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Mike Raiford wrote:
>> 2. What actually *is* Slashdot? I keep hearing about it, but I'm still
>> unclear on what it's supposed to "be".
>
> That tears it! Your geek license is officially revoked. :P
What, *again*? o_O
> It's a tech news site.
Oh, is *that* what it's supposed to be?
> The comments section is famous for "First Post"
> type posts and disguised links to disgusting pictures. You think
> rickrolling is bad? Try a goatse. It was born on slashdot.
And trolls and endless flamewars and apparently clueless people and
arguments about text editors and... Yes, this is well documented. I
wasn't aware that the site has actual *benefits* though. I just avoid it.
> Shame, shame. You don't know what slashdot is...
Now I'm left wondering what the hell rickrolling is...
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Invisible wrote:
>
> Now I'm left wondering what the hell rickrolling is...
Use the Goo ...
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> I'm always interested in geeking out over obscure algorithms and such.
> But I rather doubt that's what a PhD is actually about.
We-ell, depends on the project, depends on the subject. The important thing of
course is to find something that interests you sufficiently to spend three+
years on it. And you don't have to be limited to subjects you already know;
ideally you want to be learning continuously as well as applying previous
know-how.
> And you say you
> get paid, but how much? Not a lot, I'd expect. I'm always on very low
> money - that's why I'm trying to get hold of a job that pays real money.
Last I heard, PhD students in my old department were getting upwards of 15k a
year - that was the standard EPSRC stipend that any engineering PhD student
could expect, which won't vary much between universities. And that's tax-free.
I imagine it's similar or better in mainland Europe or the US.
> > And despite what you say, you *can* write technical documents. You keep
> > posting them here, and they are well-written.
>
> Well, at least somebody has something nice to say about me. :-}
Everyone says it, if they're sufficiently interested to read it!
> > Style and structure is
> > something you pick up whilst reading around the subject, and most
> > institutions will offer formal training for students and staff.
>
> My college and my uni *did* offer (indeed, require) formal training. I
> still suck at it!
I didn't do it myself. I had good supervisors and colleagues.
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> Last I heard, PhD students in my old department were getting upwards of
> 15k a
> year - that was the standard EPSRC stipend that any engineering PhD
> student
> could expect, which won't vary much between universities. And that's
> tax-free.
> I imagine it's similar or better in mainland Europe or the US.
Yeh, when I was at Universtiy (5 years ago) it seemed that 12-14k tax free
was the norm. 15k tax free is equivalent to about 19k gross, so it's not at
all that bad.
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Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I'm always interested in geeking out over obscure algorithms and such.
>> But I rather doubt that's what a PhD is actually about.
>
> We-ell, depends on the project, depends on the subject. The important thing of
> course is to find something that interests you sufficiently to spend three+
> years on it. And you don't have to be limited to subjects you already know;
> ideally you want to be learning continuously as well as applying previous
> know-how.
Yeah. "Nerding out over the latest algorithms" isn't terribly specific, eh?
>> And you say you
>> get paid, but how much? Not a lot, I'd expect. I'm always on very low
>> money - that's why I'm trying to get hold of a job that pays real money.
>
> Last I heard, PhD students in my old department were getting upwards of 15k a
> year.
I currently earn £14k/year.
> And that's tax-free.
OK, that's somewhat better...
>>> And despite what you say, you *can* write technical documents. You keep
>>> posting them here, and they are well-written.
>> Well, at least somebody has something nice to say about me. :-}
>
> Everyone says it, if they're sufficiently interested to read it!
Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody gives
a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> rickrolling is bad? Try a goatse. It was born on slashdot.
Goatse was around long before HTTP, let alone slashdot.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
>> Now I'm left wondering what the hell rickrolling is...
> Use the Goo ...
Heh. Now *that* would be something for google to implement as a joke,
wouldn't it? You know what I'm talking about...
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Darren New wrote:
> Goatse was around long before HTTP, let alone slashdot.
I do not even want to *know* why you know that. Seriously.
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Invisible wrote:
> Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody gives
> a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
Maybe nobody in "industry", sure. People in academia go all ga-ga over
things like that, tho.
