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Warp wrote:
> I don't think 0.1 micrograms of DHMO has ever killed anyone.
My point is not that botox is completely harmless, but rather than a
great many quite ordinary substances can be surprisingly harmful... ;-)
Eat enough apple pips and you'll drop dead. But nobody worries about it
too much because you'd have to eat a ridiculous amount of them.
Similarly, the carefully measured dose of botox used in surgery is far
too tiny to pose any threat to anything. Indeed, *most* drugs are
lethally toxin even when taken in really quite small amounts.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:13:25 +0100, St. wrote:
>> I don't recall if I've said it before here, but we have actually
>> thought about moving. And with my wife's medical conditions, actually,
>> the high altitude, direct sunlight, and low humidity aggravate those
>> conditions, so we are going to *have* to move sooner or later (and
>> sooner would be better).
>
> Move here? The UK? Apparently, it's a mini New Zealand (country-side
> wise). Just beautiful.
Yeah, there - the UK. :-) We do think it's beautiful there; we've
visited a couple times, and most of our really close friends are there.
It's a shame we only get to see them when we get over there, they get
over here, or "virtually" online.
>> Yeah. The situation was (and still is, for that matter) quite unusual.
>> Apparently the "punishment" that was used was at the recommendation of
>> a therapist. The way it was administered, though, caused overhydration
>> to an extent that it resulted in death. I also understand there
>> were/are some psychological factors with the mother as well,
>
> That last sentence, I can relate to.
Yeah, from what I understand from people who know the family better,
something's seriously messed up.
> True. It's hard to talk sometimes. It's like being in prison - you
> don't
> ask your cellmate what he did to be put inside. <sigh>
I won't ask how you know that. ;-)
Jim
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Eat enough apple pips and you'll drop dead. But nobody worries about it
> too much because you'd have to eat a ridiculous amount of them.
> Similarly, the carefully measured dose of botox used in surgery is far
> too tiny to pose any threat to anything.
The difference is that measuring apple pips in kilograms is rather easy,
even without any tools. Measuring nanograms of botox is extremely difficult,
even with really sophisticated tools.
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> The difference is that measuring apple pips in kilograms is rather easy,
> even without any tools. Measuring nanograms of botox is extremely difficult,
> even with really sophisticated tools.
Measuring out one nanogram of liquid is very hard.
However, I rather suspect that what they *actually* do is take (say) 1 L
of pure botox and mix with 9 L of pure water, then take 1 L of the
mixture and add it to another 9 L of pure water, then... recurse a few
times and you can create a water/botox mixture of very precise
concentration without having to actually measure anything particularly
accurately.
(Sorry... my dad actually works in a lab where we routinely make up
solutions of, say, 4 ug of aspirin per L of liquid.)
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
news:4888edd5$1@news.povray.org...
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:13:25 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>>> I don't recall if I've said it before here, but we have actually
>>> thought about moving. And with my wife's medical conditions, actually,
>>> the high altitude, direct sunlight, and low humidity aggravate those
>>> conditions, so we are going to *have* to move sooner or later (and
>>> sooner would be better).
>>
>> Move here? The UK? Apparently, it's a mini New Zealand (country-side
>> wise). Just beautiful.
>
> Yeah, there - the UK. :-) We do think it's beautiful there; we've
> visited a couple times, and most of our really close friends are there.
> It's a shame we only get to see them when we get over there, they get
> over here, or "virtually" online.
Ah, Jim, go for it then. I know you would like it. If you want 'busy'
then move to London (and venture out). Or move to Birmingham or Manchester.
But if you want beauty, hit Wales, Scotland, or Ireland for those benefits.
You won't go wrong if that's what you want.
>
>>> Yeah. The situation was (and still is, for that matter) quite unusual.
>>> Apparently the "punishment" that was used was at the recommendation of
>>> a therapist. The way it was administered, though, caused overhydration
>>> to an extent that it resulted in death. I also understand there
>>> were/are some psychological factors with the mother as well,
>>
>> That last sentence, I can relate to.
>
> Yeah, from what I understand from people who know the family better,
> something's seriously messed up.
