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From: Invisible
Subject: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 10:53:37
Message: <48bd5371@news.povray.org>
Parametric polymorphism, I choose you!

Now polymorph, type-safe high-order function attack!

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 11:13:26
Message: <48bd5816@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Parametric polymorphism, I choose you!

> Now polymorph, type-safe high-order function attack!

  Would that be the generic programming trading cards, anime, or computer
games? Have you collected them all?

  Although at your age... sheesh. The target audience of those paradigms
is really preteen children, you know.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 11:18:58
Message: <48bd5962$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Would that be the generic programming trading cards, anime, or computer
> games? Have you collected them all?
> 
>   Although at your age... sheesh. The target audience of those paradigms
> is really preteen children, you know.

Should I admit to owning the Pokemon Trainer's Handbook? Nah, I guess 
that would be a bit sad...

What can I say? It was the least boring thing on TV. Later they added 
Yu-gi-oh, which was generally more interesting. (Hmm, I'm not really 
helping my case here, am I?)

-- 
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 11:20:25
Message: <48bd59b9$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Parametric polymorphism, I choose you!
> 
> Now polymorph, type-safe high-order function attack!
> 
Quick! Dried frog pills, now!!

John

-- 
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 13:19:49
Message: <48bd75b5@news.povray.org>
Doctor John wrote:

> Quick! Dried frog pills, now!!

"A hallucinogen, used by the Bursar of Unseen University. The pills are 
carefully designed to make him hallucinate that he is sane. The main 
side-effect is that he also hallucinates an ability to fly. Fortunately 
the Bursar is a wizard and the only action necessary to deal with this 
belief is to keep him from going higher than the walls."

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 13:49:30
Message: <48bd7caa@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Should I admit to owning the Pokemon Trainer's Handbook? Nah, I guess 
> that would be a bit sad...

http://warp.povusers.org/images/aybabtu.jpg

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 14:27:42
Message: <48bd859e$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Should I admit to owning the Pokemon Trainer's Handbook? Nah, I guess 
> that would be a bit sad...

Very ...

> What can I say? It was the least boring thing on TV. Later they added 
> Yu-gi-oh, which was generally more interesting. (Hmm, I'm not really 
> helping my case here, am I?)

I saw yu-gi-oh or some such (I think it was at least) for a brief few 
minutes while flipping channels one day. All it seemed to be was a big 
ad for the trading card game "My such and such tempest dragon whizbang 
has 42 hit points, 80 attach points, and 30 defense points and can beat 
the snot out of your overdeveloped domestic cat"


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 14:33:39
Message: <48bd8703$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> I saw yu-gi-oh or some such (I think it was at least) for a brief few 
> minutes while flipping channels one day. All it seemed to be was a big 
> ad for the trading card game "My such and such tempest dragon whizbang 
> has 42 hit points, 80 attach points, and 30 defense points and can beat 
> the snot out of your overdeveloped domestic cat"

...which is amusing, since (AFAIK) the cards featured aren't actually on 
sale anywhere. (There's a Bash.org quote about this, but I can't find it 
right now since the site is still down.)

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 15:31:32
Message: <48BD94D9.7040400@hotmail.com>
On 02-Sep-08 19:19, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Doctor John wrote:
> 
>> Quick! Dried frog pills, now!!
> 
> "A hallucinogen, used by the Bursar of Unseen University. The pills are 
> carefully designed to make him hallucinate that he is sane. The main 
> side-effect is that he also hallucinates an ability to fly. Fortunately 
> the Bursar is a wizard and the only action necessary to deal with this 
> belief is to keep him from going higher than the walls."
> 
thanks, but I think I knew that ;)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 16:58:48
Message: <48bda908$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

> thanks, but I think I knew that ;)

Hell *I* didn't.

And reading it, you start wondering if whoever came up with it should 
maybe start taking something... o_O

-- 
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 17:10:30
Message: <48bdabc6$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:26 -0400, Warp wrote:

> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Parametric polymorphism, I choose you!
> 
>> Now polymorph, type-safe high-order function attack!
> 
>   Would that be the generic programming trading cards, anime, or
>   computer
> games? Have you collected them all?
> 
>   Although at your age... sheesh. The target audience of those paradigms
> is really preteen children, you know.

Oh, christ, you mean you NEVER do silly things?  Ever?

Give Andy a break.  Why do you feel it is your duty to attack him when he 
does something silly?