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Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody
>> gives a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
>
> Maybe nobody in "industry", sure. People in academia go all ga-ga over
> things like that, tho.
Yeah, well, nobody on this server cares - and certainly nobody IRL is
going to care either. :-P
(One or two outspoken game developers rate it - but just as many think
it's a cute toy with no real applications...)
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Invisible wrote:
> Normal people have friends. I am seemingly incapable of achieving this
> basic human need. I fail at life.
You insist on living in a place where there aren't enough people to find
good friends, for one thing.
You can't be friends with everyone. Thus, you need a wide selection of
acquaintances to choose friends from.
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Invisible wrote:
> Unfortunately for me, these things happen, like, once every few months.
> The rest of my life I heardly *speak* to another living human being.
> (Posting stuff on the Internet isn't the same.)
This is not that unusual, unless you're saying you don't even talk to
(say) people at work or in your house.
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scott wrote:
> That's how LED works (they're diodes!),
It's not so much because they're diodes as it is because they're quantum
semiconductors, actually. Vacuum tube diodes don't work this way, for
example.
You have to apply enough voltage to push the electrons on the N side
past the depletion zone in the middle, after which you've filled up all
the holes and away you go.
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Darren New wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> rickrolling is bad? Try a goatse. It was born on slashdot.
>
> Goatse was around long before HTTP, let alone slashdot.
>
You're kidding :/ I first encountered it on slashdot. At work of all
places...
I don't read the comments section slashdot anymore.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> You're kidding :/
Ever hear of NNTP? :-)
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Darren New wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> You're kidding :/
>
> Ever hear of NNTP? :-)
>
Umm, seeing as I'm on news.poveray.org ... yes. :)
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On 14-Nov-08 10:51, Invisible wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>>> Well, I don't have an MSc. I only have a BSc.
>>
>> Didn't know that, that changes a lot, I guess.
>
> Maybe. I'm not really sure what the difference is. (I don't really
> comprehend the distinctions between the myriad of different
> qualifications a person can hold.)
I think roughly speaking a BSc qualifies you to get a MSc and that will
be enough to get a PhD position. At least in the Netherlands I think a
BSc is not enough to become a PhD student.
>> Or if you start at the other end: for some likely kind of applicant to
>> fill one position we will have an almost Andy shaped hole left.
>
> If this doesn't make it into Invisible Me, I'll be amazed. ;-)
I think Gilles run out of inspiration we are still at #95 :(
pity, some were very good.
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Mike Raiford escreveu:
>> 1. What's RSS?
I think his Lynx web browser doesn't support it. ;)
> That tears it! Your geek license is officially revoked. :P
It was revoked long ago when he showed he didn't know who Stallman or
Jobs was, nor Valve software. ;)
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nemesis wrote:
> Mike Raiford escreveu:
>>> 1. What's RSS?
>
> I think his Lynx web browser doesn't support it. ;)
I'm fairly sure Firefox *supports* it, but I still don't know what it
*is*. :-P
>> That tears it! Your geek license is officially revoked. :P
>
> It was revoked long ago when he showed he didn't know who Stallman or
> Jobs was, nor Valve software. ;)
Are you kidding? *All* of the games I play are from Valve! :-P
It was... actually no, I don't remember which developer it was, but the
guys behind WoW or some other huge-name game like that.
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andrel wrote:
> I think roughly speaking a BSc qualifies you to get a MSc and that will
> be enough to get a PhD position. At least in the Netherlands I think a
> BSc is not enough to become a PhD student.
Sounds about right.
My sister has an MSc in Chemistry. And now she's an accountant...?
>>> Or if you start at the other end: for some likely kind of applicant
>>> to fill one position we will have an almost Andy shaped hole left.
>>
>> If this doesn't make it into Invisible Me, I'll be amazed. ;-)
>
> I think Gilles run out of inspiration we are still at #95 :(
> pity, some were very good.
...if rather unflattering, yes. :-}
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Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Unfortunately for me, these things happen, like, once every few
>> months. The rest of my life I heardly *speak* to another living human
>> being. (Posting stuff on the Internet isn't the same.)
