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http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/8bad/
I sooooo need one of those. It describes me perfectl
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> I sooooo need one of those. It describes me perfectl
It's the story of my life. So many great ideas, so little time to
complete them.
I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to
realise that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the
will to go on with the project. :-(
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
news:47f5e9de@news.povray.org...
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
>> I sooooo need one of those. It describes me perfectl
>
> It's the story of my life. So many great ideas, so little time to complete
> them.
>
> I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
> really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
> cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to realise
> that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the will to go
> on with the project. :-(
Well, you shouldn't be thinking like that Andrew, you should be doing
for your own satisfaction.
~Steve~
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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>> I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
>> really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
>> cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to realise
>> that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the will to go
>> on with the project. :-(
>
> Well, you shouldn't be thinking like that Andrew, you should be doing
> for your own satisfaction.
Yeah, but what's the point of achievement without rewards? Or at least
recognition?
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:47f5f1cd$1@news.povray.org...
>>> I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
>>> really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
>>> cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to
>>> realise that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the
>>> will to go on with the project. :-(
>>
>> Well, you shouldn't be thinking like that Andrew, you should be doing
>> for your own satisfaction.
>
> Yeah, but what's the point of achievement without rewards? Or at least
> recognition?
Well, one thing I've learnt is that you need to perfect whatever it is
you're doing first, and 'then' you can show the whole world and possibly get
those rewards or recognition.
~Steve~
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
47f5f1cd$1@news.povray.org...
> Yeah, but what's the point of achievement without rewards? Or at least
> recognition?
There are lots of motivational targets, including those, but if recognition
is your only one you're in for a lifetime of disappointment.
Be happy doing the stuff you like and do it for your own enjoyment/mystical
fulfillment/whatever rocks your personal boat. You can't expect people to
like what you do if you don't enjoy doing it the first place...
G.
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> There are lots of motivational targets, including those, but if recognition
> is your only one you're in for a lifetime of disappointment.
> Be happy doing the stuff you like and do it for your own enjoyment/mystical
> fulfillment/whatever rocks your personal boat. You can't expect people to
> like what you do if you don't enjoy doing it the first place...
I *enjoy* what I do - it's just that after I've done it, it feels
horribly hollow.
It's like, the other day I build a logic predicate solver. I was really
excited. I mentioned it here, and one person told me that I can't spell
"cleaver", and another told me I'd reinvented Prolog. Yay for me. :-\
It would just be nice if now and then I could do something that actually
*impresses* somebody...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:41:38 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
>> I sooooo need one of those. It describes me perfectl
>
>It's the story of my life. So many great ideas, so little time to
>complete them.
>
>I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
>really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
>cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to
>realise that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the
>will to go on with the project. :-(
Hey Andrew, it's really awesome that you completed writing message number
47f5e9de@news.povray.org in reply to Nicolas! Great job!!! Very cool!
Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-)
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Kyle wrote:
> Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-)
As infinite as the vastness of space... so is this newgroup post in
degrees or worthlessness. :-P
--
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> It would just be nice if now and then I could do something that actually
> *impresses* somebody...
I was impressed, I'd have no idea where to start writing something like
that. Haskell programs just confuse me :-S
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Am Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:33:31 +0100 schrieb Invisible:
> As infinite as the vastness of space... so is this newgroup post in
> degrees or worthlessness. :-P
Let me guess.. you just found the commentary area in Concerned?
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Michael Zier wrote:
> Let me guess.. you just found the commentary area in Concerned?
Nooo.... I found it ages ago. It just seemed appropriate here. :-P
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scott wrote:
>> It would just be nice if now and then I could do something that
>> actually *impresses* somebody...
>
> I was impressed, I'd have no idea where to start writing something like
> that. Haskell programs just confuse me :-S
I find it "interesting" that somebody who can comprehend something is
complex and counterintuitive as electrical engineering would be baffled
by something as simple and logical as Haskell. But there we are...
