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From: Invisible
Subject: That muscle
Date: 13 Jun 2008 04:14:02
Message: <48522c4a$1@news.povray.org>
Every time I press my finger against my thumb, I get this painful aching 
feeling in my forearm. I guess lifting all that heavy equipment 
yesterday has strained the tendons or the muscles or something? The 
question is: WHAT IS THAT MUSCLE CALLED?

Consulting the infalible Wikipedia, I think it's the flexor carpi 
radialis...

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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 13 Jun 2008 04:51:56
Message: <4852352c$1@news.povray.org>
> Every time I press my finger against my thumb, I get this painful aching 
> feeling in my forearm. I guess lifting all that heavy equipment yesterday 
> has strained the tendons or the muscles or something? The question is: 
> WHAT IS THAT MUSCLE CALLED?
>
> Consulting the infalible Wikipedia, I think it's the flexor carpi 
> radialis...

Flexor pollicis longus maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexor_pollicis_longus_muscle

Avoid Nutra-Sweet, it can aggravate Carpal-Tunnel, I've
switched to Splenda.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 13 Jun 2008 05:43:42
Message: <4852414e@news.povray.org>
>> WHAT IS THAT MUSCLE CALLED?
> 
> Flexor pollicis longus maybe?

I don't think so. Moving my thumb doesn't hurt, it's moving my fingers 
that hurts. (I.e., curling my fingers into a fist. Especially the first 
two fingers.)

> Avoid Nutra-Sweet, it can aggravate Carpal-Tunnel, I've
> switched to Splenda.

...WTF?

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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 13 Jun 2008 14:37:02
Message: <4852be4e$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Every time I press my finger against my thumb, I get this painful aching 
> feeling in my forearm.

Well don't do that! (as if anyone could avoid it)

> I guess lifting all that heavy equipment 

Oh sure, *that's* what caused the injury. Sicko.

> yesterday has strained the tendons or the muscles or something? The 
> question is: WHAT IS THAT MUSCLE CALLED?
> 
> Consulting the infalible Wikipedia, I think it's the flexor carpi 
> radialis...
> 

I found this on emporia.edu:

"o. flexor digitorum superficialis (flex, L: "to bend"; digit, L: 
"finger or toe"; superficialis, L: "above")
- named for its action on the fingers and its location in relation to 
other muscles that flex the fingers
- originates on the humerus; inserts on second digit
- flexes the wrist and specifically the second finger"

Since the second (middle) finger seems to be the dominant opposing digit 
to the thumb, this muscle may in fact be the one causing you pain.

Sam


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 13 Jun 2008 22:48:58
Message: <4853319a$1@news.povray.org>
>> Avoid Nutra-Sweet, it can aggravate Carpal-Tunnel, I've
>> switched to Splenda.
>
> ...WTF?

I won't drink that Nutra-Sweet stuff any more,
it causes me pains almost identical to what you are
describing.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 14 Jun 2008 04:01:07
Message: <48537ac3@news.povray.org>
>>> Avoid Nutra-Sweet, it can aggravate Carpal-Tunnel, I've
>>> switched to Splenda.
>> ...WTF?
> 
> I won't drink that Nutra-Sweet stuff any more,
> it causes me pains almost identical to what you are
> describing. 

1. Why would anybody drink Nutra-Sweet in the first place?

2. How can a random chemical cause muscle injury?

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 14 Jun 2008 04:14:40
Message: <adv6545c98i5se5jns2o1d5qt04ssucn01@4ax.com>
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:01:18 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull>
wrote:

>
>1. Why would anybody drink Nutra-Sweet in the first place?
>
Because they don't want to drink sugar laden soft drinks and
manufacturers use it in diet drinks.

>2. How can a random chemical cause muscle injury?

It is not a random chemical it is a specific chemical and see below.

http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T88789.html
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     Stephen


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 14 Jun 2008 07:55:35
Message: <4853b1b7$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:01:18 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull>
> wrote:
>> 2. How can a random chemical cause muscle injury?
> It is not a random chemical it is a specific chemical and see below.
> http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T88789.html

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

"A double blind study on the effects of aspartame on persons with mood 
disorders was conducted by Dr. Ralph G. Walton. Since the study wasn't 
funded/controlled by the makers of aspartame, The Nutrasweet Company 
refused to sell him the aspartame. ... Aware that the experiment could 
not be repeated because of the danger to the test subjects ..."

However, there isn't a citation where the reader can see the results of 
this study for themselves.  The insertion of 'funded/controlled' colours 
the intent of the message to imply that Big Corporations are inherently 
Evil and invariably bias a study in their favour just by funding it. 
The other statement completely blows the comment out of the water, since 
the FDA would certainly take seriously what could only be an epidemic of 
the indicated symptoms, considering the widespread use of Aspartame.

-- 
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 14 Jun 2008 09:25:30
Message: <mlh754h4s3b6s5j77k4a6v779splnieunj@4ax.com>
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:55:32 -0400, Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom>
wrote:

>
>http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

I'm glad I don't drink the stuff, I used to as coke upset my stomach.
I stick to beer and mineral water for my fizz with the occasional
glass (bucket) of champagne.
Scary or what and why are you spelling "color" colour?  

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     Stephen


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: That muscle
Date: 14 Jun 2008 10:35:17
Message: <4853d725@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> Scary or what and why are you spelling "color" colour?  

Pretentious snobbery, I guess?  British spellings look more 'scholarly'.

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Tim Cook
http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com

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