>
> This is not that unusual, unless you're saying you don't even talk to
> (say) people at work or in your house.
Basically... yes.
I work in my office, which is a little 6' x 6' cube. Nobody ever comes
in. (Unless something is broken anyway.) I have *tried* to get to know
the folks there, but they basically don't like me for whatever reason.
I'm not sure if it's because I'm not female or because I'm 10 years
younger or what...
As for the people in my house... damnit, nobody *wants* to talk to my
mum! o_O
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Darren New wrote:
> You insist on living in a place where there aren't enough people to find
> good friends, for one thing.
Wuh?
> You can't be friends with everyone.
This I can handle.
> Thus, you need a wide selection of
> acquaintances to choose friends from.
This is where I fail.
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Orchid XP v8 escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Mike Raiford escreveu:
>>>> 1. What's RSS?
>>
>> I think his Lynx web browser doesn't support it. ;)
>
> I'm fairly sure Firefox *supports* it, but I still don't know what it
> *is*. :-P
Firefox calls it Live Bookmarks. Whenever you see in a website some
link with a cool little orange icon (courtesy of Mozilla and adopted by
Microsoft) named "RSS feed", you can "subscribe" to it and have all new
article and blog entries fed automatically to your browser. It's kinda
like NNTP for the web, except it's a one way communication link.
>> It was revoked long ago when he showed he didn't know who Stallman or
>> Jobs was, nor Valve software. ;)
>
> Are you kidding? *All* of the games I play are from Valve! :-P
>
> It was... actually no, I don't remember which developer it was, but the
> guys behind WoW or some other huge-name game like that.
Ah, yes, Blizzard.
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nemesis wrote:
> It's kinda like NNTP for the web, except it's a one way communication link.
Not really. You're just polling a special web page with summaries of
what's on other web pages. Not really like NNTP at all. Just periodic
checks of whether a page has changed.
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Invisible wrote:
> Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody gives
> a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
I was reading about it yesterday (a tutorial). Didn't get too far. Just
because I couldn't be bothered, and it didn't look too interesting; not
because I didn't get it.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
>> 2. What actually *is* Slashdot? I keep hearing about it, but I'm still
>> unclear on what it's supposed to "be".
>
> That tears it! Your geek license is officially revoked. :P
Frankly, I don't blame him. It took me quite a while to figure out how
to *use* it.
Not that it's hard to use. It's just hard to tell what the purpose of
the site is.
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Invisible wrote:
> Two questions:
>
> 1. What's RSS?
It's that technology that's insanely simple to use, and one that makes
me wonder why many/most people (including tech-savvy ones) don't use it.
If you ever go to any Web site with regularity to see if there are
updates, then you'll likely benefit from Atom/RSS feeds. Just go to
those web sites, subscribe to their feeds (Google Reader, RSSOwl, or
whatever other software you want to use - Firefox sucks for this). Then
just simply check Google Reader periodically, rather than checking 10+
different sites for updated content.
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>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
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Invisible wrote:
> Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody gives
> a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
*Especially* at universities.
Wait - where was GHC developed again? And what does the creator do for
a living?
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> just simply check Google Reader periodically, rather than checking 10+
> different sites for updated content.
I don't know if web browsers still do this, but it wasn't that many
years ago you could configure Mozilla to put a little star next to each
of your bookmarks that had been updated since last you looked at it.
RSS is the same thing, only just a bit less bandwidth.
--
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Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
> >> 2. What actually *is* Slashdot? I keep hearing about it, but I'm still
> >> unclear on what it's supposed to "be".
> >
> > That tears it! Your geek license is officially revoked. :P
>
> Frankly, I don't blame him. It took me quite a while to figure out how
> to *use* it.
>
> Not that it's hard to use. It's just hard to tell what the purpose of
> the site is.
Ok, while you guys dutifully newsread for all these years, something called
blogs appeared on the web and allowed people to read articles and comment.
Some more advanced tech news blogs, like Slashdot, even came up with a way to
let readers moderate other reader comments and the moderations to be moderated
themselves.
I guess that's about it.
