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From: Invisible
Subject: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 07:31:13
Message: <48564f01@news.povray.org>
I'd like to share a little something with you.

As you may remember, my friend Marcus took me on a shopping trip 
recently. Well, I attempted to photograph the result:

http://download.orphi.me.uk/Photos/BeforeAfter.html

Hmm... Photographing yourself is *really* hard! :-/

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 11:25:40
Message: <485685f4@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> http://download.orphi.me.uk/Photos/BeforeAfter.html

  You should change your hairstyle.

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 11:29:34
Message: <485686de$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   You should change your hairstyle.

What, like this?

http://download.orphi.me.uk/Photos/Spikey.jpg

Actually, my sister pointed out the other day that I've had the same 
hairstyle since I was 5 years old. And this is a "bad" thing??

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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 13:41:26
Message: <4856a5c6$1@news.povray.org>
That's an Indiana Jones shirt! Is your friend Marcus Brody?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 13:55:55
Message: <39ad5459f5oi0hemf7imso5ga92qo58lru@4ax.com>
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:31:11 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>
>Hmm... Photographing yourself is *really* hard! :-/

They don't do you justice.
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     Stephen


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 15:01:00
Message: <n1ed54tl6qbnld9koe2jpno49qh52f43hr@4ax.com>
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:29:33 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Actually, my sister pointed out the other day that I've had the same 
>hairstyle since I was 5 years old. And this is a "bad" thing??

Perhaps one of these would work for you?

http://j-walkblog.com/index.php?/weblog/posts/hairstyle_gallery/


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 15:09:32
Message: <4856ba6c$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> They don't do you justice.

How do you know? For all y - oh, it's you. ;-)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 15:20:07
Message: <4856bce7@news.povray.org>
>> Actually, my sister pointed out the other day that I've had the same 
>> hairstyle since I was 5 years old. And this is a "bad" thing??
> 
> Perhaps one of these would work for you?
> 
> http://j-walkblog.com/index.php?/weblog/posts/hairstyle_gallery/

The lady in the bottom-right corner: What the HELL are you smoking?!

Seriously luv, SORT IT OUT!!

Jesus... o_O

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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 18:26:03
Message: <4856e87b@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:31:11 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> 
>> Hmm... Photographing yourself is *really* hard! :-/
> 
> They don't do you justice.

Step your aperture a bit to cut the background light, and use a flash.


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 16 Jun 2008 18:28:52
Message: <4856e924@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:29:33 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> 
>> Actually, my sister pointed out the other day that I've had the same 
>> hairstyle since I was 5 years old. And this is a "bad" thing??
> 
> Perhaps one of these would work for you?
> 
> http://j-walkblog.com/index.php?/weblog/posts/hairstyle_gallery/
> 
> 
> 

Where was this last week when I was looking for a hair style gallery? 
Probably right where it is now, but I couldn't find it.

I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist but I can't find 
any programmers around here who will look at me and say "No way, 
sweetie, that hair style will not work on you." until after I already 
look silly.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 03:12:01
Message: <kmoe545fcoq5f03h1v710tobe296c1o6sf@4ax.com>
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:28:56 -0400, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at
vtSPAM.edu"> wrote:

>
>I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist

Once you've found one never let him go.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 03:20:56
Message: <485765d8@news.povray.org>
>> http://download.orphi.me.uk/Photos/BeforeAfter.html
> 
>  You should change your hairstyle.

change?


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 03:51:14
Message: <48576cf2@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian wrote:

> I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist but I can't find 
> any programmers around here who will look at me and say "No way, 
> sweetie, that hair style will not work on you." until after I already 
> look silly.

Can you clarify where "here" is?

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 03:51:43
Message: <48576d0f$1@news.povray.org>
Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> That's an Indiana Jones shirt! Is your friend Marcus Brody? 

LOL!

WTH?!

-- 
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 03:52:53
Message: <48576d55$1@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian wrote:

> Step your aperture a bit to cut the background light, and use a flash.

