.

>>>>There are days I feel the same way.....It's amazing how much space
>>>>gets freed up when you don't keep old versions of VMware (for
>>>>example).
>>> 
>>> I don't use VMware myself but I know what you mean. With me it is
>>> oodles of downloaded s/ware that I disregard after one play.
>>
>>That also was a factor in my recent hard drive purge as well - in fact,
>>it was a fair amount of OSS source code that I'd unpacked and built and
>>then left the directories (with code, object files, and executables) all
>>in my downloads directory.  That's a good way to waste space. :-)
> 
> With me it tends to be meshes and image maps that are duplicated all
> over my HDD. And versions of Pov animations, modeller files, Pov files
> and mpegs.

I could see that.  Meshes can get quite big, at that. :)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 11 Feb 2009 12:13:35
Message: <5c16p4h3ahqbpurl9l4fb5umdbk5ad6msp@4ax.com>
On 9 Feb 2009 21:53:34 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>>>LOL, that's right, you're actually from Scotland IIRC. ;-)
>>>
>> Aye, Mon.
>
>Scottish-Jamaican, apparently? ;-)
>

There are strong links between Scotland and Jamaica, both being points on the
slave triangle. During my time in Kingston I saw lots of Scottish place names
and my wife was asked by a musing cab driver why that could be. There followed a
moments silence and a "Respect, man" LOL


>> Flick, flick, flick. Right then.
>> 
>> Kentish Town.
>
>That's more like it.  :-)  We wouldn't want to come to a premature end, 
>after all. ;-)
>
>Tufnell Park.
>

Interesting as I'm going to look a flat in near there tomorrow so I'll stay on
the northern line and get off at Highgate


>
>I could see that.  Meshes can get quite big, at that. :)

Especially when you have lots of animated series. Thank the Wee Man they
compress well :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 11 Feb 2009 14:39:54
Message: <4993298a@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:13:24 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 9 Feb 2009 21:53:34 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>>>LOL, that's right, you're actually from Scotland IIRC. ;-)
>>>>
>>> Aye, Mon.
>>
>>Scottish-Jamaican, apparently? ;-)
>>
> There are strong links between Scotland and Jamaica, both being points
> on the slave triangle. During my time in Kingston I saw lots of Scottish
> place names and my wife was asked by a musing cab driver why that could
> be. There followed a moments silence and a "Respect, man" LOL

Interesting, I didn't know about the ties there.  I have learned a thing 
today! ;-)

>>> Flick, flick, flick. Right then.
>>> 
>>> Kentish Town.
>>
>>That's more like it.  :-)  We wouldn't want to come to a premature end,
>>after all. ;-)
>>
>>Tufnell Park.
>>
> Interesting as I'm going to look a flat in near there tomorrow so I'll
> stay on the northern line and get off at Highgate

Well, then I'll stick with the northern line, and in honour of the fallen 
arch at Arches National Monument in southern Utah, I'll get off at 
Archway.

>>I could see that.  Meshes can get quite big, at that. :)
> 
> Especially when you have lots of animated series. Thank the Wee Man they
> compress well :)

Indeed.  Text file compression is useful and very good.  Had to do that 
yesterday - first time in 6 years I've actually done work on a production 
system, pity it was diagnosis and troubleshooting.  I remember the late 
nights now, didn't get home until 2300.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 11 Feb 2009 15:36:26
Message: <3hd6p4hpse3o23l2j0bciprtf2vtjjhsrf@4ax.com>
On 11 Feb 2009 14:39:54 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:13:24 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 9 Feb 2009 21:53:34 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>LOL, that's right, you're actually from Scotland IIRC. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>> Aye, Mon.
>>>
>>>Scottish-Jamaican, apparently? ;-)
>>>
>> There are strong links between Scotland and Jamaica, both being points
>> on the slave triangle. During my time in Kingston I saw lots of Scottish
>> place names and my wife was asked by a musing cab driver why that could
>> be. There followed a moments silence and a "Respect, man" LOL
>
>Interesting, I didn't know about the ties there.  I have learned a thing 
>today! ;-)
>

I got into an argument once about the origin of the saying "Mony a mickle maks a
muckle" that I heard on the local radio. 
"Scots" said I.
"Jamaican" said he. 
"Scots" said I.
"Jamaican" said he. 
"Let's have a spliff" quoth we.