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Invisible wrote:
>> Seriously. I think it's the best advice you've been given. You get
>> paid
>> to do all the fun geeky stuff your adviser wants you to do. And it's not
>> that rare that you'll also want to do it too! You'll be around smart
>> people (which *may* make you feel stupid for a while, but that'll go
>> away). And not sure about the UK and Europe, but (many) campuses in the
>> US have a good social environment. Lots of great speakers visit campus
>> and give talks - spanning the whole spectrum from science to politics.
>
> Sounds positively utopian.
There are downsides. Serendipity plays a role. Your adviser could suck.
Department policies can suck. Grading policies can suck. There is
variability. It's quite possible you may get stuck with a thesis topic
that doesn't interest you too much. And for most people, the first 0.5 -
1 years of doing research are quite dull. Reading papers in an area you
barely know anything about is depressing.
But once you learn enough to grok them, that problem disappears.
But that's how life is. Same issue with work. Except I'm almost certain
it's more likely to be dull.
> You'll excuse me if I'm a little skeptical... I was promised that
> college would be like this, and it wasn't. I was promised that
> university would be like this, and it wasn't.
Depends on the university. I met exchange students from Denmark and
Belgium. At their universities, there were no social activities. It was
almost like work - except the actual work was more interesting. They
didn't have quite a few of the things that I mentioned (the people
didn't lack it, though - those events still occur in the city).
At my most recent university in the US, we have 30-40K students. They
form lots of student organizations. You can bet there are lots and lots
of things going on. Everything I said occurs here. I can't speak for the
UK or Europe, but heck - Darren confirmed what I said as well.
I also went to a smaller, unknown university. Not as much stuff going
on, but still quite a bit.
The key to all of it is that you have to actively participate if you,
well, want to participate in those events. They put all kinds of notices
on bulletin boards, but you actually have to go to them ;-)
But those were the perks. In terms of studies, what I said is also true
in the US. They generally are fairly flexible about you taking courses
from other departments.
If you're unsure, the policies are outlined on their web sites. If it's
a pain to find, email the department secretary.
> You'll recall that I currently earn very little money. Am I likely to
> end up earning even less doing a PhD?
I think that question has been answered for the UK. In the US, it
varies. It helps if you go to a university that's not in an expensive
city - and there are a number of good ones in those kinds of locations.
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>> That's how LED works (they're diodes!),
>
> It's not so much because they're diodes as it is because they're quantum
> semiconductors, actually. Vacuum tube diodes don't work this way, for
> example.
Oh, there was me forgetting that not all diodes are semiconductors ;-)
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>> Sounds positively utopian.
>
> There are downsides. Serendipity plays a role. Your adviser could suck.
> Department policies can suck. Grading policies can suck. There is
> variability. It's quite possible you may get stuck with a thesis topic
> that doesn't interest you too much. And for most people, the first 0.5 -
> 1 years of doing research are quite dull. Reading papers in an area you
> barely know anything about is depressing.
>
> But once you learn enough to grok them, that problem disappears.
>
> But that's how life is. Same issue with work. Except I'm almost certain
> it's more likely to be dull.
Heh. Depends what your job is... ;-)
>> You'll excuse me if I'm a little skeptical... I was promised that
>> college would be like this, and it wasn't. I was promised that
>> university would be like this, and it wasn't.
>
> Depends on the university.
>
> At my most recent university in the US, we have 30-40K students.
The uni I went to was pretty tiny. I don't know precisely how big, but
it consisted of two fairly small buildings, and none of them ever seemed
particularly crowded.
> They
> form lots of student organizations. You can bet there are lots and lots
> of things going on.
One time I was workin late in the computer room. Just for giggles I
decided to wander over to the student union bar. They're always putting
up posters splashed with details about the latest event or whatever.
When I got there, it was amazing... They had a live DJ with a sound
system and they had disco lighting set up and so forth... and there were
THREE PEOPLE in the entire bar!
I LOL'd. For real. To this day, it still amazes me that they would go to
this much trouble to entertain 3 people. Unless that particular night
was unusually quiet for some reason - and I don't see why that would be.
Epic fail.
