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The English language contains some pretty strange phrases. For example,
"there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God would
anybody wish to skin a cat??)
Of course, most people know what all these phrases mean (and therefore
to some extent don't notice them). Being a socially defective human, I
have come across quite a few phrases that I don't actually understand
the meaning of. For example,
"pony up"
What the heck is that supposed to mean? I could take quite a few
guesses, but this is the kind of thing where unless you *know* the
answer, there's really no way to deduce it logically. Similarly,
"put out"
Where I'm from, if somebody is "put out" it means they're dissapointed.
However, I've seen this in sentence constructions where that
interpretation doesn't make any sense. (For example,
http://www.bash.org/?635032 )
And then there's things like
"stick it to 'em!"
Now what is that supposed to mean? Similarly,
"riding shotgun"
Wuh?
Also, what *precisely* does
"make out"
actually mean? From context I have some idea, but I'm unsure of the
exact meaning. Similarly,
"third base"
and, while we're on the subject,
"off base"
Hmm... I need to get out more. :-S
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On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:21:06 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>The English language contains some pretty strange phrases.
Rune (iirc) posted this link a while ago
http://www.wordwizard.com/
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Invisible wrote:
> "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God would
> anybody wish to skin a cat??)
If you're going to eat a cat, it's best to skin it first.
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Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God
>> would anybody wish to skin a cat??)
>
> If you're going to eat a cat, it's best to skin it first.
...which leads us to "why in the name of sweet purity would you want to
*eat* a cat?? There's no friggin' MEAT on it!"
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Invisible wrote:
> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>> Invisible wrote:
>>> "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God
>>> would anybody wish to skin a cat??)
>>
>> If you're going to eat a cat, it's best to skin it first.
>
> ...which leads us to "why in the name of sweet purity would you want to
> *eat* a cat?? There's no friggin' MEAT on it!"
They must have at least as much meat as a rabbit. And rabbits are good
eatin'.
Incidentally, if you're in some foreign food bazaar looking at what look
like skinned rabbits hanging up, there's a simple way to make sure
they're not cats. Cats' kidneys are side-by-side across the spine, like
ours. Rabbits' kidneys are also separated by several inches along the
spine, asymmetrically.
:-)
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> The English language contains some pretty strange phrases...
Of the various site dealing with this sort of thing, I like:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/index.html
BTW, I agree about the cat thing. Now, if the phrase was "There's more than one
way to skin a chihuahua"...
(Kidding, of course. Sane people don't inflict pain on living things no matter
HOW irritating the whiny snarling ill-tempered little vermin are.)
Best Regards,
Mike C.
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Mike the Elder wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>> The English language contains some pretty strange phrases...
>
> Of the various site dealing with this sort of thing, I like:
> http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/index.html
>
> BTW, I agree about the cat thing. Now, if the phrase was "There's more than one
> way to skin a chihuahua"...
>
> (Kidding, of course. Sane people don't inflict pain on living things no matter
> HOW irritating the whiny snarling ill-tempered little vermin are.)
>
> Best Regards,
> Mike C.
There's more than one way to skin a banana?
Nope. Doen't have the same flavour
John
--
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
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> "pony up"
'Pony' is a slang monetary term, and iirc, it means £25 or £50. When you
"Pony up" you are also "Divvying up" which basically means either "pay up"
or "Lend me some money".
> "put out"
>
> Where I'm from, if somebody is "put out" it means they're dissapointed.
> However, I've seen this in sentence constructions where that
> interpretation doesn't make any sense. (For example,
> http://www.bash.org/?635032 )
In that context, I think he's talking about girls "putting it about" or
"Put out" - can't say I've heard that tem though.
>
> And then there's things like
>
> "stick it to 'em!"
Back in the days when guns were rare, you'd have a dagger, a sword or
a staff to defend yourself. "Stick it to 'em!"
