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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> As far as OS choices, you've got Windows, Linux and [apparently] OpenBSD
> (which, as best as I can figure out, is exactly like Linux, except that
> it it's also different somehow...)
While OpenBSD and FreeBSD are their own OSes, you are most probably
thinking about NetBSD.
They may "feel like" linux, but they have nothing to do with Linux.
They have their own kernel completely. Also they have many design principles
(eg. related to security) Linux doesn't. Read more at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbsd
> As far as I'm aware, there aren't any
> other operating systems for the IBM PC that are what you could describe
> as "usable" in the normal sense.
I know you aren't aware of many things. For example that Solaris has been
a very viable alternative unix OS for the IBM PC for some years now (some
claim it has even better out-of-the-box hardware support than many popular
linux distros).
> There are zillions of web browsers, but only a few popular ones. [For
> reasons that escape me, Lynx is apparently quite popular. Judging by my
> web logs anyway...]
Believe it or not, sometimes people must access the WWW without a
fancy graphical user interface, eg. from a text terminal. Firefox and
other similar browsers are absolutely useless in that kind of environment.
--
- Warp
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Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> http://www.michaeldolan.com/937
Sounds like anti-Solaris FUD to me.
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- Warp
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:48079ff4$1@news.povray.org...
> There are zillions of web browsers, but only a few popular ones. [For
> reasons that escape me, Lynx is apparently quite popular. Judging by my
> web logs anyway...]
I've had the same too, not many granted. Have you seen this site?
http://www.dejavu.org/
Click around. ;)
~Steve~
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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> While OpenBSD and FreeBSD are their own OSes, you are most probably
> thinking about NetBSD.
>
> They may "feel like" linux, but they have nothing to do with Linux.
> They have their own kernel completely. Also they have many design principles
> (eg. related to security) Linux doesn't. Read more at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbsd
Yeah, but aren't they all just implementations of the POSIX standard
which basically defines exactly how everything has to work anyway?
[On the other hand, I haven't actually tried any of the BSD derivatives
first, hand...]
> I know you aren't aware of many things. For example that Solaris has been
> a very viable alternative unix OS for the IBM PC for some years now (some
> claim it has even better out-of-the-box hardware support than many popular
> linux distros).
Interesting. I thought that Solaris only works on Sun hardware. [And,
either way, that it's quite expensive].
>> There are zillions of web browsers, but only a few popular ones. [For
>> reasons that escape me, Lynx is apparently quite popular. Judging by my
>> web logs anyway...]
>
> Believe it or not, sometimes people must access the WWW without a
> fancy graphical user interface, eg. from a text terminal.
Interesting... You would think that's a pretty rare requirement.
You would also think that nobody doing this would be bothering to read
*my* insignificant blog, but hey...
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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> Interesting... You would think that's a pretty rare requirement.
Go download Apache source code from a remote server you're ssh'ing to.
Do you remember the URL to the .tar.gz? Probably not.
lynx httpd.apache.org, browse, and download.
Not to mention Googling for troubleshooting information from said
server, and maybe ending up in a *blog* explaining how to fix a problem
or another.
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In fact, here's a screen of our viewers. I'm amazed some are still on w95!!
Gulp!
~Steve~
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BTW, I downloaded lynx for the iPod touch :P Only really usable from
ssh, using it from the Terminal app is painful. Particularly due to its
lack of widescreen support.
But hey, some people even ported X-based apps, even though there is no X
server. You can use your iPod from a remote X server, now that's weird...
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I thought webtv was supposed to be BIG?
~Steve~
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:36:07 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Well, if it's so great, why release a new version of the kernel?
Because in complex software, there are *always* things that can be fixed,
made better, etc.
Jim
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>> Interesting... You would think that's a pretty rare requirement.
>
> Go download Apache source code from a remote server you're ssh'ing to.
> Do you remember the URL to the .tar.gz? Probably not.
>
> lynx httpd.apache.org, browse, and download.
I did this. Not for Apache, but for an ancient laptop that's sitting
underneith a USB printer acting as an IPP print server. Unfortunately,
the only way to get the driver to work is to download a tarball, work
out how to unpack it, and manually compile it. [Almost unbelievably,
this does actually work.]
Obviously, I did all the document reading from the machine at my desk.
But since I don't know of a way of getting a file from the computer at
my desk to the machine I'm SSH connected to, I was forced to use Lynx to
download it. [Man, I would *not* recommend anybody else try this, ever!]
But surely all of this is just because I suck at Linux? Surely if you
know how to work Linux properly, you'd look up the URL on your own PC
and just use mget or something on the remote?
> Not to mention Googling for troubleshooting information from said
> server, and maybe ending up in a *blog* explaining how to fix a problem
> or another.
1. If *my* blog is linked from anywhere, I'll be seriously amazed!
2. If my blog contains any *useful* info, I'll be ultra-amazed.
In fact, you know what? I challenge you to find a Google search term
that finds my blog. :-P
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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