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Doctor John wrote:
> ...That this is not a good way to win friends and influence people?
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/03/us_visa_scheme/
You know I'm going to be question any article that begins with:
"Europeans and other potential enemies of the US..."
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:25:02 -0500, Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Doctor John wrote:
>> ...That this is not a good way to win friends and influence people?
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/03/us_visa_scheme/
>
> You know I'm going to be question any article that begins with:
>
> "Europeans and other potential enemies of the US..."
Ah, so it'll affect those of us who live here as well, then.
Jim
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Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> ...That this is not a good way to win friends and influence people?
Call me nationalistic or whatever you want, but IMO the main
responsibility of a government is to protect its own people. The
intricacies of foreign relationships is always second to that (at
least when it doesn't directly affect the first responsibility).
Europe has dug somewhat of a hole for itself with its generally
lenient immigration policy, and some people, such as the US, are
wary of that.
I think it's rather telling that the people who performed the London
bombings were not foreign terrorists who had entered the country
illegally. They were British citizens. I believe that has had at least
some effect on the foreign policies of the US with respect to Europe.
(That is, it's no longer just "ah, an European citizen, thus not a
terrorist, welcome" as it may have been in the past, because nowadays
even European citizens can be muslim radical terrorists thanks to these
immigration policies.)
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- Warp
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Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
> You know I'm going to be question any article that begins with:
> "Europeans and other potential enemies of the US..."
That expression just sounded like sarcasm to me. I would be surprised
if the author wrote it seriously.
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
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> That expression just sounded like sarcasm to me. I would be surprised
> if the author wrote it seriously.
>
Not sarcasm, irony; I agree with you however.
John
--
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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Gail Shaw wrote:
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> Never? Have you ever had the pleasure of a chat with the Border Protection
> people at a US airport?
Yup. Several times and don't ask ...
> It's definitly making me reconsider visiting again.
>
You'll have to offer me serious money to get me to visit again
John
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I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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"Doctor John" <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
news:48459a58$1@news.povray.org...
> Gail Shaw wrote:
> >
> > Never? Have you ever had the pleasure of a chat with the Border
Protection
> > people at a US airport?
>
> Yup. Several times and don't ask ...
Twice for me. I found the guys in Seattle OK, and even willing to joke a
bit. The 'person' in Denver on the other hand...
Let's just say I don't like interregations at (for me) 2am after I've been
travelling for 28 hours
> You'll have to offer me serious money to get me to visit again
There's a conference I would like to attend in Seattle in November. At least
it's before the registration becomes compulsary.
Hmmm. Anyone know what the Canadian border's like on that side of the
continent?
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Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >
> > That expression just sounded like sarcasm to me. I would be surprised
> > if the author wrote it seriously.
> >
> Not sarcasm, irony; I agree with you however.
Well, according to the dictionary:
sarcasm:
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark
I really think in this case "sarcasm" is more appropriate than the
more generic (and often milder) "irony".
(Yeah, I love semantics. :P )
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- Warp
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>
>
> Doctor John wrote:
>> ...That this is not a good way to win friends and influence people?
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/03/us_visa_scheme/
>
> You know I'm going to be question any article that begins with:
>
> "Europeans and other potential enemies of the US..."
I read that as sarcasm. Maybe my needles need adjusting.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Warp wrote:
> Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>> That expression just sounded like sarcasm to me. I would be surprised
>>> if the author wrote it seriously.
>>>
>
>> Not sarcasm, irony; I agree with you however.
>
> Well, according to the dictionary:
>
> sarcasm:
> 1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
> 2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark
>
> I really think in this case "sarcasm" is more appropriate than the
> more generic (and often milder) "irony".
>
> (Yeah, I love semantics. :P )
>
I still disagree. Note the words "harsh, bitter, sharply, taunt,
sneering and cutting" in the definition. I don't think that Joe Fay
intended his remark to be anything but affectionately ironic but ymmv
John
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I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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