>
> Now what is that supposed to mean? Similarly,
>
> "riding shotgun"
Riding shotgun in modern terms as I know it is being a passenger on a
motorcycle or in a side-car on a motorcycle. But back in the Old Wild West
where cowboy bandits would try to rob a stage coach, the stage coach would
often have a guy sitting alongside the driver with a shotgun.
>
> Wuh?
>
> Also, what *precisely* does
>
> "make out"
As it says Andrew, as it says. ;)
> "third base"
Generally means that you are approaching the 'last base', or getting
close to the end of what you're doing.
>
> and, while we're on the subject,
>
> "off base"
Not really sure about that one - it might have many connotations.
> Hmm... I need to get out more. :-S
<Mr. O. Hardy> "You most certainly do Stanley, you most certainly do..."
;)
~Steve~
>
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> (Why in the name of God would anybody wish to skin a cat??)
Because it will annoy the cat...
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St. escribió:
> "Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
>> "make out"
>
> As it says Andrew, as it says. ;)
I actually had to look that one up (months ago). Phrasal verbs are
always confusing. There is a dozen prepositions you can put in front of
verbs to make them mean something completely different.
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"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmail is the best com> wrote in message
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> St. escribió:
>> "Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
>>> "make out"
>>
>> As it says Andrew, as it says. ;)
>
> I actually had to look that one up (months ago). Phrasal verbs are always
> confusing. There is a dozen prepositions you can put in front of verbs to
> make them mean something completely different.
Well, yes, there's that too.
"Did you make out with robbing that cab driver?"
I don't think anyone thinks of it in that context though. <shrug>
~Steve~
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Invisible wrote:
> "pony up"
> What the heck is that supposed to mean?
It means "add your investment to the pile". "Pony" was slang for some
amount of money I don't remember.
> "put out"
> Where I'm from, if somebody is "put out" it means they're dissapointed.
That's the adjective. The verb "to put out" means to be willing to
engage in sexual relations.
> And then there's things like
> "stick it to 'em!"
> Now what is that supposed to mean?
It means leave someone else with the problem. The "it" being the problem.
> "riding shotgun"
https://www.wellsfargo.com/about/history/stagecoach/
Back when money actually *was* gold, people would move it between banks
with stagecoaches.
See the two drivers? One is steering the horses. The other is riding
shotgun. You had to deal with the one riding shotgun if you tried to
steal the luggage/gold.
> "make out"
> actually mean? From context I have some idea, but I'm unsure of the
> exact meaning. Similarly,
"Necking" is another term for it. Doing sexual things without actually
being sexual.
> "third base"
In baseball, you travel between first base, second base, third base, and
home plate. Not unlike the wickets in cricket if you know about that.
In a sexual connotation, there's kissing, fondling of breasts, fondling
of crotch, and actually "home base". Or something like that.
> and, while we're on the subject,
> "off base"
In baseball, if you're not actually in contact with the base (the bag of
cloth), if you get tagged by the ball, you're "out" (i.e., you lose your
chance to score a point). Runners will often take a few steps closer to
the next base in order to arrive faster, and occasionally get tagged
out. Hence, if you're "off base" it means you're somewhat wrong in a bad
way.
> Hmm... I need to get out more. :-S
You just need more girlfriends, sports, and fire arms.
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"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:57:26 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com>
wrote:
>> And then there's things like
>> "stick it to 'em!"
>> Now what is that supposed to mean?
>
>It means leave someone else with the problem. The "it" being the problem.
As Steve said, here it means or used to mean, stab him. Altho I hear
your version more and more often.
I wonder if it's divergence then convergence or just convergence.
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Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>>> Invisible wrote:
>>>> "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God
>>>> would anybody wish to skin a cat??)
>>>
>>> If you're going to eat a cat, it's best to skin it first.
>>
>> ...which leads us to "why in the name of sweet purity would you want
>> to *eat* a cat?? There's no friggin' MEAT on it!"
>
> They must have at least as much meat as a rabbit. And rabbits are good
> eatin'.
