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From: Darren New
Subject: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeing to work with...
Date: 1 Oct 2008 23:12:43
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They're really not paying me enough for the amount of shit they're
giving me. Including the shit of arguing with me over (a) how much
they're paying me and (b) how much shit they get to give me.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 2 Oct 2008 00:11:14
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Darren New wrote:
> They're really not paying me enough for the amount of shit they're
> giving me. Including the shit of arguing with me over (a) how much
> they're paying me and (b) how much shit they get to give me.
I feel you pain.
http://blip.tv/file/1061088
:)
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 2 Oct 2008 12:46:11
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Darren New wrote:
> They're really not paying me enough for the amount of shit they're
> giving me. Including the shit of arguing with me over (a) how much
> they're paying me and (b) how much shit they get to give me.
>
What a familiar refrain :-)
I got a couple atm that are real PITAs. One, a reasonably large chain of
Estate Agents, frequently issues contradictory instructions and then
denies having made either until I produce the offending documents and
the other, a small chain of internet cafes listens to me, agrees to
implement everything I advise and then proceeds to do the exact
opposite. Aaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!
John (wondering if it's legal to shoot clients like that)
--
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei
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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 2 Oct 2008 13:04:16
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"Doctor John" <joh### [at] home com> wrote in message
news:48e4fad3$1@news.povray.org...
> John (wondering if it's legal to shoot clients like that)
Actually no it's not! However it's perfectly acceptable to pretend to pinch
there heads off .... ;-)
I have a view from my desk that allows me to pretend to pinch customers
heads off before they enter the shop. It's especially uplifting if I've had
a bad day.
Cheers
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:46:10 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
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>John (wondering if it's legal to shoot clients like that)
Yup! Of course it is. 'Cause I've just done that :)
My latest client has just told me that my contract is only to be extended for 4
weeks instead of the three months they said originally. Unfortunately (for them)
I got a new contract immediately and I don't have to hand in any notice because
my contract ends tomorrow. Guess who screwed them to come in for a couple of
extra days next week :)
I won't say how much because I'm embarrassed :) :)
--
Regards
Stephen
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 2 Oct 2008 14:22:36
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Stephen wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:46:10 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>
>> John (wondering if it's legal to shoot clients like that)
>
> Yup! Of course it is. 'Cause I've just done that :)
>
> My latest client has just told me that my contract is only to be extended for 4
> weeks instead of the three months they said originally. Unfortunately (for them)
> I got a new contract immediately and I don't have to hand in any notice because
> my contract ends tomorrow. Guess who screwed them to come in for a couple of
> extra days next week :)
> I won't say how much because I'm embarrassed :) :)
Why be embarrassed? Shout your achievements from the rooftops, publish
upon these very pages, send for to slay the fatted calf, let joy be
unbounded (...and then buy me a drink, it's your round first ;-) )
John
--
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:22:35 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>Why be embarrassed? Shout your achievements from the rooftops, publish
>upon these very pages, send for to slay the fatted calf, let joy be
>unbounded (...and then buy me a drink, it's your round first ;-) )
>
Because I'm a socialist and working class ("very" according to my sis' in-law) I
asked for a ridiculous day rate expecting to be told F' off but my bluff was
called :)
As for buying the first round consider it done ;)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:22:35 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
> publish upon these very pages
Let's say that it is beyond the dreams of avariciousness or for a banker :)
--
Regards
Stephen
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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 2 Oct 2008 15:15:16
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Stephen wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:22:35 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>
>
>> Why be embarrassed? Shout your achievements from the rooftops, publish
>> upon these very pages, send for to slay the fatted calf, let joy be
>> unbounded (...and then buy me a drink, it's your round first ;-) )
>>
>
> Because I'm a socialist and working class ("very" according to my sis' in-law) I
> asked for a ridiculous day rate expecting to be told F' off but my bluff was
> called :)
> As for buying the first round consider it done ;)
Did you ask for enough to make worth the pain?
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:15:16 -0400, Tom Austin <taustin> wrote:
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>Did you ask for enough to make worth the pain?
I don't know but it hits a dream figure (three zero's).
--
Regards
Stephen
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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingtowork with...
Date: 2 Oct 2008 15:53:37
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Doctor John wrote:
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> John (wondering if it's legal to shoot clients like that)
>
Yes. Yes it is. But make sure they've paid theier bills fully before
shooting them.
--
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethis zbxt net invalid
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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 2 Oct 2008 17:46:26
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Darren New wrote:
> They're really not paying me enough for the amount of shit they're
> giving me. Including the shit of arguing with me over (a) how much
> they're paying me and (b) how much shit they get to give me.
Wow, you're being dealt shit recursively... it must be bad :/
Sam
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingtoworkwith...
Date: 3 Oct 2008 14:01:08
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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Doctor John wrote:
>>
>> John (wondering if it's legal to shoot clients like that)
>>
>
> Yes. Yes it is. But make sure they've paid theier bills fully before
> shooting them.