> The key to all of it is that you have to actively participate if you,
> well, want to participate in those events. They put all kinds of notices
> on bulletin boards, but you actually have to go to them ;-)
Yeah. I guess when I arrived at uni I *was* still in the "must avoid all
people" frame of mind...
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Invisible wrote:
>>>> And despite what you say, you *can* write technical documents. You keep
>>>> posting them here, and they are well-written.
>>> Well, at least somebody has something nice to say about me. :-}
>>
>> Everyone says it, if they're sufficiently interested to read it!
>
> Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody gives
> a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
I can't pretend I'm about to go out and try to use it, at least anytime
soon, but I do find the conversations about it interesting. I hadn't
even heard of it until I read about it here from you, so my horizons
have definitely been expanded at least a little...!
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Chambers wrote:
> I'm currently in a course that seems to be designed around the movie
> "Memento."
>
> Week one: talk about the history of Film and Literature (the title of the
> course).
> Week two: read the short story "Memento Mori", which "Memento" is based
> on.
> Week three: Watch "Memento".
> Week four: More talking about "Memento".
> Week five: ...
Shouldn't all that be the other way around? ;-)
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Invisible wrote:
> Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody gives
> a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
http://curtis.lassam.net/comics/programmers.png
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
> > Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody gives
> > a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
>
> http://curtis.lassam.net/comics/programmers.png
>
How appropriate for Invisible! :)
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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Invisible wrote:
>>> Heh. If there's one thing I've learned, it has to be this: Nobody gives
>>> a **** about Haskell. Seriously. Nobody cares.
>> http://curtis.lassam.net/comics/programmers.png
>>
>
> How appropriate for Invisible! :)
On the other hand, there's a long list of programs that didn't even make
the picture.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:56:14 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> I'm not disputing that getting paid for OSS is a good idea - I'm just
>>> saying it's highly nontrivial to achieve this.
>>
>> If it's non-trivial to fill out an application, then I guess you're
>> right. But you won't know UNTIL YOU TRY.
>
> Gotta find somebody to apply to first. :-P Same as everything else...
I pointed you at a couple of places, did you have a look?
Jim
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:20:16 +0100, andrel wrote:
> I think Gilles run out of inspiration we are still at #95 pity, some
> were very good.
I concur - I really have enjoyed reading it. :-)
Jim
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:59:31 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> So, you want to keep up with the tech industry?
>
> Not *especially*, but...
>
>> Subscribe to a slashdot RSS feed.
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1. What's RSS?
RSS = Really Simple Syndication. Equate to an Atom feed. In fact, your
blog has this capability, it's how I know when you've posted something
new.
> 2. What actually *is* Slashdot? I keep hearing about it, but I'm still
> unclear on what it's supposed to "be".
http://www.slashdot.org - it's ostensibly a news site with a comments
system. I find most of the comments are useless - there's a few "gems"
in there, but most of it is pretty inane. The thing I read it for
(actually subscribe to it via RSS) is the articles, which include links
to actual news stories. I find It's a good measure of what geeks find
newsworthy.
Jim
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:41:27 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> I just avoid it.
Avoid the discussions, read the stories.
Jim
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>> 1. What's RSS?
>
> RSS = Really Simple Syndication. Equate to an Atom feed. In fact, your
> blog has this capability, it's how I know when you've posted something
> new.
Heh. Well there you are... o_O
>> 2. What actually *is* Slashdot? I keep hearing about it, but I'm still
>> unclear on what it's supposed to "be".
>
> http://www.slashdot.org - it's ostensibly a news site with a comments
> system. I find most of the comments are useless - there's a few "gems"
> in there, but most of it is pretty inane. The thing I read it for
> (actually subscribe to it via RSS) is the articles, which include links
> to actual news stories. I find It's a good measure of what geeks find
> newsworthy.
Apparently I'm not geek enough. To me, it seemed to be all business and
politics...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:06:44 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> 1. What's RSS?
>>
>> RSS = Really Simple Syndication. Equate to an Atom feed. In fact,
>> your blog has this capability, it's how I know when you've posted
>> something new.