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 17:25:18
Message: <48bdaf3e@news.povray.org>
"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:48bd859e$1@news.povray.org...
> Invisible wrote:
>> Should I admit to owning the Pokemon Trainer's Handbook? Nah, I guess 
>> that would be a bit sad...
>
> Very ...
>
>> What can I say? It was the least boring thing on TV. Later they added 
>> Yu-gi-oh, which was generally more interesting. (Hmm, I'm not really 
>> helping my case here, am I?)
>
> I saw yu-gi-oh or some such (I think it was at least) for a brief few 
> minutes while flipping channels one day. All it seemed to be was a big ad 
> for the trading card game "My such and such tempest dragon whizbang has 42 
> hit points, 80 attach points, and 30 defense points and can beat the snot 
> out of your overdeveloped domestic cat"


 Had to LOL at that... :)

     ~Steve~


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 17:39:46
Message: <48bdb2a2$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
news:48bdabc6$1@news.povray.org...
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:26 -0400, Warp wrote:
>
>> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Parametric polymorphism, I choose you!
>>
>>> Now polymorph, type-safe high-order function attack!
>>
>>   Would that be the generic programming trading cards, anime, or
>>   computer
>> games? Have you collected them all?
>>
>>   Although at your age... sheesh. The target audience of those paradigms
>> is really preteen children, you know.
>
> Oh, christ, you mean you NEVER do silly things?  Ever?
>
> Give Andy a break.  Why do you feel it is your duty to attack him when he
> does something silly?

     Jim, with our vast knowledge around here in all types of lifestyles, 
let Warp have his opinion.

     We've all done silly things, and I'm no exception. I've done my fair 
share for sure. But it's like Andrew *needs* to listen to others' thoughts 
and experiences?

      That's all.

          ~Steve~


>
> Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 18:17:40
Message: <48bdbb84@news.povray.org>
St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
> news:48bdabc6$1@news.povray.org...
> > On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:26 -0400, Warp wrote:
> >
> >> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >>> Parametric polymorphism, I choose you!
> >>
> >>> Now polymorph, type-safe high-order function attack!
> >>
> >>   Would that be the generic programming trading cards, anime, or
> >>   computer
> >> games? Have you collected them all?
> >>
> >>   Although at your age... sheesh. The target audience of those paradigms
> >> is really preteen children, you know.
> >
> > Oh, christ, you mean you NEVER do silly things?  Ever?
> >
> > Give Andy a break.  Why do you feel it is your duty to attack him when he
> > does something silly?

>      Jim, with our vast knowledge around here in all types of lifestyles, 
> let Warp have his opinion.

>      We've all done silly things, and I'm no exception. I've done my fair 
> share for sure. But it's like Andrew *needs* to listen to others' thoughts 
> and experiences?

  Now I'm *completely* puzzled. How on earth could my response be anything
else than a humorous response in the same spirit as the original post? :-o

  Do you really think I wrote things like "generic programming trading
cards" as some kind of reproach or attack, rather than a joke?

  I knew that people will always interpret things in the worst possible way,
but this is just ridiculous.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 2 Sep 2008 18:37:25
Message: <48bdc025$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
news:48bdbb84@news.povray.org...
> St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>
>> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
>> news:48bdabc6$1@news.povray.org...
>> > On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:26 -0400, Warp wrote:
>> >
>> >> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> >>> Parametric polymorphism, I choose you!
>> >>
>> >>> Now polymorph, type-safe high-order function attack!
>> >>
>> >>   Would that be the generic programming trading cards, anime, or
>> >>   computer
>> >> games? Have you collected them all?
>> >>
>> >>   Although at your age... sheesh. The target audience of those 
>> >> paradigms
>> >> is really preteen children, you know.
>> >
>> > Oh, christ, you mean you NEVER do silly things?  Ever?
>> >
>> > Give Andy a break.  Why do you feel it is your duty to attack him when 
>> > he
>> > does something silly?
>
>>      Jim, with our vast knowledge around here in all types of lifestyles,
>> let Warp have his opinion.
>
>>      We've all done silly things, and I'm no exception. I've done my fair
>> share for sure. But it's like Andrew *needs* to listen to others' 
>> thoughts
>> and experiences?
>
>  Now I'm *completely* puzzled. How on earth could my response be anything
> else than a humorous response in the same spirit as the original post? :-o
>
>  Do you really think I wrote things like "generic programming trading
> cards" as some kind of reproach or attack, rather than a joke?
>
>  I knew that people will always interpret things in the worst possible 
> way,
> but this is just ridiculous.


       You posted a link? Cool. I didn't know that because I didn't read the 
whole thread. Damn me. I assumed Jim was replying to one of your many 
putdowns of various people around here, (including myself now), heh... ;)

  I should just butt out and let you misfits get on with it for my enjoyable 
reading.

