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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Teh intertubes
Date: 15 Oct 2008 16:53:23
Message: <48f65843$1@news.povray.org>
This is possibly a dumb question, but... how *do* you add a video to 
YouTube?

I mean, do you have to register first? What formats to they accept? And 
wouldn't it take several years to upload an 80 MB video file??

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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 15 Oct 2008 19:02:06
Message: <48f6766e@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:48f65843$1@news.povray.org...
> This is possibly a dumb question, but... how *do* you add a video to 
> YouTube?
>
> I mean, do you have to register first? What formats to they accept? And 
> wouldn't it take several years to upload an 80 MB video file??

Here I can UL at 1 Mb/s, so 80 MB would be ~11 minutes.
There's a 1 GB limit.
They take various formats .WMV, .AVI, .MOV, and .MPG etc.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 15 Oct 2008 19:24:49
Message: <48f67bc0@news.povray.org>
Tim Attwood <tim### [at] comcastnet> wrote:
> They take various formats .WMV, .AVI, .MOV, and .MPG etc.

  If I'm not mistaken, only the last one is a video format. The other three
are container formats and do not specify the video format.

  An divx or xvid encoded video in an AVI file should work just fine for
youtube.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 16 Oct 2008 04:09:42
Message: <48f6f6c6@news.povray.org>
> This is possibly a dumb question, but... how *do* you add a video to 
> YouTube?

Dunno about YouTube, but with Google Video you can use your existing google 
account (or register one), then simply upload your video, adding any tags 
and catergories, descriptions etc.  After a few hours it becomes visible on 
the site.

> I mean, do you have to register first? What formats to they accept?

I've uploaded DivX and ones made with Windows Movie Makes .wmv.  I think 
they accept a pretty wide range.

> And wouldn't it take several years to upload an 80 MB video file??

Even with a 256kbit upload link an 80MB file is only going to take 30 mins 
or so.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 16 Oct 2008 04:11:42
Message: <48f6f73e$1@news.povray.org>
>> They take various formats .WMV, .AVI, .MOV, and .MPG etc.
> 
>   If I'm not mistaken, only the last one is a video format. The other three
> are container formats and do not specify the video format.

Yeah, probably. (I'm not 100% sure about WMV though.)

>   An divx or xvid encoded video in an AVI file should work just fine for
> youtube.

I don't have any way of generating DivX or Xvid. But IIRC, last time I 
tried, no matter what settings I used the picture came out horrifically 
blurry. I'd down the quality settings higher and higher, and the file 
got larger and larger, but there was no visible improvement in the 
picture. (OTOH, there seemed to be several million settings to adjust...)

Since my camcorder records onto 8cm DVDs which are reputedly playable on 
a normal DVD player, I'm presuming it generates MPEG-2. (I'm not sure 
how to actually get that off the disk though.)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 16 Oct 2008 04:16:06
Message: <48f6f846$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Attwood wrote:

> Here I can UL at 1 Mb/s, so 80 MB would be ~11 minutes.

Well, I get something like 5 Mbit/sec down, 0.1 Mbit/sec up. So 80 MB = 
640 Mbit, divided by 0.1 Mbit/sec = 6,400 seconds = 106 minutes = almost 
2 hours. Which, actually, isn't as bad as I'd feared.

(For example, downloading KNOPPIX - a 700 MB CD ISO image - took about 3 
hours last time I tried. Given how much slower it is to upload than 
download, I was thinking it would take years to upload anything of size.)

> There's a 1 GB limit.

What, on YouTube itself?

Mmm, OTOH it would take forever to upload that much data anyway...

I guess a few minutes of DVD video shouldn't be *that* large.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 16 Oct 2008 04:29:46
Message: <48f6fb7a$1@news.povray.org>
> I don't have any way of generating DivX or Xvid.

Lots of freeware tools can make it.  One GUI tool that I find particularly 
easy to use is Xvid4PSP, lots of presets so no need to fiddle about with 
command line options if you don't want to.

> Since my camcorder records onto 8cm DVDs which are reputedly playable on a 
> normal DVD player, I'm presuming it generates MPEG-2. (I'm not sure how to 
> actually get that off the disk though.)

There are much better compression algorithms (ie way lower bitrate for same 
quality) than the DVD-standard available.  Read the instructions, I'm sure 
it will tell you how to get the video on to your computer.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 16 Oct 2008 10:37:27
Message: <48f751a7@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>> There's a 1 GB limit.
> 
> What, on YouTube itself?

Of course, that's the upload limit. The server would re-encode it to a small
(in terms of pixels) 15fps FLV which would surely be a much smaller file.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 16 Oct 2008 18:52:00
Message: <48f7c590$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> how to actually get that off the disk though.)

A standard DVD's ".VOB" files are mpeg of whatever appropriate stripe.

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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Teh intertubes
Date: 16 Oct 2008 19:28:02
Message: <48f7ce02@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I don't have any way of generating DivX or Xvid. But IIRC, last time I 
> tried, no matter what settings I used the picture came out horrifically 
> blurry. I'd down the quality settings higher and higher, and the file 
> got larger and larger, but there was no visible improvement in the 
> picture.

  Then all those divx and xvid videos out there which look just fine must
have been created by magic. ;)

> Since my camcorder records onto 8cm DVDs which are reputedly playable on 
> a normal DVD player, I'm presuming it generates MPEG-2. (I'm not sure 
> how to actually get that off the disk though.)

  If you are able to play the DVD videos with your computer, it's rather
trivial to copy the video/audio streams from the DVD to eg. an AVI file.
For example mencoder can do that. There are probably also many Windows
programs which can also do that.

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                                                          - Warp


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