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...how the heck do you pronounce "Lieblich Gedact"?
(Apparently it's German.)
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On 14-Oct-08 23:40, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> ...how the heck do you pronounce "Lieblich Gedact"?
I think that would be a (rather common) mistyping. I assume that
gedac*k*t was meant. The lonely 'c' in 'Gedact' does strike me as rather
ungerman.
>
> (Apparently it's German.)
>
yep, so pronounce it as a German would ;)
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> ...how the heck do you pronounce "Lieblich Gedact"?
>
> (Apparently it's German.)
Type each word into dict.cc (it's gedacht by the way) and then you get a
little speaker icon on the right where you can hear a human saying the word
(for most words, computer generated for others).
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>> ...how the heck do you pronounce "Lieblich Gedact"?
> I think that would be a (rather common) mistyping. I assume that
> gedac*k*t was meant. The lonely 'c' in 'Gedact' does strike me as rather
> ungerman.
Wikipedia and the online organ stop dictionary concur.
Hey, I'm only telling you what's physically written on the knob! ;-)
>> (Apparently it's German.)
>>
> yep, so pronounce it as a German would ;)
Oh that's *so* helpful! :-P
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Am Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:40:50 +0100 schrieb Orchid XP v8:
> ...how the heck do you pronounce "Lieblich Gedact"?
>
> (Apparently it's German.)
I've recorded it, but need a little help on attaching it to a newsgroup
post. What was again the name of the linux program to encode such stuff?
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Am Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:29:31 -0400 schrieb Florian Pesth:
> Am Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:40:50 +0100 schrieb Orchid XP v8:
>
>> ...how the heck do you pronounce "Lieblich Gedact"?
http://www.pesth.org/tmp/lieblich.ogg
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>>> ...how the heck do you pronounce "Lieblich Gedact"?
>
> http://www.pesth.org/tmp/lieblich.ogg
...so there you have it then. Quite conclusively.
Thanks. ;-)
Now, if anybody has a clue what the correct pronounciation for
"Diapason" is... (Even though that's English, I'm not sure exactly how
it's supposed to be pronounced.)
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Now, if anybody has a clue what the correct pronounciation for
> "Diapason" is... (Even though that's English, I'm not sure exactly how
> it's supposed to be pronounced.)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diapason
That site has audio files for most of the words.
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Warp wrote:
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diapason
>
> That site has audio files for most of the words.
Thanks for the tip.
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
48f6447f$1@news.povray.org...
(Even though that's English, I'm not sure exactly how
> it's supposed to be pronounced.)
AFAIK it is Greek
Marc
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> (Even though that's English, I'm not sure exactly how
>> it's supposed to be pronounced.)
>
> AFAIK it is Greek
What, you mean like the way "telephone" is Greek? ;-)
"English: A language that hides in dark corners waiting to mug other
language, rifle through their pockets and steal spare vocabulary."
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> "English: A language that hides in dark corners waiting to mug other
> language, rifle through their pockets and steal spare vocabulary."
I actually find it really fascinating to learn about the history of English
words. Whilst learning German it is surprising how many words are actually
German words in disguise (once you know a few "rules").
eg
Tag -> Day (T -> D and G -> Y rule)
Apfel -> Apple (F -> P rule)
Gelb -> Yellow (G -> Y rule again, plus b -> w)
Gestern -> Yesterday (G -> Y rule again)
habe -> have
Tuer -> Door
Gott -> God
etc...
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scott wrote:
> I actually find it really fascinating to learn about the history of
> English words. Whilst learning German it is surprising how many words
> are actually German words in disguise (once you know a few "rules").
Similarly, how many words are based on Latin or just *are* Latin...
Ambulo - "I walk"
Vocat - "I speak"
Laborat - "I work"
etc.
The nice thing about Latin is that most of the sounds are pronouncible.
It took me an entire evening of practice to finally master uttering the
words "Lieblich Gedackt". o_O
(Similarly, while taking the train through Switzerland, there are an
endless number of stations who's name, as read by the recorded
announcement, sounded more like somebody coughing than anything you
could describe as a "word".)
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"scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> > "English: A language that hides in dark corners waiting to mug other
> > language, rifle through their pockets and steal spare vocabulary."
