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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 08:20:40
Message: <48db8218@news.povray.org>
Hey what is it with women and hammers? Before I get flamed I'll admit that 
this maybe an unfair generalization because I'm sure there are just as many 
Men and Hammers stories out there .... it just seems the gals have it hands 
down for the comedic content alone.

I started getting busy with fall chores, one of them service the lawn mower. 
I'd got the blade off to be sharpened, drained the oil and refilled it, then 
the firewood guy shows up. I still had to change the spark plug but needed 
to go help with the unloading. The wife decided to be helpful and when she 
couldn't get the spark plug to budge with the socket wrench she takes a 
hammer to it!!!!! Lord help me ..... what's a guy to do?

OK, so tell me now I'm not the only one with women and hammers stories.

Jim


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 08:23:45
Message: <48db82d1$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback wrote:

> OK, so tell me now I'm not the only one with women and hammers stories.

My mum once tripped over while carrying an electric drill and 
accidentally drilled a hole in her arm...


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 08:26:22
Message: <48db836e@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:48db82d1$1@news.povray.org...
> My mum once tripped over while carrying an electric drill and accidentally 
> drilled a hole in her arm...

yikes that had to hurt!!!!

wife has nailed her shirt tail to a saw horse once


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 08:33:10
Message: <48db8506@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback wrote:
> 
> I started getting busy with fall chores, one of them service the lawn mower. 
> I'd got the blade off to be sharpened, drained the oil and refilled it, then 
> the firewood guy shows up. I still had to change the spark plug but needed 
> to go help with the unloading. The wife decided to be helpful and when she 
> couldn't get the spark plug to budge with the socket wrench she takes a 
> hammer to it!!!!! Lord help me ..... what's a guy to do?
> 

If violence didn't help, you didn't use enough force. Having a hammer 
makes applying more force to violence easy.

> 
> Jim 
> 

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
       aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 08:35:02
Message: <48db8576$1@news.povray.org>
>> My mum once tripped over while carrying an electric drill and accidentally 
>> drilled a hole in her arm...
> 
> yikes that had to hurt!!!!

Well... a trip to hospital, a mild muscle infection, a few months off 
work, that kinda thing.

> wife has nailed her shirt tail to a saw horse once 

Heh. My mum screwed me and my sister to a plank of wood...


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 08:41:05
Message: <48db86e1$1@news.povray.org>
> I started getting busy with fall chores, one of them service the lawn 
> mower. I'd got the blade off to be sharpened, drained the oil and refilled 
> it, then the firewood guy shows up. I still had to change the spark plug 
> but needed to go help with the unloading. The wife decided to be helpful 
> and when she couldn't get the spark plug to budge with the socket wrench 
> she takes a hammer to it!!!!! Lord help me ..... what's a guy to do?

Teach her to use her foot, or show her how you can attach a length of piping 
to the wrench to get a better mechanical advantage.  I find that 1 metre 
usually undoes most things (unfortunately it also undid the top of a bolt 
from the bolt itself once, but hey).

OTOH, it's cool that a) she tried to help out on something like that without 
even being asked, and b) that she had a rough idea what needed doing.  My 
other half wouldn't have a clue, and even if you paid her wouldn't go 
anywhere near something loud and dirty like a mower.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 08:46:16
Message: <48db8818$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback wrote:

> I started getting busy with fall chores, one of them service the lawn mower. 
> I'd got the blade off to be sharpened, drained the oil and refilled it, then 
> the firewood guy shows up. I still had to change the spark plug but needed 
> to go help with the unloading. The wife decided to be helpful and when she 
> couldn't get the spark plug to budge with the socket wrench she takes a 
> hammer to it!!!!! Lord help me ..... what's a guy to do?

1. You sharpened the blade? I've never seen anybody do that, ever.

2. The mower isn't electric?


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 08:55:53
Message: <48db8a59@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:48db8818$1@news.povray.org...
> Jim Holsenback wrote:
>
>> I started getting busy with fall chores, one of them service the lawn 
>> mower. I'd got the blade off to be sharpened, drained the oil and 
>> refilled it, then the firewood guy shows up. I still had to change the 
>> spark plug but needed to go help with the unloading. The wife decided to 
>> be helpful and when she couldn't get the spark plug to budge with the 
>> socket wrench she takes a hammer to it!!!!! Lord help me ..... what's a 
>> guy to do?
>
> 1. You sharpened the blade? I've never seen anybody do that, ever.

    yep .... have a grinder. I usually sharpen every other year. that's the 
mower for the close in stuff. the tractor has 5 blades I take them to a shop 
for those.

