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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 3 Apr 2008 21:52:16
Message: <47f597e0@news.povray.org>
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>> That's weird, I'm not registered, and it never bothered me.
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> I just read carefully the URL that it redirected me to.
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> Now I want to kill a webdev.
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> "&REFUSE_COOKIE_ERROR=SHOW_ERROR"
So yeah, enabled cookies and read the thing.
Quite a good article. Maybe Wagner should be put inside the collider :)
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> In fact, isn't it totally retarded that it requires cookies in
> the first place?
No. What's totally retarded is building statefull apps on top of HTTP.
Right up there with custom login forms when HTTP has a perfectly good
login mechanism.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 3 Apr 2008 22:49:43
Message: <47f5a557$1@news.povray.org>
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> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> In fact, isn't it totally retarded that it requires cookies in the
>> first place?
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> No. What's totally retarded is building statefull apps on top of HTTP.
> Right up there with custom login forms when HTTP has a perfectly good
> login mechanism.
HTTP auth is not "perfectly good"; but I agree with the general sentiment.
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 3 Apr 2008 23:28:14
Message: <47f5ae5e@news.povray.org>
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"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote in message
news:47f52c1c$1@news.povray.org...
> >
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/science/29collider.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3&
hp
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> Bleh. Registration required.
As an alternative
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/dn13555-particle-smasher-not-a-t
hreat-to-the-earth.html?feedId=online-news_rss20
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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 4 Apr 2008 05:13:49
Message: <47f5ff5d$1@news.povray.org>
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Warp wrote:
> Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> The trouble is, most people don't realise that when a scientist says
>> something is unlikely, they could easily be talking about a 1 in 1e30
>> chance or less. Basic honesty and innate pedantry forbids them from
>> saying outright that something is impossible because they don't honestly
>> know for absolute certainty. Of course, the slightest chance that a
>> pico-blackhole with less mass than a proton could appear and start to
>> eat the earth, however slowly or briefly, can very easily be used by the
>> press to sell at least 1e30 papers...
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> I think that it's a lot more likely that a black hole travelling at
> almost c towards us will collide with the Earth in the next 10 years
> than a micro-blackhole created by humans eating the Earth.
Agreed. If it's very small we probably wouldn't even notice.
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 4 Apr 2008 10:25:02
Message: <47f6484e@news.povray.org>
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> Agreed. If it's very small we probably wouldn't even notice.
If it's big, you think we would notice either? :)
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 4 Apr 2008 11:43:49
Message: <47f65ac5@news.povray.org>
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> HTTP auth is not "perfectly good"; but I agree with the general sentiment.
What's wrong with it, other than being limited to name/password as input?
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 4 Apr 2008 12:07:33
Message: <47f66055@news.povray.org>
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> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> HTTP auth is not "perfectly good"; but I agree with the general
>> sentiment.
>
> What's wrong with it, other than being limited to name/password as input?
A good start is: how do you logout?
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 4 Apr 2008 12:10:35
Message: <47f6610b@news.povray.org>
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> A good start is: how do you logout?
You shouldn't need to. You're not connected to the site between page
fetches. In terms of "how do I remove the password from my machine",
that would be a local matter.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: As if we didn't have enough to worry about...
Date: 4 Apr 2008 12:27:09
Message: <47f664ed@news.povray.org>
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> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> A good start is: how do you logout?
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> You shouldn't need to. You're not connected to the site between page
> fetches. In terms of "how do I remove the password from my machine",
> that would be a local matter.
Exactly. Browsers give no UI to stop sending the login information to
the server.
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