    <lesson #145,632 learnt>

    ~Steve~



>
> -- 
>                                                          - Warp


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 14:06:21
Message: <48bed21d@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> And reading it, you start wondering if whoever came up with it should 
> maybe start taking something... o_O
> 

Well, Terry Pratchett created the complete Disc World (Disciverse?) 
...and as for taking something, I understand that he was recently 
diagnosed as suffering from early Alzheimer's :-( so he is probably 
taking something for that.
Anyhow, surely Stephen, St, Phil Cook and myself have mentioned Dried 
Frog Pills often enough in this outpost of Unseen Uni? (Not to mention 
Klatchian Spirit Weed)

John

-- 
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 16:56:49
Message: <48befa11$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:17:40 -0400, Warp wrote:

> St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> 
>> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
>> news:48bdabc6$1@news.povray.org...
>> > On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:13:26 -0400, Warp wrote:
>> >
>> >> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> >>> Parametric polymorphism, I choose you!
>> >>
>> >>> Now polymorph, type-safe high-order function attack!
>> >>
>> >>   Would that be the generic programming trading cards, anime, or
>> >>   computer
>> >> games? Have you collected them all?
>> >>
>> >>   Although at your age... sheesh. The target audience of those
>> >>   paradigms
>> >> is really preteen children, you know.
>> >
>> > Oh, christ, you mean you NEVER do silly things?  Ever?
>> >
>> > Give Andy a break.  Why do you feel it is your duty to attack him
>> > when he does something silly?
> 
>>      Jim, with our vast knowledge around here in all types of
>>      lifestyles,
>> let Warp have his opinion.
> 
>>      We've all done silly things, and I'm no exception. I've done my
>>      fair
>> share for sure. But it's like Andrew *needs* to listen to others'
>> thoughts and experiences?
> 
>   Now I'm *completely* puzzled. How on earth could my response be
>   anything
> else than a humorous response in the same spirit as the original post?
> :-o
> 
>   Do you really think I wrote things like "generic programming trading
> cards" as some kind of reproach or attack, rather than a joke?
> 
>   I knew that people will always interpret things in the worst possible
>   way,
> but this is just ridiculous.

"At your age, sheesh...." is what I was responding to.  And I was having 
a bad day, apologies all around if I read it wrong.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 16:59:11
Message: <48befa9f$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:39:38 +0100, St. wrote:

>  Jim, with our vast knowledge around here in all types of lifestyles,
> let Warp have his opinion.

It wasn't the opinion, it was the "at your age?" comment.  I grew up 
around people who behaved like that, and it ticks me off when I see 
someone "picking" on others.  I was the target of that a lot growing up, 
and it pushes ALL of my buttons when I see it happening.

That type of comment comes across - to me - as coming from someone who 
has to make themselves feel superior by putting others down.

Warp, if that wasn't your intention, my sincerest apologies.  It sure 
looked that way to me - not a question of reading things "in the worst 
possible light" - I just can't see a "best possible light" to read that 
comment in, even in context.

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 17:13:05
Message: <48befde1$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
news:48befa9f$1@news.povray.org...
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:39:38 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>>  Jim, with our vast knowledge around here in all types of lifestyles,
>> let Warp have his opinion.
>
> It wasn't the opinion, it was the "at your age?" comment.  I grew up
> around people who behaved like that, and it ticks me off when I see
> someone "picking" on others.  I was the target of that a lot growing up,
> and it pushes ALL of my buttons when I see it happening.

 Heh, YOU are ME, and I am YOU!

  That was my life too. Still is unfortunately. :o/

   I wish I could switch the world off like a light.

    ~Steve~





> Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 17:42:15
Message: <48bf04b7$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:12:56 +0100, St. wrote:

> Heh, YOU are ME, and I am YOU!
> 
>   That was my life too. Still is unfortunately. :o/

There are days it feels that way as well, but it helps for me that I 
moved about 1500 miles away from my tormentors, got married, raised a kid 
(well, for the last 12 of his nearly 21 years now), and became 
successful.  Now when people try to bully me, I just laugh at 'em.  Had 
one guy who tried to bully me (even threatened a lawsuit) and tried to 
impress me with his experience "in his field".

I just laughed.  I didn't even point out the books I've published or 
other accomplishments I had that far exceeded his self-proclaimed 
achievement.  Not worth the time.

Some say that being successful is the best revenge.  I have to agree with 
that....I look at some of my classmates - many of whom were my tormentors 
- and they haven't done so well.  I'll admit to a little schadenfreude 
about it now and then, but generally, I don't even think about it.

>    I wish I could switch the world off like a light.

Even still, there are days.  The last couple of weeks have been pretty 
rough for me....