"Seriously messed up" is what I understand. :/
>
>> True. It's hard to talk sometimes. It's like being in prison - you
>> don't
>> ask your cellmate what he did to be put inside. <sigh>
>
> I won't ask how you know that. ;-)
Ah well, I've posted it here before, so it doesn't really matter, but
when I was around 20 years old, I was sent to prison for 30 days for
non-payment of fine. I was a bike nutter back then and didn't follow the
laws as I should have, no insurance etc., BUT *nothing* would keep me off a
bike back then. I'm 45 years old now, and haven't ridden a motorbike in 20
years. Yes, I learned my lesson. I would LOVE to ride again, but these old
bones couldn't handle 180+ on these new Superbikes - I think. ;)
~Steve~
>
> Jim
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Oh, and to answer your actual question, ;) I was penned-up with a young
bible carrying Rastafarian who wanted to 'box' me at 2am in the morning on
my first night. Waking me to do so. He then read some bible to me, and then
smacked me on the nose. (Yes, it was bleeding).
Now, back then, I was a fit young guy that could have knocked this guy
out, but, when I first went in there I was aware enough to see who was in
the neighboring cells - and yes, they were BIG Rasta boys. I mean six+ guys
with Arnie's arms. Man, that scared me back then!
~Steve~
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:28:47 +0100, St. wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:4888edd5$1@news.povray.org...
>> Yeah, there - the UK. :-) We do think it's beautiful there; we've
>> visited a couple times, and most of our really close friends are there.
>> It's a shame we only get to see them when we get over there, they get
>> over here, or "virtually" online.
>
> Ah, Jim, go for it then. I know you would like it. If you want
> 'busy'
> then move to London (and venture out). Or move to Birmingham or
> Manchester. But if you want beauty, hit Wales, Scotland, or Ireland for
> those benefits. You won't go wrong if that's what you want.
My wife grew up in a small town; we have good friends in Bucks and near
Stratford, but also up near Edinburough as well. Come to think, also got
some down in Hastings, too.
We have considered Scotland as well; my friends up there own their own
consulting business and it happens to be in technology I'm very well
acquainted with, so if they could afford me, I'm sure I could get in
easily on a work visa. Problem for me is I don't have a degree, and I
understand in England at least, that's now one of three criteria being
applied by the home office (the others I've heard are age - and we're too
old, and money to invest - and we don't have any). But a work visa would
be good enough to get started at least. :-)
>> Yeah, from what I understand from people who know the family better,
>> something's seriously messed up.
>
> "Seriously messed up" is what I understand. :/
Yeah, I thought I had understood that from what you said.
>>> True. It's hard to talk sometimes. It's like being in prison - you
>>> don't
>>> ask your cellmate what he did to be put inside. <sigh>
>>
>> I won't ask how you know that. ;-)
>
> Ah well, I've posted it here before, so it doesn't really matter, but
> when I was around 20 years old, I was sent to prison for 30 days for
> non-payment of fine. I was a bike nutter back then and didn't follow the
> laws as I should have, no insurance etc., BUT *nothing* would keep me
> off a bike back then. I'm 45 years old now, and haven't ridden a
> motorbike in 20 years. Yes, I learned my lesson. I would LOVE to ride
> again, but these old bones couldn't handle 180+ on these new Superbikes
> - I think. ;)
Ah, I see - well, I somehow missed that. That's not nearly as bad as it
could have been, though I'm sure even 30 days was no cakewalk.
Jim
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:49:38 +0100, St. wrote:
> Oh, and to answer your actual question, ;) I was penned-up with a young
> bible carrying Rastafarian who wanted to 'box' me at 2am in the morning
> on my first night. Waking me to do so. He then read some bible to me,
> and then smacked me on the nose. (Yes, it was bleeding).
Sheesh. Some people's kids, eh?
> Now, back then, I was a fit young guy that could have knocked this guy
> out, but, when I first went in there I was aware enough to see who was
> in the neighboring cells - and yes, they were BIG Rasta boys. I mean
> six+ guys with Arnie's arms. Man, that scared me back then!
That'd concern me NOW even. ;-)
Jim
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> However, I rather suspect that what they *actually* do is take (say) 1 L
> of pure botox and mix with 9 L of pure water, then take 1 L of the
> mixture and add it to another 9 L of pure water, then... recurse a few
> times and you can create a water/botox mixture of very precise
> concentration without having to actually measure anything particularly
> accurately.
That assumes the botox spreads evenly inside the water and doesn't
clump (eg. because of chemical properties or gravity).
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- Warp
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Life is a terminal disease.
I'm going to live forever if it kills me.
I'm going to live forever or die in the attempt.
The world is so dangerous that none of us will get out of it alive.
That's all I can think of right now, but I used to know loads more like
this :)
...Chambers
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