>
> Incidentally, if you're in some foreign food bazaar looking at what look
> like skinned rabbits hanging up, there's a simple way to make sure
> they're not cats. Cats' kidneys are side-by-side across the spine, like
> ours. Rabbits' kidneys are also separated by several inches along the
> spine, asymmetrically.
>
Why would you want to make the distinction? They taste much like rabbit,
or so I am told.
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> BTW, I agree about the cat thing. Now, if the phrase was "There's more
> than one
> way to skin a chihuahua"...
>
> (Kidding, of course. Sane people don't inflict pain on living things no
> matter
> HOW irritating the whiny snarling ill-tempered little vermin are.)
101 Uses for a Dead Cat, this is really funny stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/101-Uses-Dead-Simon-Bond/dp/0517545160
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:18:42 -0700, "Tim Attwood"
<tim### [at] comcast net> wrote:
>
>101 Uses for a Dead Cat, this is really funny stuff.
>http://www.amazon.com/101-Uses-Dead-Simon-Bond/dp/0517545160
>
How old is that? I remember when it came out.
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Stephen
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Invisible wrote:
> The English language contains some pretty strange phrases. For example,
> "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God would
> anybody wish to skin a cat??)
I dunno about doing it in God's name, but a cat skin, properly tanned,
is very useful when teaching children about static electricity.
Regards,
John
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John VanSickle escribió:
> Invisible wrote:
>> The English language contains some pretty strange phrases. For
>> example, "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name
>> of God would anybody wish to skin a cat??)
>
> I dunno about doing it in God's name, but a cat skin, properly tanned,
> is very useful when teaching children about static electricity.
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/12/03/no-moar-rub-kitteh-wif-baloon-plz/
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> How old is that? I remember when it came out.
Perty old, early 80's?
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:33:02 -0700, "Tim Attwood"
<tim### [at] comcast net> wrote:
>> How old is that? I remember when it came out.
>
>Perty old, early 80's?
>
It must be - toastrack :)
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>> "pony up"
>> What the heck is that supposed to mean?
>
> It means "add your investment to the pile". "Pony" was slang for some
> amount of money I don't remember.
£25. Apparently. And, according to Wikipedia, "pony up" means "pay up".
>> "put out"
>> Where I'm from, if somebody is "put out" it means they're dissapointed.
>
> That's the adjective. The verb "to put out" means to be willing to
> engage in sexual relations.
Oooo...
>> And then there's things like
>> "stick it to 'em!"
>> Now what is that supposed to mean?
>
> It means leave someone else with the problem. The "it" being the problem.
Mmm'k.
>> "riding shotgun"
>
> https://www.wellsfargo.com/about/history/stagecoach/
>
> Back when money actually *was* gold, people would move it between banks
> with stagecoaches.
>
> See the two drivers? One is steering the horses. The other is riding
> shotgun. You had to deal with the one riding shotgun if you tried to
> steal the luggage/gold.
Right. Seems pretty obscure - but then, I found it in a computer game.
It's probably meant for nerds or something...
>> "make out"
>> actually mean? From context I have some idea, but I'm unsure of the
>> exact meaning. Similarly,
>
> "Necking" is another term for it. Doing sexual things without actually
> being sexual.
Contradiction, by Kelvin Kline.
>> "third base"
>
> In baseball, you travel between first base, second base, third base, and
> home plate.
No kidding.
> In a sexual connotation, there's kissing, fondling of breasts, fondling
> of crotch, and actually "home base". Or something like that.
Riiiight... Weird sports euphamisms.
>> and, while we're on the subject,
>> "off base"
>
> In baseball, if you're not actually in contact with the base (the bag of
> cloth), if you get tagged by the ball, you're "out" (i.e., you lose your
> chance to score a point). Runners will often take a few steps closer to
> the next base in order to arrive faster, and occasionally get tagged
> out. Hence, if you're "off base" it means you're somewhat wrong in a bad
> way.
Hmm, right.
>> Hmm... I need to get out more. :-S
>
> You just need more girlfriends, sports, and fire arms.