> 2. The mower isn't electric?

   haha ..... big yard extension cords not long enough.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 09:09:22
Message: <48db8d82@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> 
> Teach her to use her foot, or show her how you can attach a length of 
> 

And the correct technic to check that the wrench actually turns to a 
right direction. Some ASCII-art, seen from top, "b" is bolt, g is 
grabbing-place of wrench

|   g
|b--|
|

And seen from side (just wrench and bolt)

b
|
|---g

And from the front:

|
|b--g
|

If you'll just press the wrench down directly, it won't only try to 
unscrew the bolt, but also turn itself (and the bolt) downwards looked 
from the bolt (pic from front):

|
|b-_
|   g

So you'll need something to hold the wrench vertical while turning it 
(pic from front, H is just right sized object to keep the wrench vertical):

|
|b--g
|   H

I hope I and my ASCII are understandable...

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
       aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 11:28:53
Message: <48dbae35@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news: 
48db82d1$1@news.povray.org...
> Jim Holsenback wrote:
>
>> OK, so tell me now I'm not the only one with women and hammers stories.
>
> My mum once tripped over while carrying an electric drill and accidentally 
> drilled a hole in her arm...

And you tell there  are scary people here?

Marc


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 11:28:54
Message: <48dbae36@news.povray.org>
"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
48db8a59@news.povray.org...
>>
>> 1. You sharpened the blade? I've never seen anybody do that, ever.
>
>    yep .... have a grinder. I usually sharpen every other year. that's the 
> mower for the close in stuff. the tractor has 5 blades I take them to a 
> shop for those.

It is less painfull when you cut your own toes with a sharpened blade >:-)

>
>> 2. The mower isn't electric?
>
>   haha ..... big yard extension cords not long enough.
With electric mowers, the 1st thing you're likely to cut is the power cord 
but before you have to slaughter flower beds  with it and mess it between 
trees and shrubs  :-)

Marc


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 12:43:17
Message: <48dbbfa5$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>> My mum once tripped over while carrying an electric drill and 
>>> accidentally drilled a hole in her arm...
> 
> Heh. My mum screwed me and my sister to a plank of wood...

Your mother should never ever be allowed near power tools again. Ever.
-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 12:44:50
Message: <48dbc002$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

> 
> If violence didn't help, you didn't use enough force. Having a hammer 
> makes applying more force to violence easy.
> 

Mmm, the old "I learned a new programming technology" axiom. "When all 
you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 12:49:24
Message: <48dbc114$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> 
> 1. You sharpened the blade? I've never seen anybody do that, ever.

Its a good thing to do occasionally. This way it cleanly cuts the grass, 
rather than shredding it.

Whats real fun is to run a thatch blade over a lawn. Actually buying one 
got incredulous looks from the "know-it-all" at the hardware store who 
proceeded to lecture me about how he's been mowing his lawn for some 15 
years and never needed one.

Bermuda grass needs to be thatched occasionally, or it strangles the 
soil. That year, I had the nicest, lushest, greenest lawns on the block, 
though it looked like hell immediately after the dethatching.

> 
> 2. The mower isn't electric?

There's electric mowers? I'd be a bit paranoid about running over the cord.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 13:56:23
Message: <48dbd0c7$1@news.povray.org>
>> Heh. My mum screwed me and my sister to a plank of wood...

I would like the record to show the following:

   This experience was rather painful for both my sister and me. When my 
mum realised what was going on, she immediately tried to put the drill 
into reverse drive.

   Unfortunately, she put the drill into hammar action instead.

   This not only tightened the screws even further, but also hammars our 
fingers.

   Finally she found reverse, releasing my sister, who she then rushed 
indoors and put her fingers under the cold tap. I, however, was still 
trapped. I can vividly remember my sister's pained expression as she 
looked up from the sink and saw me still trapped.

   And laughed at me! >:-[

   She didn't, like, *tell* mum I was still trapped or anything. She 
just took there and laughed at me through the kitchen window.