Hmm, now I just find myself doubting my Haskell exposition skills. :-S
Anyway, it least *somebody* was moderately impressed with something I
did. Even if I did copy the algorithm out of a book...
--
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> It's like, the other day I build a logic predicate solver. I was really
> excited. I mentioned it here, and one person told me that I can't spell
> "cleaver", and another told me I'd reinvented Prolog. Yay for me. :-\
>
> It would just be nice if now and then I could do something that actually
> *impresses* somebody...
I was impressed too, but I usually only poke my head in around here long enough
for people to say, "Who was that guy?" so I didn't say anything. Maybe try
turning a project into people something people can use. Put the ball in
someone else's court, then you don't have to worry about, "Now what?"
- Ricky
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> I find it "interesting" that somebody who can comprehend something is
> complex and counterintuitive as electrical engineering would be baffled by
> something as simple and logical as Haskell. But there we are...
Maybe it's because I learnt electrical engineering over a period of many
years... I've only known about Haskell since you mentioned it on here and
never made much effort to really study it.
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
47f618fd$1@news.povray.org...
> It's like, the other day I build a logic predicate solver. I was really
> excited. I mentioned it here, and one person told me that I can't spell
> "cleaver", and another told me I'd reinvented Prolog. Yay for me. :-\
You just can't expect people to heap praise on you on the interwebs because
you did something interesting, period. And the ability to appreciate the
greatness of a "logic predicate solver" (whatever that is) isn't exactly
mainstream, even for this group. Now, if you had a side business selling
Star Wars figurines made from your own dried boogers, you'd have a better
feedback for sure :D
> It would just be nice if now and then I could do something that actually
> *impresses* somebody...
Well, start by using a spell-checker and double-checking everything you
write for factual accuracy. If your fly is wide open, people are going to
notice *** that *** instead of admiring your gorgeous Armani suit ;)
G.
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> You just can't expect people to heap praise on you on the interwebs because
> you did something interesting, period. And the ability to appreciate the
> greatness of a "logic predicate solver" (whatever that is) isn't exactly
> mainstream, even for this group.
Wait... You're telling me I'm too geek even for pov-ray.off-topic? o_O
Woah. I think I need to sit down...
>> It would just be nice if now and then I could do something that actually
>> *impresses* somebody...
>
> Well, start by using a spell-checker and double-checking everything you
> write for factual accuracy. If your fly is wide open, people are going to
> notice *** that *** instead of admiring your gorgeous Armani suit ;)
Hmm. If only I could make the spell checker in Thunderbird work again...
--
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"Gilles Tran" <gil### [at] agroparistechfr> wrote in message
news:47f62f22$1@news.povray.org...
> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 47f618fd$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> It's like, the other day I build a logic predicate solver. I was really
>> excited. I mentioned it here, and one person told me that I can't spell
>> "cleaver", and another told me I'd reinvented Prolog. Yay for me. :-\
>
> You just can't expect people to heap praise on you on the interwebs
> because you did something interesting, period. And the ability to
> appreciate the greatness of a "logic predicate solver" (whatever that is)
> isn't exactly mainstream, even for this group. Now, if you had a side
> business selling Star Wars figurines made from your own dried boogers,
> you'd have a better feedback for sure :D
LOL! Every now and again Gilles, you make my day worth it... :o)
~Steve~
> G.
>
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Invisible escribió:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
>> I sooooo need one of those. It describes me perfectl
>
> It's the story of my life. So many great ideas, so little time to
> complete them.
>
> I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
> really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
> cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to
> realise that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the
> will to go on with the project. :-(
My problem with losing motivation isn't because nobody says "hey that's
cool". It's because I find yet another cool idea, and abandon what I was
doing previously. Then those unfinished projects accumulate.
About your problem... Make a program to simulate "that's cool" newsgroup
posts? :)
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Invisible escribió:
> Hmm. If only I could make the spell checker in Thunderbird work again...
Then we would be impressed.
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I *enjoy* what I do - it's just that after I've done it, it feels
> horribly hollow.
....