>
> Heh. Well there you are... o_O
And here you thought nobody was reading your blog. ;-)
>>> 2. What actually *is* Slashdot? I keep hearing about it, but I'm still
>>> unclear on what it's supposed to "be".
>>
>> http://www.slashdot.org - it's ostensibly a news site with a comments
>> system. I find most of the comments are useless - there's a few "gems"
>> in there, but most of it is pretty inane. The thing I read it for
>> (actually subscribe to it via RSS) is the articles, which include links
>> to actual news stories. I find It's a good measure of what geeks find
>> newsworthy.
>
> Apparently I'm not geek enough. To me, it seemed to be all business and
> politics...
There is some of that, but there are a fair number of technical
articles. I use Google Reader to scan the headlines and articles, goes
pretty quickly that way.
Jim
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Ah, but did you implement a 9D Hypercardigan? ;-)
Is that some sort of modern "upgrade" of the pocket protector? ;P
-Mike
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> And here you thought nobody was reading your blog. ;-)
Yeah, apparently...
>> Apparently I'm not geek enough. To me, it seemed to be all business and
>> politics...
>
> There is some of that, but there are a fair number of technical
> articles. I use Google Reader to scan the headlines and articles, goes
> pretty quickly that way.
IME, headlines tend to be wildly misleading.
(E.g., "I was pregnant for 3 years!" When you read the story, actually
she had a liver infection that made her *look* pregnant for 3 years...)
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:13:31 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> And here you thought nobody was reading your blog. ;-)
>
> Yeah, apparently...
I don't comment often, but I always read the new entries. Like I said, I
find you to be a good writer, and the topics you write about are
interesting - though like anyone else, the amount of interest varies from
post to post.
>>> Apparently I'm not geek enough. To me, it seemed to be all business
>>> and politics...
>>
>> There is some of that, but there are a fair number of technical
>> articles. I use Google Reader to scan the headlines and articles, goes
>> pretty quickly that way.
>
> IME, headlines tend to be wildly misleading.
>
> (E.g., "I was pregnant for 3 years!" When you read the story, actually
> she had a liver infection that made her *look* pregnant for 3 years...)
That's why I use it as a source to see what I should read about - I don't
just look at the headline (well, usually, I do - and that's what I use to
determine if I want to read more). If the story looks interesting, then
I'll read the referenced article, because /. nearly always includes a
link to the source article, and that's where the good info is.
IOW, I use it as a news filter for geek-related topics.
Jim
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:13:21 -0500, Jim Henderson wrote:
> That's why I use it as a source to see what I should read about - I
> don't just look at the headline (well, usually, I do - and that's what I
> use to determine if I want to read more). If the story looks
> interesting, then I'll read the referenced article, because /. nearly
> always includes a link to the source article, and that's where the good
> info is.
>
> IOW, I use it as a news filter for geek-related topics.
Incidentally, this is a similar technique to how I read this forum - I
just cruised through 300+ messages (been busy with work the past few
days), so I look at the subject lines, and if the subject looks
interesting, then I read a few messages. Stopping every once in a while
to see if the topic has changed.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Incidentally, this is a similar technique to how I read this forum - I
> just cruised through 300+ messages (been busy with work the past few
> days), so I look at the subject lines, and if the subject looks
> interesting, then I read a few messages. Stopping every once in a while
> to see if the topic has changed.
I used to do that on these newsgroups while offline, a few years ago.
I looked for interesting subjects, marked them for download, and connected
to my dialup ISP for a few minutes at night (when phone is cheaper) to get
them :)
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:44:36 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Incidentally, this is a similar technique to how I read this forum - I
>> just cruised through 300+ messages (been busy with work the past few
>> days), so I look at the subject lines, and if the subject looks
>> interesting, then I read a few messages. Stopping every once in a
>> while to see if the topic has changed.
>
> I used to do that on these newsgroups while offline, a few years ago.
>
> I looked for interesting subjects, marked them for download, and
> connected to my dialup ISP for a few minutes at night (when phone is
> cheaper) to get them :)
Yeah, that was really common for me on CompuServe as well, until I got a
sponsored account. :-)
Jim
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