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From: Invisible
Subject: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 10:46:20
Message: <48494dbc@news.povray.org>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/MK_MidsummerPlace_OakCourt01.JPG

Does anybody *else* think this tree is going to be dead soon?

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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 10:54:18
Message: <48494f9a$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/MK_MidsummerPlace_OakCourt01.JPG
> 
> 
> Does anybody *else* think this tree is going to be dead soon?
> 
At a guess that's in Milton Keynes(?)
Knowing the resilience of oaks I'd say that example will outlast the
buildings surrounding it by at least 300 years

John

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 11:10:50
Message: <4849537a$1@news.povray.org>
Doctor John wrote:

> At a guess that's in Milton Keynes(?)

Yes. It's in [wait for it!] Oak Walk [rimshot!]

Basically they took a 150 year old Oak and encased it in a cement and 
marble enclosure. It's really quite surreal...

> Knowing the resilience of oaks I'd say that example will outlast the
> buildings surrounding it by at least 300 years

Well they recon Oaks live up to 600 years or more... On the other hand, 
being "indoors" is not a natural condition for such an organism. (!)

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 11:51:46
Message: <48495d12$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:10:36 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> Well they recon Oaks live up to 600 years or more... On the other hand,
> being "indoors" is not a natural condition for such an organism. (!)

It's not entirely indoors, though - the sky looks pretty apparent in the 
photo....?

Jim


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 11:53:41
Message: <48495d85$1@news.povray.org>
>> Well they recon Oaks live up to 600 years or more... On the other hand,
>> being "indoors" is not a natural condition for such an organism. (!)
> 
> It's not entirely indoors, though - the sky looks pretty apparent in the 
> photo....?

Sure. There's sky above it. It's just that it's otherwise surrounded by 
marble. And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight 
shines directly onto it. (Though obviously the near-white marble 
reflects quite a bit...) I'd hazard that it probably doesn't get much 
water either, since most of the ground is under marble.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 12:04:50
Message: <48496022@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:53:20 +0100, Invisible wrote:

>>> Well they recon Oaks live up to 600 years or more... On the other
>>> hand, being "indoors" is not a natural condition for such an organism.
>>> (!)
>> 
>> It's not entirely indoors, though - the sky looks pretty apparent in
>> the photo....?
> 
> Sure. There's sky above it. It's just that it's otherwise surrounded by
> marble. And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight
> shines directly onto it. (Though obviously the near-white marble
> reflects quite a bit...) I'd hazard that it probably doesn't get much
> water either, since most of the ground is under marble.

I've seen this kind of arrangement before, and the tree has seemed to do 
quite well.  Direct sunlight isn't a 100% requirement for some types of 
trees, and I imagine there is an irrigation system in place to deliver 
water in sufficient quantities.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 12:56:31
Message: <48496c3f@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Does anybody *else* think this tree is going to be dead soon?

Folks do things like that all the time on the east coast of the USA. The 
trees are quite happy with the arrangement, having humans taking care of 
them.

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          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 12:57:26
Message: <48496c76@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight 
> shines directly onto it.

  That's an exaggeration.

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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 14:18:32
Message: <rovi449sbefa90i1v0gcd5bh8kjpjn7qfj@4ax.com>
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:53:20 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Sure. There's sky above it. It's just that it's otherwise surrounded by 
>marble. And except when the Sun is exactly overhead, little sunlight 
>shines directly onto it. (Though obviously the near-white marble 
>reflects quite a bit...) I'd hazard that it probably doesn't get much 
>water either, since most of the ground is under marble.

How do trees manage to live in crouded forrests, then?  

Plus, there's radiosity.  :-P


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Imprisoned Oak
Date: 6 Jun 2008 14:26:14
Message: <48498146$1@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/MK_MidsummerPlace_OakCourt01.JPG

> Does anybody *else* think this tree is going to be dead soon?

Many people think weird things, so yes, probably. My guess, however, would
be that it will well outlast all of us here.


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