   Damnit.

> Your mother should never ever be allowed near power tools again. Ever.

Well, that used to be her _job_...

[Which is why she even owns power tools. She certainly didn't *buy* them 
herself!]

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 13:59:40
Message: <48dbd18c$1@news.povray.org>
m_a_r_c wrote:

> And you tell there  are scary people here?

That's not scary - just incompetent.

There's also the time she walked into a concrete bollard and went 
face-first into the pavement.

Or the time she stepped backwards down a small half-step and twisted her 
ankle.

Or the time she accidentally amputated her entire fingernail because she 
couldn't be bothered to use the safety guard on the new vegatable slicer 
she bought.

Or the time she took skiing lessons and twisted her angle. (My mate 
who's a ski race coach tells me this is physically impossible since the 
boots prohibit the movement of the ankle.)

I'm not saying my mum's clumsy or reckless or anything, but...

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 14:02:31
Message: <48dbd237@news.povray.org>
>> 1. You sharpened the blade? I've never seen anybody do that, ever.
> 
> Its a good thing to do occasionally. This way it cleanly cuts the grass, 
> rather than shredding it.

Oh, OK. I just assumed it was impossible for a mower to work well...

>> 2. The mower isn't electric?
> 
> There's electric mowers? I'd be a bit paranoid about running over the cord.

The cord is neon orange for a very good reason. In all my years of being 
alive, I have almost never seen a petrol mower (except the big 
industrial ones for mowing parks and greens and such). I have also never 
seen anybody actually cut their power cord while mowing either.

When was the last time you ran your vacuum cleaner over the power cord? 
Or is that petrol-powered too? ;-)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 15:24:03
Message: <48dbe553$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Heh. My mum screwed me and my sister to a plank of wood...
> 
> I would like the record to show the following:
> 
>   This experience was rather painful for both my sister and me. When my 
> mum realised what was going on, she immediately tried to put the drill 
> into reverse drive.
> 
>   Unfortunately, she put the drill into hammar action instead.
> 
>   This not only tightened the screws even further, but also hammars our 
> fingers.
> 

Again, let me reiterate what I said *your mother should never be allowed 
near power tool again. Ever.* Holy crap!

>   Finally she found reverse, releasing my sister, who she then rushed 
> indoors and put her fingers under the cold tap. I, however, was still 
> trapped. I can vividly remember my sister's pained expression as she 
> looked up from the sink and saw me still trapped.
> 
>   And laughed at me! >:-[
> 
>   She didn't, like, *tell* mum I was still trapped or anything. She just 
> took there and laughed at me through the kitchen window.
> 
>   Damnit.
> 

Its a wonder you came out as close to 'normal' as you did, and didn't go 
all Ted Bundy.

>> Your mother should never ever be allowed near power tools again. Ever.
> 
> Well, that used to be her _job_...
> 
> [Which is why she even owns power tools. She certainly didn't *buy* them 
> herself!]
> 

Good gods ... someone paid her to use power tools? 0,o Be very afraid ...
-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 15:25:45
Message: <48dbe5b9$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> m_a_r_c wrote:
> 
>> And you tell there  are scary people here?
> 
> That's not scary - just incompetent.
> 
> There's also the time she walked into a concrete bollard and went 
> face-first into the pavement.
> 
> Or the time she stepped backwards down a small half-step and twisted her 
> ankle.
> 
> Or the time she accidentally amputated her entire fingernail because she 
> couldn't be bothered to use the safety guard on the new vegatable slicer 
> she bought.
> 
> Or the time she took skiing lessons and twisted her angle. (My mate 
> who's a ski race coach tells me this is physically impossible since the 
> boots prohibit the movement of the ankle.)
> 
> I'm not saying my mum's clumsy or reckless or anything, but...
> 

Seriously. Take all the power tools, sharp objects, heck anything that's 
not soft and padded, lock it up and throw away the key. I'm shocked you 
(your sister and your mother) have managed to survive at all!