>
> I actually find it really fascinating to learn about the history of English
> words. Whilst learning German it is surprising how many words are actually
> German words in disguise (once you know a few "rules").
>
Lots of our words are Germanic
Gang (as in gangplank); Dutch for corridor, Scots for go.
Kirk (Scots for Church); Kirche in German, Kerk in Dutch
Long (Lang in Scots); Lange in German, Lang in Dutch.
Nether (under), Neder in Dutch.
Daughter (Dochter in Scots); Tochter in German, dochter in Dutch.
But since a lot of Germanic peoples visited Britain after the Romans left it is
not surprising.
Stephen
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Am Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:29:05 +0100 schrieb Orchid XP v8:
>>>> ...how the heck do you pronounce "Lieblich Gedact"?
>>
>> http://www.pesth.org/tmp/lieblich.ogg
>
> ...so there you have it then. Quite conclusively.
Along the way I learned why yEnc is better than uuencode but bad and that
uploading of binary files to usenet is probably still broken. However
what I didn't learn / found was the package name for it in Ubuntu.
>
> Thanks. ;-)
>
You're welcome. If you wanted to learn german I'm glad to help ;-). (Ok,
ok I realise that you just want to sing (?) something - or are just
curious whatever)
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On 16-Oct-08 10:56, Invisible wrote:
> The nice thing about Latin is that most of the sounds are pronouncible.
You mean pronounceable in a heavy English accent? Then again, as there
are no native speakers, who is to judge.
> It took me an entire evening of practice to finally master uttering the
> words "Lieblich Gedackt". o_O
You won't know if you succeeded unless you have a german handy. (In a
slightly obvious attempt to try to get the Germans to misinterpret that
;) ). Or record your attempt and post it somewhere.
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>> The nice thing about Latin is that most of the sounds are pronouncible.
>
> You mean pronounceable in a heavy English accent? Then again, as there
> are no native speakers, who is to judge.
Well, the Italians, so I hear...
>> It took me an entire evening of practice to finally master uttering
>> the words "Lieblich Gedackt". o_O
>
> You won't know if you succeeded unless you have a german handy.
Florian has already fixed that one for me. ;-)
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On 16-Oct-08 23:35, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> The nice thing about Latin is that most of the sounds are pronouncible.
>>
>> You mean pronounceable in a heavy English accent? Then again, as there
>> are no native speakers, who is to judge.
>
> Well, the Italians, so I hear...
I don't think so, they can compare to contemporary Italian not to how it
was pronounced 2000 years ago. Remember, there was a time when the
English written and spoken language were connected.
>>> It took me an entire evening of practice to finally master uttering
>>> the words "Lieblich Gedackt". o_O
>>
>> You won't know if you succeeded unless you have a german handy.
>
> Florian has already fixed that one for me. ;-)
Sort of, you know how he pronounces it, but does he know how you do?
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Invisible wrote:
> scott wrote:
>
>> I actually find it really fascinating to learn about the history of
>> English words. Whilst learning German it is surprising how many words
>> are actually German words in disguise (once you know a few "rules").
>
> Similarly, how many words are based on Latin or just *are* Latin...
I've noticed that English seems to have two of many words meaning
similar things but with slightly different connotations. One tends to
come from the Spanish/Latin kind of words, with the other coming from
the German.
Snot / booger.
Terminate / Finish.
Cold / Frigid.
Stuff like that.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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>> Florian has already fixed that one for me. ;-)
>
> Sort of, you know how he pronounces it, but does he know how you do?
Exactly. No matter how exactly I think I am copying how my gf pronounces a
word, she still tells me it's not correct, and she says it sounds like I'm
from Holland (as a lot of English trying to speak German do, apparently).
Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she can't tell me apart from
a native!
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scott wrote:
> Exactly. No matter how exactly I think I am copying how my gf
> pronounces a word, she still tells me it's not correct, and she says it
> sounds like I'm from Holland (as a lot of English trying to speak German
> do, apparently). Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she
> can't tell me apart from a native!
...that's what SHE said. ;-)
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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
48f7c440@news.povray.org...
> I've noticed that English seems to have two of many words meaning similar
> things but with slightly different connotations. One tends to come from
> the Spanish/Latin kind of words, with the other coming from the German.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_of_England ;-)
Marc
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m_a_r_c wrote:
> "Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 48f7c440@news.povray.org...
