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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 08:01:40
Message: <4896efa4$1@news.povray.org>
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I must be the only one out there that desires the address bar in the
task bar. I've had this in my task bar since FREAKING WINDOWS 98 ffs!
Now I install XP SP3 Which the MS update shoveler presented to me, and
now (Guess what!?) MY F***ING ADDRESS BAR IS GONE. I can't get it to
show up. A quick google indicates that it was removed because of (wait
for it) a court settlement. FU COURTS! Thanks to you I'll be returning
to SP2, never to install SP3 again. I suppose I could upgrade to Windows
Vista on my work machine, which would give me my (precious) address bar
back.
This is the single most convenient feature in the world for me. It
drives me nuts when there isn't one. I miss my address bar..
Back to SP2 for me.
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From: Rafal
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 08:45:28
Message: <4896f9e8@news.povray.org>
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> I suppose I could upgrade to Windows Vista
No one can do that, afaik.
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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 09:24:10
Message: <489702fa@news.povray.org>
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Rafal wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>
>> I suppose I could upgrade to Windows Vista
>
> No one can do that, afaik.
>
Huh? Why?
I did an upgrade from XP to Vista on my home system ... Went flawlessly
except for the lack of drivers for an ancient scanner, and some software
which had drivers, but the companies rather than provide an update to an
existing version with Vista compatible drivers forced you into buying a
new version of their broken software ...
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 09:45:02
Message: <489707de@news.povray.org>
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Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
> I must be the only one out there that desires the address bar in the
> task bar.
What address bar?
--
- Warp
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From: TC
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 09:54:12
Message: <48970a04@news.povray.org>
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Yes, in theory - you can do this.
In practice - to say it with Dante - abandon every hope, ye who enter here.
I'd suggest you try to get hold of a test-version, try to install it, look
at it, and then, in all probability, trash it.
"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmail com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:489702fa@news.povray.org...
> Rafal wrote:
>> Mike Raiford wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose I could upgrade to Windows Vista
>>
>> No one can do that, afaik.
>>
>
> Huh? Why?
>
> I did an upgrade from XP to Vista on my home system ... Went flawlessly
> except for the lack of drivers for an ancient scanner, and some software
> which had drivers, but the companies rather than provide an update to an
> existing version with Vista compatible drivers forced you into buying a
> new version of their broken software ...
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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 12:00:10
Message: <4897278a$1@news.povray.org>
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Warp wrote:
> Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
>> I must be the only one out there that desires the address bar in the
>> task bar.
>
> What address bar?
>
The one in the attached image. Type in a folder name, you open the
folder, type in a web address, you get a browser window with that
address (in your default browser) type the name of an executable, run
that program. I like it. It also has a nice history feature, so I can
usually bring up what I ran or opened previously with a few keystrokes. :)
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 12:20:41
Message: <48972c59@news.povray.org>
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Warp wrote:
> What address bar?
I assume he means the one you get if you right-click in the task bar,
and pick "tool bars->address". :-)
This was kind of like what I was saying elsewhere about why MS doesn't
include their own versions of free GNU software with the OS. Because it
gets you sued.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 12:52:53
Message: <489733e5@news.povray.org>
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> This was kind of like what I was saying elsewhere about why MS doesn't
> include their own versions of free GNU software with the OS. Because it
> gets you sued.
Hmm, the GPL license doesn't prohibit distributing GPL software bundled
with a commercial system. (It only requires you to provide the source code
of the GPL software if requested.)
--
- Warp
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 14:06:09
Message: <48974511$1@news.povray.org>
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Warp wrote:
> Hmm, the GPL license doesn't prohibit distributing GPL software bundled
> with a commercial system.
Why would that stop you from suing Microsoft about it?
Heck, they made their own implementation of the desktop and got sued
over that.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 15:12:41
Message: <489754a9@news.povray.org>
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Hmm, the GPL license doesn't prohibit distributing GPL software bundled
> > with a commercial system.
> Why would that stop you from suing Microsoft about it?
On what grounds? Lawsuits don't even get through if they don't make
any sense.
--
- Warp
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 15:21:59
Message: <489756d7$1@news.povray.org>
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:12:41 -0400, Warp wrote:
> On what grounds? Lawsuits don't even get through if they don't make
> any sense.
Maybe in Finland, but not in America. There are plenty of frivolous
lawsuits over here that get through even though they don't make sense.
Jim
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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 15:25:45
Message: <489757b9$1@news.povray.org>
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Warp wrote:
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> On what grounds? Lawsuits don't even get through if they don't make
> any sense.
>
You've read the other thread discussing tort lawsuits, right? Seems like
if you hire the right lawyer, you can strike it rich in the U.S. legal
system no matter how little sense the suit makes.
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 16:00:42
Message: <48975fea$1@news.povray.org>
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>> Hmm, the GPL license doesn't prohibit distributing GPL software bundled
>>> with a commercial system.
>
>> Why would that stop you from suing Microsoft about it?
>
> On what grounds? Lawsuits don't even get through if they don't make
> any sense.
They still cost money, tho. At least in many countries. And what's the
upside for Microsoft? Now the people who think Microsoft is evil can
use Windows more easily to stop buying Microsoft products?
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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From: St
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 4 Aug 2008 16:18:04
Message: <489763fc$1@news.povray.org>
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"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmail com> wrote in message
news:489757b9$1@news.povray.org...
> Warp wrote:
>>
>> On what grounds? Lawsuits don't even get through if they don't make
>> any sense.
>>
>
> You've read the other thread discussing tort lawsuits, right? Seems like
> if you hire the right lawyer, you can strike it rich in the U.S. legal
> system no matter how little sense the suit makes.
I NEED one of those lawyers! Where can I find one?! I need to be rich
to pay my present, (crap) lawyer!
;)
~Steve~
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From: Rafal
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 5 Aug 2008 03:20:55
Message: <4897ff57@news.povray.org>
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Mike Raiford wrote:
>>> I suppose I could upgrade to Windows Vista
>> No one can do that, afaik.
> Huh? Why?
Well, one could /downgrade/ to VISTA.
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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 5 Aug 2008 07:56:18
Message: <48983fe2$1@news.povray.org>
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Rafal wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>
>>>> I suppose I could upgrade to Windows Vista
>>> No one can do that, afaik.
>> Huh? Why?
>
> Well, one could /downgrade/ to VISTA.
>
Ehh.. Vista's worked pretty well at home. I have to admit I do like some
of the new features introduced to the shell. Though one thing that threw
me off was the fact that any new game installed on Vista that has been
written for Vista does not install in the start menu like everything
else. It gets installed in a special "virtual folder" called Games.
(Which is sort of neat, it gives ESRB ratings, your machine's rating
alongside the game's minimum and recommended ratings.) But, for those of
us who have gotten used to the mantra that all programs be installed
under the start menu, including games, its really counterintuitive. I
actually wound up making a direct shortcut to the exe of one game,
before I realized it was probably under the games item.
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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3: Well that was a freaking waste!
Date: 5 Aug 2008 07:57:26
Message: <48984026$1@news.povray.org>
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St. wrote:
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> I NEED one of those lawyers! Where can I find one?! I need to be rich
> to pay my present, (crap) lawyer!
>
Well, that depends on how stupid you can be ;) It seems like the truly
stupid have no trouble finding these lawyers... :D
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