1. What's an aperture? [No GLaDDOS jokes please.]

2. Will a flash make any difference in an outdoor scene shot from a 
distance of 25 feet?

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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 04:37:13
Message: <485777b9@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:48576d0f$1@news.povray.org...
> Zeger Knaepen wrote:
>> That's an Indiana Jones shirt! Is your friend Marcus Brody?
>
> LOL!
>
> WTH?!

http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/indiana_jones_shirt.htm

That does have a very close resemblance to your shirt, doesn't it? :)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 04:43:50
Message: <48577946$1@news.povray.org>
>>> That's an Indiana Jones shirt! Is your friend Marcus Brody?
>> LOL!
>>
>> WTH?!
> 
> http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/indiana_jones_shirt.htm
> 
> That does have a very close resemblance to your shirt, doesn't it? :) 

Damn, the photography is worse than I thought... *my* shirt is _white_, 
and has _stripes_. o_O

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 04:44:33
Message: <op.ucvw8jxwc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:31:11 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> I'd like to share a little something with you.
>
> As you may remember, my friend Marcus took me on a shopping trip  
> recently. Well, I attempted to photograph the result:
>
> http://download.orphi.me.uk/Photos/BeforeAfter.html
>
> Hmm... Photographing yourself is *really* hard! :-/

Look at those shiny shiny trousers, the second photo is much better though  
you need an iron on that shirt; hmm the rolled-up sleeve thing is  
definitely you.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:08:20
Message: <48577f04$1@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:48577946$1@news.povray.org...
>>>> That's an Indiana Jones shirt! Is your friend Marcus Brody?
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> WTH?!
>>
>> http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/indiana_jones_shirt.htm
>>
>> That does have a very close resemblance to your shirt, doesn't it? :)
>
> Damn, the photography is worse than I thought... *my* shirt is _white_, 
> and has _stripes_. o_O

well, actually, the real Indiana Jones shirt is more white than khaki :)
but it doesn't have stripes, that would be an Indiana Jails shirt


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:13:35
Message: <v00f54pt8v1oq9412nfphtlvf15i3uorhb@4ax.com>
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:52:55 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>
>> Step your aperture a bit to cut the background light, and use a flash.
>
>1. What's an aperture? [No GLaDDOS jokes please.]

The aperture on a camera is a hole or an opening through which light
is admitted. Besides letting in more or less light it controls the
depth of field. A small aperture gives a greater depth of field. It is
also referred to as the f number or stops. I assume that Sabrina meant
for you to decrease the aperture to cut down the total light entering
the camera and use the flash as a fill in light. You would need to use
your camera in manual mode as in automatic it would increase the
exposure time to compensate.

>2. Will a flash make any difference in an outdoor scene shot from a 
>distance of 25 feet?

One can only suck it and see. 
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:19:07
Message: <4857818b@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:

> Look at those shiny shiny trousers, the second photo is much better 
> though you need an iron on that shirt; hmm the rolled-up sleeve thing is 
> definitely you.

Now you understand what I mean by "paying money for clothes that look 
wrecked already"? The shirt was wrinkled up like that in the shop. 
Apparently it's meant to look like that. Similarly, the jeans were 
half-faded to hell already. As for the sleeves, they're actually 
buttoned up like that. I have no idea why...

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:19:16
Message: <48578194$1@news.povray.org>
> The aperture on a camera is a hole or an opening through which light
> is admitted. Besides letting in more or less light it controls the
> depth of field. A small aperture gives a greater depth of field. It is
> also referred to as the f number or stops. I assume that Sabrina meant
> for you to decrease the aperture to cut down the total light entering

I'd say open up the aperture actually, to blur the background and make 
Andrew stand out more.  Increase the shutter speed to compensate for the 
increased aperture, then increase it further until the background is a bit 
darker.  Then use some flash to make Andrew appear at a satisfactory 
brightness.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:24:32
Message: <485782d0$1@news.povray.org>
>>> Step your aperture a bit to cut the background light, and use a flash.
>> 1. What's an aperture? [No GLaDDOS jokes please.]
> 
> The aperture on a camera is a hole or an opening through which light
> is admitted. Besides letting in more or less light it controls the
> depth of field. A small aperture gives a greater depth of field. It is
> also referred to as the f number or stops. I assume that Sabrina meant
> for you to decrease the aperture to cut down the total light entering
> the camera and use the flash as a fill in light. You would need to use
> your camera in manual mode as in automatic it would increase the
> exposure time to compensate.