>> I've noticed that English seems to have two of many words meaning simi
lar
>> things but with slightly different connotations. One tends to come fro
m
>> the Spanish/Latin kind of words, with the other coming from the German
.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_of_England ;-)
Well, yes, I know *why* it happened. I just thought it was interesting
that there were slightly different connotations, like the difference
between "finished" and "terminated", for example.
--
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:46:23 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>I've noticed that English seems to have two of many words meaning
>similar things but with slightly different connotations. One tends to
>come from the Spanish/Latin kind of words, with the other coming from
>the German.
An interesting observation, here in the British Isles you might find a
preference for the different words depending on the area that you live in. Where
the local dialect descends from the original invaders. For instance in the home
counties there is a greater inclination to use words from the Romance languages
and in the north, people use more Germanic words.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 17-Oct-08 8:37, scott wrote:
>>> Florian has already fixed that one for me. ;-)
>>
>> Sort of, you know how he pronounces it, but does he know how you do?
>
> Exactly. No matter how exactly I think I am copying how my gf
> pronounces a word, she still tells me it's not correct,
Yes, it is in the length of the vowels, the exact positioning of the
consonants in the mouth and the use of pauses and inflections that matters.
> and she says it
> sounds like I'm from Holland (as a lot of English trying to speak German
> do, apparently).
It is also hard to distinguish between a Dutch and a German who try to
speak English (at least for me). That leaves one combination: The
English and the German trying to speak Dutch. Not common of course, but
I can tell them apart easily. What does this tell us? That the
Netherlands is in between England and Germany? Stop the press, we just
did an amazing discovery... ;)
> Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she
> can't tell me apart from a native!
I guess she simply likes natives.
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Am Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:12:57 +0200 schrieb andrel:
>
>> Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she can't tell me apart
>> from a native!
>
> I guess she simply likes natives.
Well, I usually can understand Dutch better than Bavarian and I don't
speak neither ;-)
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On 17-Oct-08 21:22, Florian Pesth wrote:
> Am Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:12:57 +0200 schrieb andrel:
>
>>> Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she can't tell me apart
>>> from a native!
>> I guess she simply likes natives.
>
> Well, I usually can understand Dutch better than Bavarian and I don't
> speak neither ;-)
OK, trying to incorporate new fact... Bavaria is somewhere between
England and the Netherlands. Am I close?
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:27:08 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>On 17-Oct-08 21:22, Florian Pesth wrote:
>> Am Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:12:57 +0200 schrieb andrel:
>>
>>>> Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she can't tell me apart
>>>> from a native!
>>> I guess she simply likes natives.
>>
>> Well, I usually can understand Dutch better than Bavarian and I don't
>> speak neither ;-)
>
>OK, trying to incorporate new fact... Bavaria is somewhere between
>England and the Netherlands. Am I close?
Splash!!!
:)
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Regards
Stephen
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Am Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:27:08 +0200 schrieb andrel:
> On 17-Oct-08 21:22, Florian Pesth wrote:
>> Am Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:12:57 +0200 schrieb andrel:
>>
>>>> Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she can't tell me
>>>> apart from a native!
>>> I guess she simply likes natives.
>>
>> Well, I usually can understand Dutch better than Bavarian and I don't
>> speak neither ;-)
>
> OK, trying to incorporate new fact... Bavaria is somewhere between
> England and the Netherlands. Am I close?
I would say it's more close to Austria linguistically. Interestingly (or
not depending on your view) northern german dialects have some stuff
common with Dutch - so I think linguistic borders are somehow softened by
the local language. Even on the east of germany, where there is a bigger
linguistic border to Polish (beeing a slawic language) there is the
sorbian language which is closer to Polish.
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>> Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she
>> can't tell me apart from a native!
>
> I guess she simply likes natives.
She doesn't, she hates them!
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On 20-Oct-08 12:23, scott wrote:
>>> Funnily enough, she says when I speak Bavarian she can't tell me
>>> apart from a native!
>>
>> I guess she simply likes natives.
>
> She doesn't, she hates them!
>
In which case it may not be so good that she can't distinguish you from
one of them.
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>>> I guess she simply likes natives.
>>
>> She doesn't, she hates them!
>>
> In which case it may not be so good that she can't distinguish you from
> one of them.
I know, she tells me to stop it everytime I try to immitate them...
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