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I'm busy specing up a new PC. I'm having trouble picking a motherboard
though, any advice?
Processor = Intel Core-2 Quad, 2.66
The board must support at least 4 GB of DDR2 800 memory.
Must have at least 4 SATA-2 ports. No RAID requirements
Must have at least 6, preferably more, USB-2 ports
No need for onboard LAN, video or sound. I'm buying or have seperate cards
for those.
Thanks
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> I'm busy specing up a new PC. I'm having trouble picking a motherboard
> though, any advice?
>
> Processor = Intel Core-2 Quad, 2.66
>
> The board must support at least 4 GB of DDR2 800 memory.
> Must have at least 4 SATA-2 ports. No RAID requirements
> Must have at least 6, preferably more, USB-2 ports
> No need for onboard LAN, video or sound. I'm buying or have seperate cards
> for those.
>
> Thanks
>
>
Just bought a new machine based on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 motherboard.
It meets or exceeds all of those requirements and was quite inexpensive.
Processors: Intel Core 2 Extreme, Quad, Duo, Pentium D, Pentium 4, Celeron
FSB: 1333/1066/800 MHz
Memory: 4 x DDR2 DIMM (up to 8Gb)
4 x SATA 3Gb/s
12 x USB 2.0 / 1.1 (8 back panel, rest internal or front panel depending
on case)
Also has on board 10/100/1000 LAN, Audio, RAID, legacy IDE etc and
plenty of overclocking support which I generally don't touch.
There are many variations on the gigabyte P35 range depending on how
many SATA connectors, Firewire, on board video etc you want.
While I can't say that Gigabyte is better or worse than any other brand
in this generation, I can say that the MB is very neat, feature rich and
(so far) without problem. All of the benchmarks for P35 chipset based
systems seem to be equivalent to within the margin of error.
Overall I am very satisfied with the performance gain over an Athlon
1800XP machine that lasted me for about 5 years :)
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Gail Shaw a écrit :
> No need for onboard LAN, video or sound. I'm buying or have seperate cards
> for those.
I'm sure you know this, but make sure you have enough slots for these.
I had to ditch the modem when I installed a wifi card in my home machine
due to lack of pci slots.
(It didn't really matter anyway because the main reason for the wifi
card was that there's no phone line in the basement and I had to put my
DSL router in another room, so the modem was not going to be used for
anything anyway)
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"Francois Labreque" <fla### [at] sympatico ca> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw a écrit :
> > No need for onboard LAN, video or sound. I'm buying or have seperate
cards
> > for those.
>
> I'm sure you know this, but make sure you have enough slots for these.
I will check, but is just 3 slots. One PCI express (for graphics), 2 pci.
for sound and wifi
I haven't seen a motherboard with less than 2 pci slots yet.
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:42:07 +0100, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> wrote:
> "Francois Labreque" <fla### [at] sympaticoca> wrote in message
> news:47dd277c$1@news.povray.org...
>> I'm sure you know this, but make sure you have enough slots for these.
>
> I will check, but is just 3 slots. One PCI express (for graphics), 2 pci.
> for sound and wifi
> I haven't seen a motherboard with less than 2 pci slots yet.
Be aware though that the layout of the board may prevent you from using
some slots, especially those closest to the graphics card.
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"Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:42:07 +0100, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
> <"<initialsurname"@sentech> wrote:
>> "Francois Labreque" <fla### [at] sympaticoca> wrote in message
>> news:47dd277c$1@news.povray.org...
>>> I'm sure you know this, but make sure you have enough slots for these.
>>
>> I will check, but is just 3 slots. One PCI express (for graphics), 2 pci.
>> for sound and wifi
>> I haven't seen a motherboard with less than 2 pci slots yet.
>
> Be aware though that the layout of the board may prevent you from using
> some slots, especially those closest to the graphics card.
Yes, I've noticed this from what I've read so far, some of these new
boards are getting a bit too tight for a small or low tower.
~Steve~
>
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47dd64b2$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Yes, I've noticed this from what I've read so far, some of these new
> boards are getting a bit too tight for a small or low tower.
I'm so sick of tearing my hands on the inside of a PC case. These days, I
don't buy anything other than a full tower case. Plus, since I usually have
2-3 hard drives and 2 DVD drives in a machine, I need a full tower to fit
them in without squashing the drives together.
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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message
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>
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47dd64b2$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>> Yes, I've noticed this from what I've read so far, some of these new
>> boards are getting a bit too tight for a small or low tower.
>
> I'm so sick of tearing my hands on the inside of a PC case. These days, I
> don't buy anything other than a full tower case. Plus, since I usually
> have
> 2-3 hard drives and 2 DVD drives in a machine, I need a full tower to fit
> them in without squashing the drives together.
Well, my present tower is 16.5" high x 7" wide x 18" long, so I
'think' I could fit something new in it - not sure what a 'full' tower is
without checking, but with what you want Gail compared to my min spec board,
you may have to choose wisely with this one. It might be a good idea to
email said board merchants to get their opinion?