Right. So sharp images require bright illumination and/or a long shutter 
time?

Did I mention that my camera really struggles to produce a visible image 
except in the most blindingly brilliant sunshine? Seriously, you can use 
it as a webcam, but unless you're standing with a laptop next to 
Stonehenge at noon on the Summer Solstice, the image just comes out dark 
brown. My camera just seems to have a superlatively insensitive light 
detector...

>> 2. Will a flash make any difference in an outdoor scene shot from a 
>> distance of 25 feet?
> 
> One can only suck it and see. 

Hey, I'm just glad I got the whole of me in shot that time.

In order to take these pictures, I had to find an object of 
approximately the correct height, balance the camera on it, align the 
camera to where I think I'm going to stand, set it to timer mode, press 
the button, walk over to the spot I think it's aimed at, strike a pose, 
wait for the camera to shoot, walk back to the camera and check the shot.

Needless to say, I got bored of this very quickly. The 2nd shot is the 
best image I managed to get all day. :-/ And even then I had to crop it 
to get the right parts into shot. (It would have helped if the camera 
was at head height rather than knee height!)

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:25:04
Message: <485782f0@news.povray.org>
> Stephen wrote:
> 
>> They don't do you justice.
> 
> How do you know? For all y - oh, it's you. ;-)

Fancy a drink on Saturday?

I might wear the outfit. ;-)

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:28:56
Message: <5u0f54patu12h6nffe0dllitaj35sl3nid@4ax.com>
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:19:15 +0200, "scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:

>> The aperture on a camera is a hole or an opening through which light
>> is admitted. Besides letting in more or less light it controls the
>> depth of field. A small aperture gives a greater depth of field. It is
>> also referred to as the f number or stops. I assume that Sabrina meant
>> for you to decrease the aperture to cut down the total light entering
>
>I'd say open up the aperture actually, to blur the background and make 
>Andrew stand out more.  Increase the shutter speed to compensate for the 
>increased aperture, then increase it further until the background is a bit 
>darker.  Then use some flash to make Andrew appear at a satisfactory 
>brightness.
> 
Probably better, I wish Sabrina had said step up or down. There are a
few ways of doing what's wanted but the best is to bracket the normal
exposure IMHO.
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:35:23
Message: <m31f54tkbgs0k6kjacrmj5attf6r25f45j@4ax.com>
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:24:28 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>
>Right. So sharp images require bright illumination and/or a long shutter 
>time?

Yes and no :)
Long shutter times can induce blur from hand shake or other movements.
It is a balance getting the correct exposure.


>Did I mention that my camera really struggles to produce a visible image 
>except in the most blindingly brilliant sunshine? Seriously, you can use 
>it as a webcam, but unless you're standing with a laptop next to 
>Stonehenge at noon on the Summer Solstice, the image just comes out dark 
>brown. My camera just seems to have a superlatively insensitive light 
>detector...
Hmm! A digital camera then. Have you checked the mode you are using it
in and/or the settings? From what you say it sounds duff or the ASA
(film sensitivity in non-digital cameras) setting is wrong but the
photos look OK. 
In the first one were you just pleased to see me? :)
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:45:05
Message: <do1f549jfu4b42vbfofonguk71t51srlff@4ax.com>
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:25:00 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>> Stephen wrote:
>> 
>>> They don't do you justice.
>> 
>> How do you know? For all y - oh, it's you. ;-)
>
>Fancy a drink on Saturday?