Uh... at the same time? Yay for me... :-}
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Right. Seems pretty obscure - but then, I found it in a computer game.
> It's probably meant for nerds or something...
Not really obscure, so much as culturally significant. Around here,
just about everyone is aware of all these phrases.
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Darren New wrote:
> You just need more girlfriends, sports, and fire arms.
Sounds like good advice for anyone!
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Chambers wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> You just need more girlfriends, sports, and fire arms.
>
> Sounds like good advice for anyone!
Maybe I should suggest it to my sister?
Oh, wait...
...she already earns £32k a year.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> £25. Apparently. And, according to Wikipedia, "pony up" means "pay up".
Yeah. The only place I've actually heard it was where the "investement"
was an investment in a poker game. :-)
> Right. Seems pretty obscure - but then, I found it in a computer game.
> It's probably meant for nerds or something...
I think it's less obscure in a country where you actually had people
riding shotgun. :-) Did they do that sort of thing in England?
>> In baseball, you travel between first base, second base, third base,
>> and home plate.
>
> No kidding.
You say that like I should have known you knew that. ;-)
--
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"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Darren New wrote:
>> Right. Seems pretty obscure - but then, I found it in a computer game.
>> It's probably meant for nerds or something...
>
> I think it's less obscure in a country where you actually had people
> riding shotgun. :-) Did they do that sort of thing in England?
No idea. I live within walking distance of a pair of famous stage coach
stopping points though...
>>> In baseball, you travel between first base, second base, third base,
>>> and home plate.
>>
>> No kidding.
>
> You say that like I should have known you knew that. ;-)
I have a vague grabs of many sporting activities. I have NO FRIGGIN IDEA
what the offside rule is though...
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On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:58:32 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com>
wrote:
>
>I think it's less obscure in a country where you actually had people
>riding shotgun. :-) Did they do that sort of thing in England?
Actually, except for Andrew, we know about "riding shotgun" here. It
is a borrowed phrase from America :)
If we had a similar term it has gone the way of the groat :)
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On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:49:03 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom>
wrote:
I forgot to mention. It means; sitting besides the driver, here in the
UK.
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
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> Contradiction, by Kelvin Kline.
??
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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> a écrit dans le message de
news: 47f7fa88@news.povray.org...
>
> "Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
> news:47f73026$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> Contradiction, by Kelvin Kline.
It's a perfume by Calvin Klein.
I got confused too, wondering if that was some quote from Kevin Kline that I
didn't remember from A Fish called Wanda.
G.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> Darren New wrote:
>>> You just need more girlfriends, sports, and fire arms.
>>
>> Sounds like good advice for anyone!
>
> Maybe I should suggest it to my sister?
I'd *love* to see your sister have more girlfriends, sports, and
firearms! :) Would you have any pictures you'd like to share? :o
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"Gilles Tran" <gitran_nospam_@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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>
> "Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> a écrit dans le message de
> news: 47f7fa88@news.povray.org...
> >
> > "Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
> > news:47f73026$1@news.povray.org...
> >
> >> Contradiction, by Kelvin Kline.
>
> It's a perfume by Calvin Klein.
> I got confused too, wondering if that was some quote from Kevin Kline that
I
> didn't remember from A Fish called Wanda.
Ah. I was wondering.
It's just that I know a Kevin Kline.
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> It must be - toastrack :)
What's wrong with toastracks?
There's a mumified cat under my house,
maybe I should go get it out and wrap it
in plaster of paris.
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>> Contradiction, by Kelvin Kline.
>
> ??
A fragrance for a man or a women.
I want somebody to want me. But not to need me. I want them to want me,
without needing me. Does that make sense.
Contradiction. The fragrance.
GAAAAH!!! GOD DAMN YOU CHEESY ADVERTISING?!
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Chambers wrote:
> I'd *love* to see your sister have more girlfriends, sports, and
> firearms! :) Would you have any pictures you'd like to share? :o
Well, since you asked so nicely... here's my sister.
