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From: Invisible
Subject: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 11:02:25
Message: <47f10b11$1@news.povray.org>
Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't a 
joke?

Is there some theoretical reason why the speakers in a laptop can't 
produce high-quality sound? Or is it merely that manufacturers are eager 
to fit the best, most powerful CPU and sell the unit for the lowest 
possible cost, and fitting a better set of speakers isn't a high priority?

I'm just curios to know...

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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 11:21:08
Message: <47f10f74@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't a
> joke?

Yup. My laptop has Harman/Karton speakers. I'm not much into the sound
industry, but I'm told those are high-qualtiy speakers.
They certainly sound good. In fact, they sound better than my old TV did.

Of course, I'm no sound expert....


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 11:30:48
Message: <47f111b8$1@news.povray.org>

> Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't a 
> joke?

Yes, a Mac.

My dad has an old PowerBook (it has PowerPC processor!) and it has quite 
a good sound from its tiny speakers.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 11:33:26
Message: <47f11256$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:02:05 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't a
> joke?

Yes, my T42p has pretty decent speakers on it....

I've also seen a few Dell models with reasonably good speakers on them - 
D6xx series and C610/C640 series.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 11:34:09
Message: <ee42v3t8c5l1ui5cnigj8g7ddvrrtir7kk@4ax.com>
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:02:05 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't a 
>joke?
>
>Is there some theoretical reason why the speakers in a laptop can't 
>produce high-quality sound? Or is it merely that manufacturers are eager 
>to fit the best, most powerful CPU and sell the unit for the lowest 
>possible cost, and fitting a better set of speakers isn't a high priority?
>
>I'm just curios to know...

To get good quality sound from a speaker you need a large=ish speaker
and some volume behind it. So until we can invent a TARDIS like laptop
the answer is no.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 11:40:00
Message: <web.47f1126aa21aa45e5a8888d90@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't a
> joke?
>
> Is there some theoretical reason why the speakers in a laptop can't
> produce high-quality sound? Or is it merely that manufacturers are eager
> to fit the best, most powerful CPU and sell the unit for the lowest
> possible cost, and fitting a better set of speakers isn't a high priority?
>
> I'm just curios to know...
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*

The Sony Vaio line offers the best built-ins I know about and they're just OK,
not great. They also offer portable and "docking station" type plug-in speakers
to upgrade. They are, however, (IMHO) a bit expensive for what you get.

MacBooks make strong claims about audio quality. I have no clue how true they
are... and again, we're talking bucks deluxe.

I believe the general approach taken by laptop designers is that since laptops
are nearly always single-user personal machines, HQ audio will come through HQ
headphones.

Good luck on the quest. Please post any noteworthy discoveries.

Best Regards,
 Mike C.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 11:56:36
Message: <ct52v3pb75ma440o2bin47qbj6ame919aa@4ax.com>
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:02:05 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>I'm just curios to know...

As a follow up question. Does anyone know of a good soundcard for a
laptop. One that has digital I/P and O/P and only needs to use stereo?
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From:  
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 12:20:27
Message: <47f11d5b$1@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote

> Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't a
> joke?

Depends on how big your lap is.

See for yourself why (especially towards the lower end of the audible
spectrum) you need a substantial size to get faithful reproduction:

http://www.mcsquared.com/wavelength.htm


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 12:20:52
Message: <47f11d73@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't a 
> joke?

  I know next to nothing about audio and loudspeaker technology, but as
far as I understand the capability of a loudspeaker to play bass
frequencies is more or less directly proportional to the physical size
of the loudspeaker (you need a larger box to get lower frequencies).
Thus it's very difficult if not impossible to play low frequencies with
very small speakers which do not have any volume to them to speak of.
Thus you will never get high-quality sound from very small speakers.

  (One could ask what about headphones. Those are pretty small speakers
and they can play pretty low frequencies. I assume it has something to
do with their physical location with respect to the ear canal.)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: A simple question
Date: 31 Mar 2008 14:01:08
Message: <47f134f4$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
> I've also seen a few Dell models with reasonably good speakers on them - 
> D6xx series and C610/C640 series.

The built-in cucumber-cans of D610 and D620 are mostly pathetic.

> Jim


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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
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