>>>> Flick, flick, flick. Right then.
>>>> 
>>>> Kentish Town.
>>>
>>>That's more like it.  :-)  We wouldn't want to come to a premature end,
>>>after all. ;-)
>>>
>>>Tufnell Park.
>>>
>> Interesting as I'm going to look a flat in near there tomorrow so I'll
>> stay on the northern line and get off at Highgate
>
>Well, then I'll stick with the northern line, and in honour of the fallen 
>arch at Arches National Monument in southern Utah, I'll get off at 
>Archway.
>

On 7 Feb 2009 05:40:47 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

Well, ordinarily yes, but when Pratchforth's Restriction is in play (as it
obviously would be when U-Turns aren't allowed (see pp 172-174 & page 227 of
Stovold's rules)), all direct routes between those two points are in fact
blocked.

O_o

>>>I could see that.  Meshes can get quite big, at that. :)
>> 
>> Especially when you have lots of animated series. Thank the Wee Man they
>> compress well :)
>
>Indeed.  Text file compression is useful and very good.  Had to do that 
>yesterday - first time in 6 years I've actually done work on a production 
>system, pity it was diagnosis and troubleshooting.  I remember the late 
>nights now, didn't get home until 2300.
>

OMG! Work on a production system. Scarey :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 11 Feb 2009 17:56:29
Message: <4993579d$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:36:20 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>Interesting, I didn't know about the ties there.  I have learned a thing
>>today! ;-)
>>
> I got into an argument once about the origin of the saying "Mony a
> mickle maks a muckle" that I heard on the local radio. "Scots" said I.
> "Jamaican" said he.
> "Scots" said I.
> "Jamaican" said he.
> "Let's have a spliff" quoth we.

LOL!

>>Well, then I'll stick with the northern line, and in honour of the
>>fallen arch at Arches National Monument in southern Utah, I'll get off
>>at Archway.
>>
> On 7 Feb 2009 05:40:47 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
> Well, ordinarily yes, but when Pratchforth's Restriction is in play (as
> it obviously would be when U-Turns aren't allowed (see pp 172-174 & page
> 227 of Stovold's rules)), all direct routes between those two points are
> in fact blocked.
> 
> O_o

Damn.  I was hoping you wouldn't notice.  Can't blame a guy for 
trying. ;-)

Then logically, if I want to stick to the Northern line, I guess it has 
to be East Finchley.

>>>>I could see that.  Meshes can get quite big, at that. :)
>>> 
>>> Especially when you have lots of animated series. Thank the Wee Man
>>> they compress well :)
>>
>>Indeed.  Text file compression is useful and very good.  Had to do that
>>yesterday - first time in 6 years I've actually done work on a
>>production system, pity it was diagnosis and troubleshooting.  I
>>remember the late nights now, didn't get home until 2300.
>>
> OMG! Work on a production system. Scarey :)

Well, not really - it was work on a part of the system I know inside and 
out in my sleep.  It just took some time is all.

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 11 Feb 2009 18:40:54
Message: <49936206$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message 
news:5c16p4h3ahqbpurl9l4fb5umdbk5ad6msp@4ax.com...

> There are strong links between Scotland and Jamaica, both being points on 
> the
> slave triangle. During my time in Kingston I saw lots of Scottish place 
> names
> and my wife was asked by a musing cab driver why that could be. There 
> followed a
> moments silence and a "Respect, man" LOL

    Heh...  :)


     ~Steve~



> Regards
>     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 12 Feb 2009 06:34:08
Message: <l528p4hbq7eu4gd5rocc1pr0663ak80k1d@4ax.com>
On 11 Feb 2009 17:56:29 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> On 7 Feb 2009 05:40:47 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, ordinarily yes, but when Pratchforth's Restriction is in play (as
>> it obviously would be when U-Turns aren't allowed (see pp 172-174 & page
>> 227 of Stovold's rules)), all direct routes between those two points are
>> in fact blocked.
>> 
>> O_o
>
>Damn.  I was hoping you wouldn't notice.  Can't blame a guy for 
>trying. ;-)
>
>Then logically, if I want to stick to the Northern line, I guess it has 
>to be East Finchley.
>

We are getting closer to Watford and "here by tygers" 

Golders Green



>> OMG! Work on a production system. Scarey :)
>
>Well, not really - it was work on a part of the system I know inside and 
>out in my sleep.  It just took some time is all.