(The drunk dude next to her is me!)
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I have a vague grabs of many sporting activities. I have NO FRIGGIN IDEA
> what the offside rule is though...
Nor do most of the Premiership refs :-)
John
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I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
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> >> Contradiction, by Kelvin Kline.
> >
> > ??
>
> A fragrance for a man or a women.
Calvin Klein does perfumes
Kevin Kline (the one I know) is the former president of a SQL Server
association.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>
>> I'd *love* to see your sister have more girlfriends, sports, and
>> firearms! :) Would you have any pictures you'd like to share? :o
>
> Well, since you asked so nicely... here's my sister.
>
> (The drunk dude next to her is me!)
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>
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>
Well, that's her with alcohol. Now what about her with other girls and
guns? :)
Other than that, you don't look like I expected, but what you look like
fits you. Were you graduating, or just out for a good time?
--
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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Chambers wrote:
> Well, that's her with alcohol. Now what about her with other girls and
> guns? :)
LOL!
I wonder... do I have... yes, I do! Check out the attachment! ;-)
> Other than that, you don't look like I expected, but what you look like
> fits you. Were you graduating, or just out for a good time?
Yeah, it was my graduation.
Check out the black cape. Woo!!
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Orchid XP v8 escribió:
> I wonder... do I have... yes, I do! Check out the attachment! ;-)
Did your sister give you permission to post her pictures?
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"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmail is the best com> wrote in message
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> Orchid XP v8 escribió:
>> I wonder... do I have... yes, I do! Check out the attachment! ;-)
>
> Did your sister give you permission to post her pictures?
And if the answer is a yes or no, your reply is...?
~Steve~
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andrel wrote:
> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>> Invisible wrote:
>>> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>>>> Invisible wrote:
>>>>> "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God
>>>>> would anybody wish to skin a cat??)
>>>>
>>>> If you're going to eat a cat, it's best to skin it first.
>>>
>>> ...which leads us to "why in the name of sweet purity would you want
>>> to *eat* a cat?? There's no friggin' MEAT on it!"
>>
>> They must have at least as much meat as a rabbit. And rabbits are good
>> eatin'.
>>
>> Incidentally, if you're in some foreign food bazaar looking at what
>> look like skinned rabbits hanging up, there's a simple way to make
>> sure they're not cats. Cats' kidneys are side-by-side across the
>> spine, like ours. Rabbits' kidneys are also separated by several
>> inches along the spine, asymmetrically.
>>
>
> Why would you want to make the distinction? They taste much like rabbit,
> or so I am told.
Well, many people are more squeamish about some animals than others. It
wouldn't bother me particularly either but I thought it was interesting!
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Stephen wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:49:03 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom>
> wrote:
>
> I forgot to mention. It means; sitting besides the driver, here in the
> UK.
Yup. When embarking on a road journey with a full car, whoever remembers
to say 'shotgun!' first bags the front passenger seat. A sort of
informal road trip etiquette, if you like :-)
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"Tim Attwood" <tim### [at] comcast net> wrote:
> > It must be - toastrack :)
> What's wrong with toastracks?
It is one of the uses for a dead cat :)
> There's a mumified cat under my house,
> maybe I should go get it out and wrap it
> in plaster of paris.
Is that not for Juju reasons? :)
Arrg! Now I’ll be flamed by the religious right
Stephen
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Damn it, QC keeps throwing new words at me to look up...
What the hell does "existential" mean anyway? I can't get anything
sensible out of Wiktionary...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:15:27 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>Damn it, QC keeps throwing new words at me to look up...
>
>What the hell does "existential" mean anyway? I can't get anything
>sensible out of Wiktionary...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism
--
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism
.........OK, *now* I'm depressed! :-S
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:15:27 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> Damn it, QC keeps throwing new words at me to look up...
>
> What the hell does "existential" mean anyway? I can't get anything
> sensible out of Wiktionary...
http://www.m-w.com or http://www.dictionary.com are your friends here.
Jim
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