-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 15:27:08
Message: <48dbe60c$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> 
> When was the last time you ran your vacuum cleaner over the power cord? 
> Or is that petrol-powered too? ;-)
> 

Just the other day, as a matter of fact. :)

And no, not gasoline powered. Electric is already loud enough. :)

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~Mike


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 15:57:15
Message: <48dbed1b@news.povray.org>
>> When was the last time you ran your vacuum cleaner over the power 
>> cord? Or is that petrol-powered too? ;-)
> 
> Just the other day, as a matter of fact. :)

Really?

Hmm, ours has a spinning brush on the underside. The one time somebody 
run over the cable, it chewed up the insulation on it. :-/

> And no, not gasoline powered. Electric is already loud enough. :)

Heh. Just imagine, a petrol-powered vacuum cleaner... Surely your house 
would end up more dirty than when you started! :-D

-- 
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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 15:58:21
Message: <48dbed5d$1@news.povray.org>
>> I'm not saying my mum's clumsy or reckless or anything, but...
> 
> Seriously. Take all the power tools, sharp objects, heck anything that's 
> not soft and padded, lock it up and throw away the key. I'm shocked you 
> (your sister and your mother) have managed to survive at all!

Tell me about it!! o_O

Should I even tell you about when my mum and dad first brought me home 
from hospital, and it took them 4 hours to figure out why I wouldn't 
stop crying?

-- 
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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 16:00:10
Message: <48dbedca$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> Again, let me reiterate what I said *your mother should never be allowed 
> near power tool again. Ever.* Holy crap!

It was like a scene from a badly scripted sitcom. Except... real. o_O

> Its a wonder you came out as close to 'normal' as you did, and didn't go 
> all Ted Bundy.

Uh.......

>>> Your mother should never ever be allowed near power tools again. Ever.
>>
>> Well, that used to be her _job_...
>>
>> [Which is why she even owns power tools. She certainly didn't *buy* 
>> them herself!]
> 
> Good gods ... someone paid her to use power tools? 0,o Be very afraid ...

Yes. British Telecom used to pay her to go round people's houses and 
wire up their telephones. Obviously, this involves drilling holes 
through walls and climbing ladders to each overhead cables. Not to 
mention the climbing through trees and driving to deserted farmer's 
fields in a large Ford Transit...

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 16:07:16
Message: <0prnd4dd068bichsucnbdr9crfju5u9ocj@4ax.com>
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:02:35 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>The cord is neon orange for a very good reason. 

So that you can see the cord you just cut in half?

>When was the last time you ran your vacuum cleaner over the power cord? 
>Or is that petrol-powered too? ;-)

A gas powered vacuum would be awesome.


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 16:26:20
Message: <48dbf3ec@news.povray.org>
"Kyle" <hob### [at] gatenet> a écrit dans le message de news: 
0prnd4dd068bichsucnbdr9crfju5u9ocj@4ax.com...
>
> A gas powered vacuum would be awesome.
>
Steam and coal  as in Wild wild West

Marc


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 17:59:06
Message: <48dc09aa$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:58:27 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Should I even tell you about when my mum and dad first brought me home
> from hospital, and it took them 4 hours to figure out why I wouldn't
> stop crying?

Well, I'm sure the instruction manual you were delivered with didn't 
cover it. ;-)

(As I've said before, babies don't come with instruction 
manuals.....parents just do the best they can with what they've got....)

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 25 Sep 2008 18:29:32
Message: <48dc10cc$1@news.povray.org>
m_a_r_c wrote:
> With electric mowers, the 1st thing you're likely to cut is the power cord 
> but before you have to slaughter flower beds  with it and mess it between 
> trees and shrubs  :-)

This is my dad's mower. Seriously. "Wolf" is a friend of mine describing 
it, and every word is true.

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=131059&postcount=311

-- 
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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 02:40:24
Message: <48dc83d8$1@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
48dc10cc$1@news.povray.org...
> m_a_r_c wrote:
>> With electric mowers, the 1st thing you're likely to cut is the power 
>> cord but before you have to slaughter flower beds  with it and mess it 
>> between trees and shrubs  :-)
>
> This is my dad's mower. Seriously. "Wolf" is a friend of mine describing 
> it, and every word is true.
>
> http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=131059&postcount=311
>
> -- 
Arghhhh !


Marc


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 03:53:38
Message: <48dc9502@news.povray.org>
> I hope I and my ASCII are understandable...