I know ;)
But when you (me) work in development systems 99.99% of the time "Prod" is the
big black beast :)
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 12 Feb 2009 06:36:16
Message: <2d28p4dpagds0mn17t7a14arfhv05skgt5@4ax.com>
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:40:50 -0000, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>
>"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message 
>news:5c16p4h3ahqbpurl9l4fb5umdbk5ad6msp@4ax.com...
>
>> There are strong links between Scotland and Jamaica, both being points on 
>> the
>> slave triangle. During my time in Kingston I saw lots of Scottish place 
>> names
>> and my wife was asked by a musing cab driver why that could be. There 
>> followed a
>> moments silence and a "Respect, man" LOL
>
>    Heh...  :)
>
>
The most uncomfortable phrase I often heard was "White Slave Masters" <Gulp>
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 12 Feb 2009 14:42:33
Message: <49947ba9$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:34:03 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>Then logically, if I want to stick to the Northern line, I guess it has
>>to be East Finchley.
>>
> We are getting closer to Watford and "here by tygers"
> 
> Golders Green

Burnt Oak.  We're running out of Northern Line, will be interested to see 
where you go from there. :-)

>>> OMG! Work on a production system. Scarey :)
>>
>>Well, not really - it was work on a part of the system I know inside and
>>out in my sleep.  It just took some time is all.
> 
> I know ;)

It was actually a lot of fun, got to use tools I was trained on but only 
rarely used at all (of course, low-level database editing is ugly and 
there was one misstep, not a critical one, but caused by the fact that 
remote controlling a remote control session by remote control (yes, three 
redirections) caused me to type CTRL-U and for it to be repeated about 50 
times on the target system.  Whoops.

> But when you (me) work in development systems 99.99% of the time "Prod"
> is the big black beast :)

Yeah, there is that. :-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 12 Feb 2009 16:30:22
Message: <1359p45qb5hht9eo3lo5f289e5qjvcndsv@4ax.com>
On 12 Feb 2009 14:42:33 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:34:03 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>Then logically, if I want to stick to the Northern line, I guess it has
>>>to be East Finchley.
>>>
>> We are getting closer to Watford and "here by tygers"
>> 
>> Golders Green
>
>Burnt Oak.  We're running out of Northern Line, will be interested to see 
>where you go from there. :-)
>

I'll take the HA8 to Stanmore and see if the Harrow Computer Club is having a
meeting. It is the oldest Computer Club in England and I'm one of the youngest
members :)

>>>> OMG! Work on a production system. Scarey :)
>>>
>>>Well, not really - it was work on a part of the system I know inside and
>>>out in my sleep.  It just took some time is all.
>> 
>> I know ;)
>
>It was actually a lot of fun, got to use tools I was trained on but only 
>rarely used at all (of course, low-level database editing is ugly and 
>there was one misstep, not a critical one, but caused by the fact that 
>remote controlling a remote control session by remote control (yes, three 
>redirections) caused me to type CTRL-U and for it to be repeated about 50 
>times on the target system.  Whoops.
>

Rather you than me.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 12 Feb 2009 17:49:19
Message: <4994a76f@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:30:16 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>Burnt Oak.  We're running out of Northern Line, will be interested to
>>see where you go from there. :-)
>>
> I'll take the HA8 to Stanmore and see if the Harrow Computer Club is
> having a meeting. It is the oldest Computer Club in England and I'm one
> of the youngest members :)

Hmmm, interesting move, and somewhat unexpected, largely because I'm 
unfamiliar with the bus routes. :-)

I think I should start heading to GLLUG, then - looks like the 
Metropolitan line gets me closest, so I need to switch over at our next 
stop, which would be Wembley Park.

>>>>> OMG! Work on a production system. Scarey :)
>>>>
>>>>Well, not really - it was work on a part of the system I know inside
>>>>and out in my sleep.  It just took some time is all.
>>> 
>>> I know ;)
>>
>>It was actually a lot of fun, got to use tools I was trained on but only
>>rarely used at all (of course, low-level database editing is ugly and
>>there was one misstep, not a critical one, but caused by the fact that
>>remote controlling a remote control session by remote control (yes,
>>three redirections) caused me to type CTRL-U and for it to be repeated
>>about 50 times on the target system.  Whoops.
>>
> Rather you than me.

Funny, that's what the guys in Worldwide Support said.  Fortunately the 
repair tool seems to have undone the deletion of the supervisor 
account. :)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 13 Feb 2009 11:53:22
Message: <p09bp4ha302m664op5ohi9fi9j461psapn@4ax.com>
On 12 Feb 2009 17:49:19 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:30:16 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>Burnt Oak.  We're running out of Northern Line, will be interested to
>>>see where you go from there. :-)
>>>
>> I'll take the HA8 to Stanmore and see if the Harrow Computer Club is
>> having a meeting. It is the oldest Computer Club in England and I'm one
>> of the youngest members :)
>
>Hmmm, interesting move, and somewhat unexpected, largely because I'm 
>unfamiliar with the bus routes. :-)
>
>I think I should start heading to GLLUG, then - looks like the 
>Metropolitan line gets me closest, so I need to switch over at our next 
>stop, which would be Wembley Park.
>

What! No Flame Wars here :)

Let's visit the dummies at Madame Tussauds.
Baker St.