>
Now that is what I call good advice
John
--
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 3 Oct 2008 14:02:24
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Stephen wrote:
> As for buying the first round consider it done ;)
Woohoo!! Triple Lagavulins all round :-) :-)
John
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"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:02:24 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> As for buying the first round consider it done ;)
>
>Woohoo!! Triple Lagavulins all round :-) :-)
>
When I said "consider it done" I meant it was in the past tense :)
And only for those who turn up ;)
Talking about whisky, I tried Penderyn Whisky (note no "e") and liked it. It
tastes like an East coast whisky and does not have that peaty taste. It seems to
me that it is midway between Irish and Scotch as it does not have as much of the
fire of Scotch but not as mild as Irish.
--
Regards
Stephen
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 4 Oct 2008 08:56:17
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Stephen wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:02:24 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>
>> Stephen wrote:
>>> As for buying the first round consider it done ;)
>> Woohoo!! Triple Lagavulins all round :-) :-)
>>
>
> When I said "consider it done" I meant it was in the past tense :)
Typical Scot :-p
> And only for those who turn up ;)
It ain't me who's been in Welsh Wales for the last n months
> Talking about whisky, I tried Penderyn Whisky (note no "e") and liked it. It
> tastes like an East coast whisky and does not have that peaty taste. It seems to
> me that it is midway between Irish and Scotch as it does not have as much of the
> fire of Scotch but not as mild as Irish.
That's the Welsh one, yes? Must see if any hostelry round here sells it.
John
--
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:56:16 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:02:24 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>> As for buying the first round consider it done ;)
>>> Woohoo!! Triple Lagavulins all round :-) :-)
>>>
>>
>> When I said "consider it done" I meant it was in the past tense :)
>Typical Scot :-p
>> And only for those who turn up ;)
>It ain't me who's been in Welsh Wales for the last n months
You'd start an argument in an empty room, would you not? ;)
>> Talking about whisky, I tried Penderyn Whisky (note no "e") and liked it. It
>> tastes like an East coast whisky and does not have that peaty taste. It seems to
>> me that it is midway between Irish and Scotch as it does not have as much of the
>> fire of Scotch but not as mild as Irish.
>That's the Welsh one, yes? Must see if any hostelry round here sells it.
>
http://www.welsh-whisky.co.uk/wheretobuy.html
--
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:56:16 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>
>> Stephen wrote:
>>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:02:24 +0100, Doctor John <joh### [at] home com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>>> As for buying the first round consider it done ;)
>>>> Woohoo!! Triple Lagavulins all round :-) :-)
>>>>
>>> When I said "consider it done" I meant it was in the past tense :)
>> Typical Scot :-p
>>> And only for those who turn up ;)
>> It ain't me who's been in Welsh Wales for the last n months
>
> You'd start an argument in an empty room, would you not? ;)
>
>>> Talking about whisky, I tried Penderyn Whisky (note no "e") and liked it. It
>>> tastes like an East coast whisky and does not have that peaty taste. It seems to
>>> me that it is midway between Irish and Scotch as it does not have as much of the
>>> fire of Scotch but not as mild as Irish.
>> That's the Welsh one, yes? Must see if any hostelry round here sells it.
>>
>
> http://www.welsh-whisky.co.uk/wheretobuy.html
omg, it's available in Sainsbury's. :-)
Bet they're out of stock when I get there.
John
--
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei
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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingto work with...
Date: 9 Oct 2008 23:37:24
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Darren New wrote:
> They're really not paying me enough for the amount of shit they're
> giving me. Including the shit of arguing with me over (a) how much
> they're paying me and (b) how much shit they get to give me.
>
What I would do:
Obviuosly 1 of 2 things will happen: you'd eventually explode in fury
(if you keep it to urself) or you'll get fired if you dare to say it as
you feel like it. So, waiting to explode is always the worst case
scenario thus a more diplomatic "go fuk urselves if u think u can treat
me like this" good bye speech could be a better solution IMO so they'll
treat with more respect and intelligence the next dev. and u'lll get
some peace of mind in another job/place. Is not a neat solution but I
think u get dignity, they learn a lesson and u do something u were
afraid to do, look for greener fields...
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Occasionally, there's a consulting client I really regret agreeingtowork with...
Date: 10 Oct 2008 01:38:27
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Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Obviuosly 1 of 2 things will happen: you'd eventually explode in fury
> (if you keep it to urself)
I'm obviously not keeping it to myself. But I'm not telling them yet.
> or you'll get fired if you dare to say it as you feel like it.
I'm a consultant again at this point. Part of the problem is they're
trying to get me to abandon my other customers to do nonsense work for
them. Getting "fired" is not really that much of a problem.
I thank you for your advice. I was more just venting (with what I felt
was a clever turn of phrase) really. :-)
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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