I do understand. Whenever that old "Why-am-I-knocking-myself-out-for-a-bunch-of
greedy-selfish-hairless-monkeys-wallowing-in-their-self-imposed-ignorance?"
feeling gets me down, there's a little song by the Bonzo Dog Do-Dah Band that
cheers me right up.
I was lucky enough to find a link to it (with some nifty clay-mation) here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aolMV0oNCBE
Enjoy.
Best Regards,
Mike C.
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Invisible wrote:
> Yeah, but what's the point of achievement without rewards? Or at least
> recognition?
>
The fun of getting there, and the knowledge that you did.
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>> Yeah, but what's the point of achievement without rewards? Or at least
>> recognition?
>
> The fun of getting there, and the knowledge that you did.
Not to mention the knowledge that some ancient Greek guy figured out the
solution back in 842 BC and if you'd just read a book, you could have
saved yourself 8 pages of algebra...
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote
> I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
> really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
> cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to
> realise that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the
> will to go on with the project. :-(
Then do stuff for which people will give a ****
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote
> It would just be nice if now and then I could do something that actually
> *impresses* somebody...
Impressing people online is more improbable than winning the lottery. With
something like half the world online (OK, making that up, but probably
close), even if you are in the top 0.001% of the population in any given
category, it means there are probably over 10,000 others who are better than
you, and we have all already seen their work, read their blogs, watched
their videos... etc. The solution? Buy a lottery ticket.
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. wrote:
> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote
>
>> I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
>> really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
>> cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to
>> realise that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the
>> will to go on with the project. :-(
>
> Then do stuff for which people will give a ****
Heh. As if I could ever pull *that* off...
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Mike the Elder wrote:
> I was lucky enough to find a link to it (with some nifty clay-mation) here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aolMV0oNCBE
Sometimes I can't help but feel that YouTube will be the downfall of
society :(
--
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www.pacificwebguy.com
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Invisible wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
>> I sooooo need one of those. It describes me perfectl
>
> It's the story of my life. So many great ideas, so little time to
> complete them.
>
> I think part of my problem is motivation. When I've completed something
> really cool, I want people to gather round and say "hey, that's really
> cool Andrew!" Usually about half way through a project I start to
> realise that nobody on Earth is going to give a ****, and I loose the
> will to go on with the project. :-(
>
My problem is I simply don't read every thread, and don't reply to all
the ones I do. Since I've seen many thousands of threads of posts which
are nothing but "Cool!" or "Wow!" or "lol" and nothing else, I've
stopped posting such replies myself. They feel a bit too close to spam
for me.
That doesn't mean I'm not impressed; I just don't feel I have anything
worthwhile to contribute to the thread.
--
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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Chambers wrote:
> My problem is I simply don't read every thread, and don't reply to all
> the ones I do. Since I've seen many thousands of threads of posts which
> are nothing but "Cool!" or "Wow!" or "lol" and nothing else, I've
> stopped posting such replies myself. They feel a bit too close to spam
> for me.
>
> That doesn't mean I'm not impressed; I just don't feel I have anything
> worthwhile to contribute to the thread.
Heh. Maybe that's why nobody comments when I write something in my blog.
Maybe I should just assume that no comments = everybody is intimidated
by the sheer awesomness of what I just wrote and doesn't want to spoil
the moment with cheap Monty Python references? :-D
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On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:07:22 -0700, Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom>
wrote:
>
>My problem is I simply don't read every thread, and don't reply to all
>the ones I do. Since I've seen many thousands of threads of posts which
>are nothing but "Cool!" or "Wow!" or "lol" and nothing else, I've
>stopped posting such replies myself. They feel a bit too close to spam
>for me.
>
>That doesn't mean I'm not impressed; I just don't feel I have anything
>worthwhile to contribute to the thread.
Well put! Even so I wasn't impressed, I don't know enough to be
impressed. I've worked in/with computers for coming up to 40 years and
that programming thing is not my thing.
Andrew you can talk to Dr John about that next week. I'm looking
forward to meeting you.
--
Regards
Stephen
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