Marginally more understandable I suspect than if you had talked about 
torques in 3D ;-)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 04:03:17
Message: <48dc9745$1@news.povray.org>
> The cord is neon orange for a very good reason. In all my years of being 
> alive, I have almost never seen a petrol mower

Petrol lawn mowers, as well as not needing a cable, are usually much more 
powerful, so you can charge through quite long wet grass that likely would 
block up an electric one.

> I have also never seen anybody actually cut their power cord while mowing 
> either.

A friend of ours borrowed our electric hedge cutter, she cut through cord. 
Then she borrowed it again, and we joked to her about not cutting through it 
again.  Of course she cut through it *again*.  She can go and buy her own 
one now.

> When was the last time you ran your vacuum cleaner over the power cord?

Erm, the whole time actually, but the consequences aren't nearly as bad, 
plus it's a pain in the ass having to rearrange the cable and keep 
plug/unplugging it the whole time as you move around the house, getting it 
tangled around chairs/tables etc.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 04:04:55
Message: <48dc97a7$1@news.povray.org>
> Hmm, ours has a spinning brush on the underside. The one time somebody run 
> over the cable, it chewed up the insulation on it. :-/

Oh, mine doesn't have the spinny brush bit on the main unit, only at the end 
of the pipe.

>> And no, not gasoline powered. Electric is already loud enough. :)
>
> Heh. Just imagine, a petrol-powered vacuum cleaner... Surely your house 
> would end up more dirty than when you started! :-D

Nah, you just store the exhaust on-board in a canister, then dispose of it 
once it's full.  Or have the engine part outside, and a long pipe :-)


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 04:22:15
Message: <48dc9bb7$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Heh. My mum screwed me and my sister to a plank of wood...
> 
> I would like the record to show the following:
> 
>   This experience was rather painful for both my sister and me. When my 
> mum realised what was going on, she immediately tried to put the drill 
> into reverse drive.
> 

Ok. So what on Earth was the meaning of that experiment? :O

-- 
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    http://www.zbxt.net
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 04:23:09
Message: <48dc9bed$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> (As I've said before, babies don't come with instruction 
> manuals.....parents just do the best they can with what they've got....)

Fortunately, babies don't come with a warranty either. Cos my parents 
would have taken me back as "damaged goods". o_O


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 04:24:32
Message: <48dc9c40$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> I hope I and my ASCII are understandable...
> 
> Marginally more understandable I suspect than if you had talked about 
> torques in 3D ;-)
> 
> 

I actually started thinking that maybe I should trace the situation (and 
reveal the code), 'cause it would be easier to understand ;).

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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 04:25:11
Message: <48dc9c67$1@news.povray.org>
>> Hmm, ours has a spinning brush on the underside. The one time somebody 
>> run over the cable, it chewed up the insulation on it. :-/
> 
> Oh, mine doesn't have the spinny brush bit on the main unit, only at the 
> end of the pipe.

They call it a "beater bar", apparently. These's a little switch to 
deactivate it. (It's actually just a lever that pulls the drive belt 
tight or slack.)

>> Heh. Just imagine, a petrol-powered vacuum cleaner... Surely your 
>> house would end up more dirty than when you started! :-D
> 
> Nah, you just store the exhaust on-board in a canister, then dispose of 
> it once it's full.

The laws of thermodynamics seem to suggest this wouldn't work too well...

> Or have the engine part outside, and a long pipe :-)

Apparently that's how the first vacuum cleaners worked...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 04:30:03
Message: <48dc9d8b$1@news.povray.org>
>>>> Heh. My mum screwed me and my sister to a plank of wood...
>>
>> I would like the record to show the following:
>>
>>   This experience was rather painful for both my sister and me. When 
>> my mum realised what was going on, she immediately tried to put the 
>> drill into reverse drive.
>>
> 
> Ok. So what on Earth was the meaning of that experiment? :O

She was actually trying to screw a wooden frame together, but the weight 
of it kept making it twist, so she got me and my sister to hold it still 
while she did the screws up with an electric drill.

Unfortunately, the only possible way to hold it still... was... to put 
your fingers in the way...?


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 07:37:59
Message: <48dcc997$1@news.povray.org>
> They call it a "beater bar", apparently. These's a little switch to 
> deactivate it. (It's actually just a lever that pulls the drive belt tight 
> or slack.)

