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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Why would the people I work for bother spending money on the guy who
> swaps the backup tapes?
And who browses the internet at work hours? ;)
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>> Why would the people I work for bother spending money on the guy who
>> swaps the backup tapes?
>
> And who browses the internet at work hours? ;)
Hey, I gotta check the Internet link is still working. ;-)
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:36:47 +0200, Gilles Tran wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 4845fdf0$1@news.povray.org...
>> We must've read the same article - bbc.co.uk? I do think that there's
>> more to the story than was there. The scary thing is that even as
>> written, it's believable.
>
> Here's the pic of the guy.
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023560/Man-threatened-arrest-
Heathrow-wearing-Transformers-T-shirt.html
Yeah, didn't look too threatening to me. :-)
> Note that he has a sri lankan name. Since Sri Lanka is home to one of
> the most ferocious terrorist organisations (they had cornered the whole
> "suicide bombing" market until Al Qaeda came along, and they have tried
> to claim the title back since) I wouldn't be surprised that people with
> this background are special targets for the authorities. Perhaps this
> works like some spam filters.
Ah, racial/ethnic profiling at its best. That explains a lot. :-)
> X-Terror-Report:
> * 0.4 M_30 Young male below thirty
> * 2.5 DK_SKIN Person with dark skin
> * 4.5 FROM_TRR_CTRY From: country with lots of terrorists *
> 4.3 CLTH_OFFENS Clothes: wearing potentially offensive message *
> 8.1 BNN_IMG Image: contains banned images including guns, bombs
> and nail clippers
>
> X-Terror-Status: Yes, score=19.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_99,M_30
> ,DK_SKIN, FROM_TRR_CTRY ,CLTH_OFFENS,BNN_IMG
You forgot on the BNN_IMG portion of the report that that list also
includes knitting needles. It probably *should* include "big
hands" (since you could cause some serious harm with big hands), but the
real filter doesn't.
Jim
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:31:18 -0400, John VanSickle wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:52:32 -0400, Warp wrote:
>>
>>> Call me nationalistic or whatever you want, but IMO the main
>>> responsibility of a government is to protect its own people.
>>
>> You don't protect the people of a nation by pissing off the rest of the
>> world, though.
>
> And you don't protect them by letting your policies be limited by the
> opinions foreigners have about those policies.
Sure, but it's not about the opinions. It's about treating people with
respect. And BTW, it's not just foreigners who have these opinions about
the policies. I live in the US, and I think it's total bullshit.
Why? Because the terrorists know what our measures are. They know
they're going to need a better fake ID to get into the country. They
know that instead of recruiting middle-eastern looking people, they need
to recruit people who look like me (average middle aged white guy).
All measures like this do is keep the stupid terrorists out. But stupid
terrorists do things like set the time on their bomb vest wrong and blow
themselves up before they leave the workshop.
It does us absolutely no good to put measures in place that depend on the
people we're trying to prevent entering the country being total idiots.
> Let's be frank. Every nation on the planet that is run by anyone with
> any brains at all makes protection of its own interests the first
> priority of its foreign policy. The French government does what it
> thinks is best for France, and if the Americans don't like it, the
> French really don't care. Same goes for the Spaniards with regard to
> Spain, the British with regard to the UK, the Germans with regard to
> Germany, the Russians with regard to Russia, and so on.
Yes, but the thing that most governments miss is that protection of one's
own interests DOES include not pissing off other countries. "Why do they
hate us?" Because we're IN the middle east. So what's our solution?
SEND MORE TROOPS. Duh, what kind of stupid foreign policy decision is
that?
> The only real difference is that much of the world has this notion that
> the US, and another nation I will not name here, are somehow not
> entitled to place their own interests first, but must, for reasons that
> never bear close scrutiny, place other nations first.
As I said, there's a difference between placing your interests first
without regard to the effect it has on other parts of the world, putting
your interests first but protecting relations with your allies, and
putting measures in place that actually work and don't *depend* on "the
enemy" being as stupid as a potted plant.
"Oh, if I want to fly in from Europe without a visa, I need to register
on a website. I guess I'll get a visa from a non-European country, fly
in to Mexico or Canada, and find a place to cross the border. Or maybe
I'll go to Haiti and hop a boat there with a bunch of immigrants - I may
not make it, but there will be plenty after me and one boat is bound to
get through."
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> "Why do they hate us?" Because we're IN the middle east.
As if it was that simple.
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:04:03 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> "Why do they hate us?" Because we're IN the middle east.
>
> As if it was that simple.
Sure there are other factors, but the major beef that Bin Laden and
others has is that unbelievers are in their holy land. Our solution to
that was to put MORE unbelievers in their land.
So, someone comes to your house uninvited, and you ask them to leave.
Instead, they invite 20 friends. Tell me you're not gonna get pissed off
about that.
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> So, someone comes to your house uninvited, and you ask them to leave.
> Instead, they invite 20 friends. Tell me you're not gonna get pissed off
> about that.
How about: You threaten to kill them and their families, and they call
the police.
It's not always that simple.
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:19:24 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> So, someone comes to your house uninvited, and you ask them to leave.
>> Instead, they invite 20 friends. Tell me you're not gonna get pissed
>> off about that.
>
> How about: You threaten to kill them and their families, and they call
> the police.
So the US is the world police?
> It's not always that simple.
It's only as complicated as we make it.
Jim
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Why would the people I work for bother spending money on the guy who
>>> swaps the backup tapes?
>>
>> And who browses the internet at work hours? ;)
>
> Hey, I gotta check the Internet link is still working. ;-)
I found this hilarious:
http://readatwork.com/
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Sure there are other factors, but the major beef that Bin Laden and
> others has is that unbelievers are in their holy land. Our solution to
> that was to put MORE unbelievers in their land.
Yeah. And the obviously correct way to get our military *out* of their
land was to start attacking our *own* country. Good move, that. ;-)
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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