I'll have to check the day, I'll come back

>I might wear the outfit. ;-)

I'm not a fashion Queen 
So "Frankly my dear" …  :)

[Quote from "Gone with the wind"]
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 05:51:01
Message: <48578905$1@news.povray.org>
>> Fancy a drink on Saturday?
> 
> I'll have to check the day, I'll come back

OK. I'm not 100% sure what I'm doing either, but I think I'll be free...

>> I might wear the outfit. ;-)
> 
> I'm not a fashion Queen 
> So "Frankly my dear" …  :)
> 
> [Quote from "Gone with the wind"]

[Apparently it was meant to be "I don't really care"...]

Actually, my line almost looks like I'm flirting. o_O

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 06:13:20
Message: <op.ucv1cixoc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:19:04 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> Look at those shiny shiny trousers, the second photo is much better  
>> though you need an iron on that shirt; hmm the rolled-up sleeve thing  
>> is definitely you.
>
> Now you understand what I mean by "paying money for clothes that look  
> wrecked already"? The shirt was wrinkled up like that in the shop.  
> Apparently it's meant to look like that.

Pfft that's just so they can sell it, just iron the damn thing :-P

> Similarly, the jeans were half-faded to hell already. As for the  
> sleeves, they're actually buttoned up like that. I have no idea why...

Oookay.


Ah joy I've just upgraded to Opera 9.5 which feels like upgrading XP to  
Vista; it didn't import passwords, mail, or the spell checker and now I've  
got some of it working it's not marking incoming replies to my own posts -  
how fun.

-- 
Phil Cook

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 06:15:14
Message: <0k3f549cvcabf2e6v55d7cse82lpev15t8@4ax.com>
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:51:02 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>
>OK. I'm not 100% sure what I'm doing either, but I think I'll be free...

Saturday is not one of my favourite days to be in town for a drink but
if you give me a few hours …

>>> I might wear the outfit. ;-)
>> 
>> I'm not a fashion Queen 
>> So "Frankly my dear" …  :)
>> 
>> [Quote from "Gone with the wind"]
>
>[Apparently it was meant to be "I don't really care"...]
>
>Actually, my line almost looks like I'm flirting. o_O

Best of British :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 08:02:14
Message: <8r9f5453li45pbs2c6oae1q5qao8laa8ib@4ax.com>
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:28:56 -0400, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at vtSPAM.edu"> wrote:

>Where was this last week when I was looking for a hair style gallery? 
>Probably right where it is now, but I couldn't find it.

Probably.  I found it at images.google.com, search for "hairstyle", second or third
hit.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 10:33:53
Message: <4857cb51$1@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian wrote:

> I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist but I can't find 
> any programmers around here who will look at me and say "No way, 
> sweetie, that hair style will not work on you." until after I already 
> look silly.

Way sweetie, it works.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 12:31:52
Message: <4857e6f8$1@news.povray.org>
Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> That's an Indiana Jones shirt! Is your friend Marcus Brody? 

It's really just a pretty standard African safari shirt, methinks. Sort 
of like a pith helmet and all. I bought one very similar when I went to 
Africa.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
  Helpful housekeeping hints:
   Check your feather pillows for holes
    before putting them in the washing machine.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 17 Jun 2008 18:04:52
Message: <n7dg54ho6s74po522v4mc7epjkt8nl9cjh@4ax.com>
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:15:11 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom>
wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:51:02 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
>>
>>OK. I'm not 100% sure what I'm doing either, but I think I'll be free...
>
>Saturday is not one of my favourite days to be in town for a drink but
>if you give me a few hours …

I'm quite booked up for the next three weekends. If you can manage mid
week sometime, say next Thursday (26th) we might be able to twist Dr
John's arm. Maybe food and a drink :)
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 18 Jun 2008 04:30:03
Message: <4858c78b$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> I'm quite booked up for the next three weekends. If you can manage mid
> week sometime, say next Thursday (26th) we might be able to twist Dr
> John's arm. Maybe food and a drink :)

Sounds good to me... ;-)

Although I don't get back to MK after work until about 6 PM.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 18 Jun 2008 05:59:21
Message: <83nh545obhnp02hf45d43fqj631v0799ns@4ax.com>
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:30:03 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>> I'm quite booked up for the next three weekends. If you can manage mid
>> week sometime, say next Thursday (26th) we might be able to twist Dr
>> John's arm. Maybe food and a drink :)
>
>Sounds good to me... ;-)
>
>Although I don't get back to MK after work until about 6 PM.

