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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 22 Jul 2008 13:13:00
Message: <4886151c@news.povray.org>
Is there such a thing?

Last evening got a call that showed up as

1-123-456-7890


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 22 Jul 2008 13:21:05
Message: <48861701$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback wrote:
> Is there such a thing?
> 
> Last evening got a call that showed up as
> 
> 1-123-456-7890 
> 
> 

Yes there is and it's obnoxious. Its a way to get around the Do Not Call 
list. By falsifying the number, there's little you can do to report the 
call. Usually they don't give a name in the recorded message, Instead 
instruct you to push a number, which transfers an agent who is trained 
to hang up at the first sign of someone actually trying to discover the 
identity. There's a new round of them going around lately. My caller-id 
on my cellphone gave back a number with an extra digit. My home phone 
had the same number you describe call it. Both were vague recorded 
messages.


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 22 Jul 2008 13:26:55
Message: <4886185f@news.povray.org>
"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:48861701$1@news.povray.org...
> Yes there is and it's obnoxious. Its a way to get around the Do Not Call 
> list. By falsifying the number, there's little you can do to report the 
> call. Usually they don't give a name in the recorded message, Instead 
> instruct you to push a number, which transfers an agent who is trained to 
> hang up at the first sign of someone actually trying to discover the 
> identity. There's a new round of them going around lately. My caller-id on 
> my cellphone gave back a number with an extra digit. My home phone had the 
> same number you describe call it. Both were vague recorded messages.

well sheesh ..... it seems like these days it's all about finding a way to 
get around the rules. first it's the patriots and their "video gate" and now 
this!

It's shear madness out there I tell you!!!! ;-)


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From: Clarence1898
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 22 Jul 2008 13:30:00
Message: <web.488618712944f4b89cbfa01e0@news.povray.org>
"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Is there such a thing?
>
> Last evening got a call that showed up as
>
> 1-123-456-7890

See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing

Isaac


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 22 Jul 2008 13:33:50
Message: <488619fe$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:13:02 -0300, Jim Holsenback wrote:

> Is there such a thing?
> 
> Last evening got a call that showed up as
> 
> 1-123-456-7890

Yeah, there is - though I thought in the US it was illegal.

Jim


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 22 Jul 2008 21:24:34
Message: <48868852$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:13:02 -0300, Jim Holsenback wrote:
> 
>> Is there such a thing?
>>
>> Last evening got a call that showed up as
>>
>> 1-123-456-7890
> 
> Yeah, there is - though I thought in the US it was illegal.
> 
> Jim

The businesses using it have money, so that law doesn't apply to them. 
In the US, we only bust kids playing with computers and charge them with 
being cyber terrorists.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 23 Jul 2008 01:39:12
Message: <4886c400$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:24:33 -0400, Sabrina Kilian wrote:

> The businesses using it have money, so that law doesn't apply to them.
> In the US, we only bust kids playing with computers and charge them with
> being cyber terrorists.

Sad but true sometimes....

In a way, it kinda reflects back on the old "Phreaking" history...

Jim


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 23 Jul 2008 08:38:00
Message: <48872628@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian wrote:

> The businesses using it have money, so that law doesn't apply to them. 
> In the US, we only bust kids playing with computers and charge them with 
> being cyber terrorists.

The "terrorist" du jour appears to be a woman and her father taking 
pictures of butterflies on petunias.

My wife and her dad were taking pictures of a butterfly in some town 
square shopping area type setting. A security guard approached them, and 
demanded they sign paperwork stating they wouldn't share the pictures on 
the internet.

They didn't sign any paperwork. :)

I so very much wish I were there. But it's probably a good thing, 
because what I would have done would most assuredly get myself thrown in 
jail.


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 23 Jul 2008 15:34:57
Message: <488787e1$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback wrote:
> Is there such a thing?
> 
> Last evening got a call that showed up as
> 
> 1-123-456-7890 

	It's very likely that this was a call from someone using Skype Out. Not 
intentional spoofing. Don't put it on any block list as it's likely 
someone you know trying to call.

	And yes, it's easy to spoof, and as someone pointed out, illegal in the 
US (not sure if this is a state rule or a federal rule). I did it once, 
two years ago. I had set up an Asterisk server on my computer and was 
playing around with it. I signed up for a phone number, and the software 
lets you configure what the outgoing caller ID will be. I tried it, 
called my normal phone line, and checked the caller ID. It was whatever 
I had set it to be. That simple.

	Didn't call anyone else with that spoofed ID, though - and abandoned 
the whole Asterisk thing a day or two later.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Caller ID spoofing?
Date: 23 Jul 2008 15:56:48
Message: <48878d00$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:34:56 -0500, Mueen Nawaz wrote:

> And yes, it's easy to spoof, and as someone pointed out, illegal in the
> US (not sure if this is a state rule or a federal rule).

I believe that would be at the federal level, as the agency in charge of 
that would be the FCC (a federal agency) and the laws would undoubtably 
be covered under intrastate commerce, which is a federal set of laws.

They get some pretty weird stuff in at the federal level under intrastate 
commerce rules.

Jim


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