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 18:02:23
Message: <48bf096f@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> "At your age, sheesh...." is what I was responding to.  And I was having 
> a bad day, apologies all around if I read it wrong.

  It was a joke. I was just continuing the pokemon references.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 18:03:49
Message: <48bf09c5@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Warp, if that wasn't your intention, my sincerest apologies.  It sure 
> looked that way to me - not a question of reading things "in the worst 
> possible light" - I just can't see a "best possible light" to read that 
> comment in, even in context.

  Maybe you didn't get the pokemon references in the original post and
my reply to it? I was just continuing the joke.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 18:07:05
Message: <48bf0a89@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
>    I wish I could switch the world off like a light.

Oh, that's easy. It's switching it back on again afterwards that is 
really difficult.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 3 Sep 2008 18:20:33
Message: <48bf0db1$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
news:48bf04b7$1@news.povray.org...
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:12:56 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>> Heh, YOU are ME, and I am YOU!
>>
>>   That was my life too. Still is unfortunately. :o/
>
> There are days it feels that way as well, but it helps for me that I
> moved about 1500 miles away from my tormentors, got married, raised a kid
> (well, for the last 12 of his nearly 21 years now), and became
> successful.  Now when people try to bully me, I just laugh at 'em.  Had
> one guy who tried to bully me (even threatened a lawsuit) and tried to
> impress me with his experience "in his field".
>
> I just laughed.  I didn't even point out the books I've published or
> other accomplishments I had that far exceeded his self-proclaimed
> achievement.  Not worth the time.

     I know what you're saying. I understand and I'm the same. I've done 
some things that could be recognised but even in this group, I wouldn't say 
what it was that I did in a newsgroup. It's nothing sensational that I feel 
should be said, but I do feel priveledged to have done it. And that puts a 
smile on my face.  :)

   It's my only real accomplishment in this world.



>
> Some say that being successful is the best revenge.  I have to agree with
> that....I look at some of my classmates - many of whom were my tormentors
> - and they haven't done so well.  I'll admit to a little schadenfreude
> about it now and then, but generally, I don't even think about it.
>
>>    I wish I could switch the world off like a light.
>
> Even still, there are days.

    True.

 The last couple of weeks have been pretty
> rough for me....

   I feel for you Jim, because, trust me, I DO understand. The last eight 
years for me have somewhat aged me beyond my years. (Well, you might not 
think so if you looked at me, but inside, I don't feel good anymore, and 
feel really 'old').

    ~Steve~



>
> Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 4 Sep 2008 15:29:16
Message: <48c0370c$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:02:23 -0400, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> "At your age, sheesh...." is what I was responding to.  And I was
>> having a bad day, apologies all around if I read it wrong.
> 
>   It was a joke. I was just continuing the pokemon references.

Oh, not having played around with it myself, it went right over my head.  
My most sincere apologies. :-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Very silly
Date: 4 Sep 2008 15:36:17
Message: <48c038b1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:20:23 +0100, St. wrote:

>> I just laughed.  I didn't even point out the books I've published or
>> other accomplishments I had that far exceeded his self-proclaimed
>> achievement.  Not worth the time.
> 
>      I know what you're saying. I understand and I'm the same. I've done
> some things that could be recognised but even in this group, I wouldn't
> say what it was that I did in a newsgroup. It's nothing sensational that
> I feel should be said, but I do feel priveledged to have done it. And
> that puts a smile on my face.  :)
> 
>    It's my only real accomplishment in this world.

That's the best way, I think, isn't it?  It's nice to be able to walk 
into a room where nobody knows me (some of the stuff I've done has given 
me a sort of "celebrity" status in some circles, but outside those 
circles I'm virtually unknown - most common comment people outside those 
circles make to me is some sort of joke about me being "the Muppet guy", 
as if I'd never heard *that* before) and just blend in.

I've never thought I knew anything really special - I just followed an 
interest and grasped concepts which seemed really simple to me.  Then I 
co-wrote a couple books about it because a friend of mine thought I could 
contribute to the project he was starting.

But when it comes right down to it, I feel the same way about what I've 
done as you talked about up there ^^^^.

>  The last couple of weeks have been pretty
>> rough for me....
> 
>    I feel for you Jim, because, trust me, I DO understand. The last
>    eight
> years for me have somewhat aged me beyond my years. (Well, you might not
> think so if you looked at me, but inside, I don't feel good anymore, and
> feel really 'old').

A very good friend of mine in the UK is fond of saying "it ain't the 
years, it's the miles".  Oddly, he's one who - while maybe 10-15 years 
older than me - exudes a wisdom that feels like it's hundreds or 
thousands of years old.

Jim


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