That would mean getting to London about 8 p.m. If you went straight to
the train station we could meet there then go for something to eat,
directly. Gaining some (drinking) time. :)
Of course it's up to you.
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 18 Jun 2008 06:18:31
Message: <4858e0f7$1@news.povray.org>
>> Sounds good to me... ;-)
>>
>> Although I don't get back to MK after work until about 6 PM.
> 
> That would mean getting to London about 8 p.m. If you went straight to
> the train station we could meet there then go for something to eat,
> directly. Gaining some (drinking) time. :)
> Of course it's up to you.

Hmm. I shall debate this matter for a time, and let you know when I 
reach a conclusion...

-- 
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 18 Jun 2008 08:44:21
Message: <io0i54lut9di3sk7f3mki9rc16rcn2l69e@4ax.com>
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:18:13 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>>> Sounds good to me... ;-)
>>>
>>> Although I don't get back to MK after work until about 6 PM.
>> 
>> That would mean getting to London about 8 p.m. If you went straight to
>> the train station we could meet there then go for something to eat,
>> directly. Gaining some (drinking) time. :)
>> Of course it's up to you.
>
>Hmm. I shall debate this matter for a time, and let you know when I 
>reach a conclusion...

Righty ho!
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 19 Jun 2008 21:08:19
Message: <485b0303$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> 
>> I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist but I can't 
>> find any programmers around here who will look at me and say "No way, 
>> sweetie, that hair style will not work on you." until after I already 
>> look silly.
> 
> Way sweetie, it works.

Yeah, see, I cut it again. Which reminds me, I don't think I emailed you 
the pic from NYC. Want me to send that your way once I find my camera?


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 19 Jun 2008 21:10:13
Message: <485b0375@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> 
>> I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist but I can't 
>> find any programmers around here who will look at me and say "No way, 
>> sweetie, that hair style will not work on you." until after I already 
>> look silly.
> 
> Can you clarify where "here" is?
> 

The email domain doesn't give it away? Blacksburg Va USA Earth Sol 
Western Spiral Arm of the Milkyway.


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 19 Jun 2008 21:17:27
Message: <485b0527$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:19:15 +0200, "scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> 
>>> The aperture on a camera is a hole or an opening through which light
>>> is admitted. Besides letting in more or less light it controls the
>>> depth of field. A small aperture gives a greater depth of field. It is
>>> also referred to as the f number or stops. I assume that Sabrina meant
>>> for you to decrease the aperture to cut down the total light entering
>> I'd say open up the aperture actually, to blur the background and make 
>> Andrew stand out more.  Increase the shutter speed to compensate for the 
>> increased aperture, then increase it further until the background is a bit 
>> darker.  Then use some flash to make Andrew appear at a satisfactory 
>> brightness.
>>
> Probably better, I wish Sabrina had said step up or down. There are a
> few ways of doing what's wanted but the best is to bracket the normal
> exposure IMHO.

I was thinking to close the aperture a bit. That bright of a day, I 
didn't think that opening the aperture would leave any room at the flash 
sync to get any light without seeing the shutter. Guess with that bright 
of a pic with that much in focus it has to be a pretty small aperture 
already, but I wasn't going that far with my thoughts yet.

I just graduated from a camera with a max sync speed of 1/64, I'm still 
not used to digital cameras going up to 1/4000.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 20 Jun 2008 04:17:51
Message: <485b67af$1@news.povray.org>
>> Can you clarify where "here" is?
>>
> 
> The email domain doesn't give it away?

That's a domain? It doesn't even appear to parse...

> Blacksburg Va USA Earth Sol 
> Western Spiral Arm of the Milkyway.