> the deletion of the supervisor account. :)
>
???

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 13 Feb 2009 13:16:22
Message: <4995b8f6$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:53:14 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>I think I should start heading to GLLUG, then - looks like the
>>Metropolitan line gets me closest, so I need to switch over at our next
>>stop, which would be Wembley Park.
>>
> What! No Flame Wars here :)

Who said anything about a flame war?  We're just going from "oldest 
group" to "newest group" - opposite ends of the same spectrum. ;-)

> Let's visit the dummies at Madame Tussauds. Baker St.

Nice, I meant to get there the last time we visited.  We might visit this 
year, still working out the details.

Mill Hill East - gotta avoid that retrograde inversion.

>> the deletion of the supervisor account. :)
>>
> ???

NetWare server.  There's an account even on current versions that's a 
throwback to the versions from the early 90's.  It's a hard-coded account 
that normally can't be deleted, but the tool I was using (an internal 
support tool) can whack anything out of the database.

Thing is, when using the internal tool, CTRL-U removes the entry in the 
database that you're looking at, and it reverts to what's called the 
"Entry ID" or "EID" with the lowest value:  The SUPERVISOR account 
(EID=1).

The tool does have a prompt to "press any key to continue", but it  
accepts CTRL-U as one of the "any keys".

So if you end up pressing CTRL-U and it repeats for some reason, you end 
up whacking SUPERVISOR.

It's not used for anything important any more, but it still was a 
surprise.  I was even more surprised that the database repair tool fixed 
it (I didn't think it would do that).

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 14 Feb 2009 14:38:41
Message: <7b7ep4p4cgouh8sn9bhpdp1g1ig1ffqsku@4ax.com>
On 13 Feb 2009 13:16:22 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>Mill Hill East - gotta avoid that retrograde inversion.
>

Almost boxed in. So I'll skip to Cricklewood.


>>> the deletion of the supervisor account. :)
>>>
>> ???
>
>NetWare server.  

> ...

>The tool does have a prompt to "press any key to continue", but it  
>accepts CTRL-U as one of the "any keys".
>
>So if you end up pressing CTRL-U and it repeats for some reason, you end 
>up whacking SUPERVISOR.
>

That's an Oops! :)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 14 Feb 2009 15:00:20
Message: <499722d4$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:38:22 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 13 Feb 2009 13:16:22 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>Mill Hill East - gotta avoid that retrograde inversion.
>>
> Almost boxed in. So I'll skip to Cricklewood.

Well, if you want to go to the overground, I guess that'll do the trick.  
In which case, I must continue to Finchley Road & Frognal‎ just because 
anything with "Frog" in it must be used at least once.

>>>> the deletion of the supervisor account. :)
>>>>
>>> ???
>>
>>NetWare server.
> 
>> ...
> 
>>The tool does have a prompt to "press any key to continue", but it
>>accepts CTRL-U as one of the "any keys".
>>
>>So if you end up pressing CTRL-U and it repeats for some reason, you end
>>up whacking SUPERVISOR.
>>
> That's an Oops! :)

Major oops. ;-)

Not that I couldn't have recreated it by hand (being trained on the 
database editor has its uses), but the system fixed it on its own, much 
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 15 Feb 2009 04:11:28
Message: <atmfp41d8spc55okqq980dtrb6ibr9k7t4@4ax.com>
On 14 Feb 2009 15:00:20 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>Well, if you want to go to the overground, I guess that'll do the trick.  
>In which case, I must continue to Finchley Road & Frognal? just because 
>anything with "Frog" in it must be used at least once.

Well if you like kissing amphibians we could go to the Frog & Forget-Me-Not,
Clapham Common but that would mean crossing the river. So lets oft to The Frog
Inn the Bedford, Fulham.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 15 Feb 2009 13:07:12
Message: <499859d0@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 09:11:05 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 14 Feb 2009 15:00:20 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Well, if you want to go to the overground, I guess that'll do the trick.
>>In which case, I must continue to Finchley Road & Frognal? just because
>>anything with "Frog" in it must be used at least once.
> 
> Well if you like kissing amphibians we could go to the Frog &
> Forget-Me-Not, Clapham Common but that would mean crossing the river. So
> lets oft to The Frog Inn the Bedford, Fulham.

As long as we've got separate rooms. ;-)

All the talk about fish & chips means now I'm hungry; our local chip shop 
was called "Picadilly Fish & Chips", so I think heading up the District 
line to the Picadilly line is a good option, so let's head to Earl's 
Court to switch lines.

Jim


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