Yep, it's the bit that gets all the hairs tangled around it making it hard 
to turn ;-)  On mine the beater bar is powered by the air-flow, because it's 
at the end of the pipe.

> The laws of thermodynamics seem to suggest this wouldn't work too well...

Use a balloon stretched over the exhaust pipe then :-)


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 09:34:09
Message: <48dce4d1$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Fortunately, babies don't come with a warranty either. Cos my parents 
> would have taken me back as "damaged goods". o_O

The warranty would only cover manufacturer defects anyway. Damages 
caused by, say, accidentally screwing you to a board wouldn't be covered 
by the warranty :)

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 09:42:43
Message: <48dce6d3$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> The warranty would only cover manufacturer defects anyway. Damages 
> caused by, say, accidentally screwing you to a board wouldn't be covered 
> by the warranty :)

LMAO!

Thanks for that... :-)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 12:40:34
Message: <48dd1082$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> Nah, you just store the exhaust on-board in a canister, then dispose of 
> it once it's full.  Or have the engine part outside, and a long pipe :-)

No, you store the canister and engine outside, and just use a really 
long hose.

http://home.howstuffworks.com/central-vacuum.htm

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 17:51:35
Message: <48dd5967@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> That's not scary - just incompetent.
> 
> There's also the time she walked into a concrete bollard and went
> face-first into the pavement.
> 
> Or the time she stepped backwards down a small half-step and twisted her
> ankle.
> 
> Or the time she accidentally amputated her entire fingernail because she
> couldn't be bothered to use the safety guard on the new vegatable slicer
> she bought.
> 
> Or the time she took skiing lessons and twisted her angle. (My mate
> who's a ski race coach tells me this is physically impossible since the
> boots prohibit the movement of the ankle.)
> 
> I'm not saying my mum's clumsy or reckless or anything, but...

Your mom should be kept as far from power tools as Ethan.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 17:53:49
Message: <48dd59ed@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Some ASCII-art, seen from top, "b" is bolt, g is
> grabbing-place of wrench

What are you doing posting ASCII art on *this* newsgroup, when you could be
posting a raytraced image? :)


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 17:54:15
Message: <48dd5a07@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> I actually started thinking that maybe I should trace the situation (and
> reveal the code), 'cause it would be easier to understand ;).

Maybe I posted my previous message too soon (= before reading this one).


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 17:58:15
Message: <48dd5af6@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:02:35 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> 
>>The cord is neon orange for a very good reason.
> 
> So that you can see the cord you just cut in half?

LOL


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 19:53:39
Message: <48dd7603@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> She was actually trying to screw a wooden frame together, but the weight 
> of it kept making it twist, so she got me and my sister to hold it still 
> while she did the screws up with an electric drill.
> 
> Unfortunately, the only possible way to hold it still... was... to put 
> your fingers in the way...?

Nnnnnnnice.

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
       aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 26 Sep 2008 19:54:56
Message: <48dd7650@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> 
> What are you doing posting ASCII art on *this* newsgroup, when you could be
> posting a raytraced image? :)
> 

Because it's povray.*off-topic*.

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
       aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 27 Sep 2008 04:43:10
Message: <48ddf21e$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> Your mom should be kept as far from power tools as Ethan.

Heh, that's a little unfair...




...Ethan built a sentient Xbox! ;-)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 27 Sep 2008 18:30:53
Message: <48deb41d@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> 
>> What are you doing posting ASCII art on *this* newsgroup, when you could
>> be posting a raytraced image? :)
>> 
> 
> Because it's povray.*off-topic*.
> 

Heh, fair enough :)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 27 Sep 2008 22:45:05
Message: <48deefb1$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:23:09 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> (As I've said before, babies don't come with instruction
>> manuals.....parents just do the best they can with what they've
>> got....)
> 
> Fortunately, babies don't come with a warranty either. Cos my parents
> would have taken me back as "damaged goods". o_O

Nah, I'd doubt that....

Jim


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Women and Hammers
Date: 29 Sep 2008 08:52:59
Message: <48e0cfab@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

>> Unfortunately, the only possible way to hold it still... was... to put 
>> your fingers in the way...?
> 
> Nnnnnnnice.
> 

Clamps are a wonderful thing.

-- 
~Mike


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