West of *what*?! o_O

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 20 Jun 2008 05:06:31
Message: <eosm54127gejbb6u1midhlhv19uma6t3sd@4ax.com>
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:17:34 -0400, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at
vtSPAM.edu"> wrote:

>
>I was thinking to close the aperture a bit.

I thought the same as you but Scott's view is just as valid IMO. 
But why listen to me when yesterday I made the most basic mistake in
the book. I was going to the library when I saw a young woman taking
her pet iguana for a walk. You see some strange sights in London but
I've never seen an iguana on a leash walking down the pavement. So I
grabbed my phone and took a picture. I was shooting into the sun
(mistake #1) so I could not see the screen and shot it blind. When I
looked at the picture I had a lovely shot of my finger. <garn> That's
why I preferred darkroom work to actually taking pictures. :(
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 20 Jun 2008 13:42:46
Message: <485bec16$1@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
> 
>> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>>
>>> I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist but I can't 
>>> find any programmers around here who will look at me and say "No way, 
>>> sweetie, that hair style will not work on you." until after I already 
>>> look silly.
>>
>>
>> Way sweetie, it works.
> 
> 
> Yeah, see, I cut it again. Which reminds me, I don't think I emailed you 
> the pic from NYC. Want me to send that your way once I find my camera?
Once you find your camera??????


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 20 Jun 2008 13:59:04
Message: <485befe8$1@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian wrote:

> Yeah, see, I cut it again. 

I have a hard time picturing your hair any other way.  For me it 
communicated your personality pretty well.  Smart, youthful, edgy.


Which reminds me, I don't think I emailed you
> the pic from NYC. Want me to send that your way 

Would like that, yes.  Can't believe my camera was out of juice that 
day.  Actually I think my brain was out of juice too.


PS Y'know what?  Now I think my new laptop has that virus thingy you 
helped me with.  :(    Know anything about reinstalling Vista?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 20 Jun 2008 20:03:11
Message: <m8ho549c0mn2h21j0ruv0tg6u2auu2clvk@4ax.com>
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:58:45 -0400, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom>
wrote:

>Know anything about reinstalling Vista?

Yes reinstall it as XP :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 22 Jun 2008 01:08:33
Message: <485dde51$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>> Jim Charter wrote:
>>
>>> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist but I can't 
>>>> find any programmers around here who will look at me and say "No 
>>>> way, sweetie, that hair style will not work on you." until after I 
>>>> already look silly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Way sweetie, it works.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, see, I cut it again. Which reminds me, I don't think I emailed 
>> you the pic from NYC. Want me to send that your way once I find my 
>> camera?
> Once you find your camera??????

The USB cable went missing, and I haven't needed a CF card reader for 
ages. All of the lens and bags got shuffled for the train, then for the 
drive from the station back home.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 22 Jun 2008 14:59:30
Message: <485ea112$1@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
> 
>> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Charter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really need to stop driving 2 hours to see my stylist but I can't 
>>>>> find any programmers around here who will look at me and say "No 
>>>>> way, sweetie, that hair style will not work on you." until after I 
>>>>> already look silly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Way sweetie, it works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, see, I cut it again. Which reminds me, I don't think I emailed 
>>> you the pic from NYC. Want me to send that your way once I find my 
>>> camera?
>>
>> Once you find your camera??????
> 
> 
> The USB cable went missing, and I haven't needed a CF card reader for 
> ages. All of the lens and bags got shuffled for the train, then for the 
> drive from the station back home.
That sucks.  Kinkos or equivalent?
Note to self: "don't loose the USB"...which would be very easy in my 
apartment,...with the cat that steals things...where is the cat, 
anyway... ... ...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bad photography
Date: 22 Jun 2008 15:13:58
Message: <485ea476$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> Note to self: "don't loose the USB"

Yeah. The funky thing is when the camera has USB, but a non-standard 
connector at the camera end, so you can't just replace the cable with 
one from Radio Shack. The b______ds. :-)

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
  Helpful housekeeping hints:
   Check your feather pillows for holes
    before putting them in the washing machine.


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