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From: St 
Subject: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:05:25
Message: <48764f65@news.povray.org>
Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online yesterday? I 
bet it was just me here. :(

  
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/media-alert-check-point-provides/story.aspx?guid=%7BFC6B94E2-0979-4173-92BF-9AF2C9F677D5%7D&dist=hppr

  Apparently, ZoneAlarm and winUpdate didn't see eye-to-eye this time around 
which resulted in not being able to access the internet. Yep, true.

   The thing is, I spent countless hours trying to fix it, falling short of 
ringing my ISP's (Tiscali) helpline in India. Heh. :)

  I messed with the settings for aaaaaggggeeesss! I messed with everything! 
(You know, it took a day+). ;)

  And then I thought: What happened/what did I do when I couldn't access the 
'net? "Oh yeah, I installed that MS update"

  Heck, I just looked at it in "Add and Remove Programs" and clicked it the 
hell out of there... And then, all of a sudden, I had the **'NET** back!  :)

   Anyway, the recommendation is to install the latest versions of ZA and 
AVG. (And it works).

   But, truly, I lost a day there.  :(

   Who do I bill for that?

       ~Steve~


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From: St 
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:13:40
Message: <48765154$1@news.povray.org>
BTW, I feel proud that I found the answer myself, (just to get back online), 
before I found the answer when I did get back online...

  Hmm @ that...

   ~Steve~


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:19:57
Message: <487652cd@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48764f65@news.povray.org...
> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online yesterday? I
> bet it was just me here. :(
>

The latest security update definitly caused 'issues'. There were lots of
mentions of it on the SQL boards though I didn't read the details. Also saw
a query about it on the mvp newsgroups.

I think I'll wait a couple days to see how things fall out before I install.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:42:30
Message: <48765816@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
news:487652cd@news.povray.org...
>
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48764f65@news.povray.org...
>> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online yesterday? I
>> bet it was just me here. :(
>>
>
> The latest security update definitly caused 'issues'. There were lots of
> mentions of it on the SQL boards though I didn't read the details. Also 
> saw
> a query about it on the mvp newsgroups.

     Yes, I was actually quite surprised that I found the answer so quickly 
on Google. I think a lot of people probably fell into the same trap with 
their machine's setups, much like myself.


>
> I think I'll wait a couple days to see how things fall out before I 
> install.

   Well, it's not the win update Gail, that's ok, it's the relationship with 
ZA - something hasn't quite married properly this time around program-wise.

    ~Steve~


>
>


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:49:50
Message: <487659ce@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48765816@news.povray.org...
>
> > I think I'll wait a couple days to see how things fall out before I
> > install.
>
>    Well, it's not the win update Gail, that's ok, it's the relationship
with
> ZA - something hasn't quite married properly this time around
program-wise.
>

Yeah, but the update's doing something to SQL Server too, and that I have a
big issue with. With a mini-presentation tomorrow and 2 biggish conference
presentations in 3 weeks, I can't afford a broken laptop right now.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:57:01
Message: <48765b7d$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:05:10 +0100, St. wrote:

> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online yesterday?
> I bet it was just me here.

Actually, my younger brother in Japan said he was having troubles 
intermittantly.....Hmmm, I wonder if he applied this update.

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 15:07:59
Message: <48765e0f$1@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
news:487659ce@news.povray.org...
>
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48765816@news.povray.org...
>>
>> > I think I'll wait a couple days to see how things fall out before I
>> > install.
>>
>>    Well, it's not the win update Gail, that's ok, it's the relationship
> with
>> ZA - something hasn't quite married properly this time around
> program-wise.
>>
>
> Yeah, but the update's doing something to SQL Server too, and that I have 
> a
> big issue with. With a mini-presentation tomorrow and 2 biggish conference
> presentations in 3 weeks, I can't afford a broken laptop right now.

  Ah, I see! Sorry about that Gail, really. I hope you do ok, (as I'm sure 
you will).

    Best,

      ~Steve~


>
>


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 15:21:48
Message: <4876614c@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48765e0f$1@news.povray.org...
>
>   Ah, I see! Sorry about that Gail, really. I hope you do ok, (as I'm sure
> you will).

It'll be fine. I'm usually a couple days behind on updates anyway. I'll
install it once I have some confirmation on what it's actually doing.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 15:26:19
Message: <4876625b$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
news:48765b7d$1@news.povray.org...
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:05:10 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online yesterday?
>> I bet it was just me here.
>
> Actually, my younger brother in Japan said he was having troubles
> intermittantly.....Hmmm, I wonder if he applied this update.

 Yeah, kind of sounds like it Jim if he's using ZA too. But, it shouldn't be 
intermittant, he just won't get online. I mean, he'll be able to 'connect' 
to his ISP, (my experience), but he won't render one single web page or 
download any emails. Very frustrating, and it was like: "I trust winupdate", 
and hence me looking for other solutions. Lesson learnt.  ;)

   ~Steve~


>
> Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 15:57:42
Message: <487669b6$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:26:10 +0100, St. wrote:

> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:48765b7d$1@news.povray.org...
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:05:10 +0100, St. wrote:
>>
>>> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online
>>> yesterday? I bet it was just me here.
>>
>> Actually, my younger brother in Japan said he was having troubles
>> intermittantly.....Hmmm, I wonder if he applied this update.
> 
>  Yeah, kind of sounds like it Jim if he's using ZA too. But, it
>  shouldn't be
> intermittant, he just won't get online. I mean, he'll be able to
> 'connect' to his ISP, (my experience), but he won't render one single
> web page or download any emails. Very frustrating, and it was like: "I
> trust winupdate", and hence me looking for other solutions. Lesson
> learnt.  ;)

:-)

I've asked him if that's a possibility, so we'll see.  Thanks for 
pointing this one out, though - I never would have found it otherwise.

Jim


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