math_prof <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Thanks very much.  So smooth.  I can print it in word

  I could make a comment about that, but I'll pass, just this time, to
be nice. :P

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Warp wrote:
>   For some reason OpenSuse has the policy that they never upgrade the
> kernel (nor gcc) of a given distro to the newest version. 

I've not found that to be the case. My OpenSuse machines at work have 
three different kernels, depending on when I upgraded them.

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Warp wrote:
>   Posix defines some minimum requirements, it doesn't say what else the
> OS may also implement.

And didn't MS manage to get NT certified as POSIX-compliant at some 
point?  I thought POSIX was along the lines of "here's the UNIX system 
stuff you have to support", and assumed it was talking about UNIX, and 
didn't really rule out (say) having completely non-standard semantics 
for files and such as long as you had conforming names. :-)

>   Yes, I know you don't read current events on almost anything. Solaris
> has worked on Intel hardware for quite some time, 

Like ten years ago. I tried Solaris x68 about a year after it came out, 
and went back to Windows when I found out it *didn't support Java.* WTF?

(At the time, I needed Java for my job, so out it went.)

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Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Solaris
>>> has worked on Intel hardware for quite some time, and Sun made it open
>>> source also some time ago.
> 
>> Any idea what the motivation behind this is?
> 
>   I don't know, but I guess decreased sales in the last decade.

In particular, decreased hardware sales. Sun is a hardware company, not 
a software company. Giving away software for free makes their hardware 
more attractive.

The same reason they created Java and StarOffice and all the other 
"Open" stuff.

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math_prof wrote:
> I still have to think of an "image manipulation program", since I have
> none that I use.

Doesn't MS Paint come with Windows and at least handle copy and paste of 
images?

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Like ten years ago. I tried Solaris x68 about a year after it came out, 
> and went back to Windows when I found out it *didn't support Java.* WTF?

  I'm not completely sure if you are aware or not, but that kind of
sentence sounds like you were bashing Solaris.

  (Or perhaps you are just evil and do that on purpose, and when someone
starts defending it you point out that you weren't really attacking the
current Solaris, but just a 10yo one...)

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Like ten years ago. I tried Solaris x68 about a year after it came out, 
>> and went back to Windows when I found out it *didn't support Java.* WTF?
> 
>   I'm not completely sure if you are aware or not, but that kind of
> sentence sounds like you were bashing Solaris.

You said "quite some time ago."  I clarified that means "at least ten 
years."  That's all.

No, it was just a WTF, since Sun created Java, but supported it on MS's 
operating system before they supported it on their own.

Had Sun not created Java specifically to get people away from Windows, 
it wouldn't have been a WTF.

>   (Or perhaps you are just evil and do that on purpose, and when someone
> starts defending it you point out that you weren't really attacking the
> current Solaris, but just a 10yo one...)

Um, no. I wasn't bashing Solaris at all. I was pointing out that (1) 
yes, it's been on Intel chips at least 10 years, (2) I tried it, and (3) 
still remember how surprised I was that Sun supported Java better on the 
competitor's OS than their own.

Had I not actually been developing Java for a living at the time, I 
probably wouldn't have cared.

I think you read way more "bashing" into most of my statements at this 
point than I intend.  It's merely conversation.

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Invisible wrote:
> Doctor John wrote:
>> 2.6.25 was released exactly 10 hours ago.
> 
> ...and we care because...?
> 

You know, if you want people to read your Haskell raves, you probably 
shouldn't respond this way to other people's interests...

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> In fact, you know what? I challenge you to find a Google search term 
> that finds my blog. :-P

"Orphi".  You're #5 on the list.

Or, if I do "Orphi blog", then you're #1 :)

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> St. wrote:
>> In fact, here's a screen of our viewers. I'm amazed some are still on 
>> w95!!
>> Gulp!
>
> Wait, WTF? Amiga??? What are they running, IBrowse?!

     Not sure, (possibly in the unknown part), but here's a list of browsers 
used. Interesting that IE7 never took off.

       ~Steve~


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