And yes, I know what you mean by 'tearing your hands'. My first tower
was a tiny thing, (still got it sat next to me doing nothing), and when I
tried to put a new HD in it, I couldn't help scraping my hands! Back then I
wished that they built bigger towers, and now they're here. :)
~Steve~
>
>
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:30:18 +0100, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> wrote:
> I'm so sick of tearing my hands on the inside of a PC case. These days, I
> don't buy anything other than a full tower case. Plus, since I usually
> have
> 2-3 hard drives and 2 DVD drives in a machine, I need a full tower to fit
> them in without squashing the drives together.
I find that full tower cases tend to just give you a lot of empty space
where you do not need it, and force you to use longer cables. There are
some really good midi-tower cases by Antec that are very easy to work
with. Some think they are expensive, but they are well worth it.
--
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> I haven't seen a motherboard with less than 2 pci slots yet.
I'll tell you something that *I* noticed...
I had a look on ebuyer, and almost *all* the motherboards had *exactly*
the same feature set until you start getting pretty expensive. I mean,
boards for £20 - £50 all seem to have identical features. Same number of
PCI slots, same number of SATA slots, etc. [Many of them lack IDE
entirely, which is potentially problematic...]
It's as if they all use the same chipset or something...
Once you get into the "really" expensive ones, a much wider variation is
apparent. Convergent evolution?
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Wow, this tower is described as a 'full' tower and it's 62cm high!
http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=3227479
Never seen one in any high street shop around this one horse town...
:o/
Can you see out of your window with these?? ;)
~Steve~
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> No need for onboard LAN, video or sound. I'm buying or have seperate cards
> for those.
Do you have a particular reason for NOT to use onboard LAN? Video I
understand - sound..yes, but why not LAN?
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"Severi Salminen" <sev### [at] NOTTHISsaunalahtifiinvalid> wrote in
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> Gail Shaw wrote:
>
> > No need for onboard LAN, video or sound. I'm buying or have seperate
cards
> > for those.
>
> Do you have a particular reason for NOT to use onboard LAN? Video I
> understand - sound..yes, but why not LAN?
Got a wireless network card I'll be using.
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47dd8700$1@news.povray.org...
> Wow, this tower is described as a 'full' tower and it's 62cm high!
> http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=3227479
That's huge.
Maybe it's a difference in terminology, around here the 42 cm high cases are
refered to as full towers, and that's what I have.
These are kinda what I'm going for.
http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=311&catId=20
http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=309&catId=20
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:48:48 +0100, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> wrote:
> These are kinda what I'm going for.
> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=311&catId=20
> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=309&catId=20
Those are both good cases, especially the first one.
Personally though, I would recommend one of these:
http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=312&catId=20
http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=317&catId=22
Less bling and more function.
--
FE
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> Got a wireless network card I'll be using.
Isn't that wildly insecure / unreliable?
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Don't underestimate the power of Gail Shaw...
> I'm busy specing up a new PC. I'm having trouble picking a motherboard
> though, any advice?
>
> Processor = Intel Core-2 Quad, 2.66
>
> The board must support at least 4 GB of DDR2 800 memory.
> Must have at least 4 SATA-2 ports. No RAID requirements
> Must have at least 6, preferably more, USB-2 ports
> No need for onboard LAN, video or sound. I'm buying or have seperate cards
> for those.
>
Asus P5E (*not* P5E3 !)
< http://tinyurl.com/27hfke >
Slawek
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And lo on Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:38:38 -0000, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> did spake, saying:
>
> "Severi Salminen" <sev### [at] NOTTHISsaunalahtifiinvalid> wrot
e
> in
> message news:47dd96c9$1@news.povray.org...
>> Gail Shaw wrote:
>>
>> > No need for onboard LAN, video or sound. I'm buying or have seperat
e
>> cards for those.
>>
>> Do you have a particular reason for NOT to use onboard LAN? Video I
>> understand - sound..yes, but why not LAN?
>
> Got a wireless network card I'll be using.
I know Asus does motherboards with built in WiFi tum-ti-tum ah here we g
o
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/asus_p5b/
>> Processor = Intel Core-2 Quad, 2.66
Check (confirmed elsewhere)
>> The board must support at least 4 GB of DDR2 800 memory.
8Gb DDR2 800
>> Must have at least 4 SATA-2 ports. No RAID requirements
6 SATA 3.0Gb
>> Must have at least 6, preferably more, USB-2 ports
8
Might save you a slot with built-in WiFi.
--
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http://flipc.blogspot.com
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw wrote:
>
> > Got a wireless network card I'll be using.
>
> Isn't that wildly insecure
Not when Mac address filtered and with a network key. Besides, it's a home
network, not a corporate.
> / unreliable?
Never noticed so. Much better than cables running all over the place. It's
for a flat of 3 rooms, so I don't need excessive range
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"Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote in message
news:op.t75ireku7bxctx@e6600...
> Personally though, I would recommend one of these:
> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=312&catId=20
> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=317&catId=22
>
> Less bling and more function.
But I like the bling. *g*
Seriously, the second one looks nice. Very nice.
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>> Isn't that wildly insecure
>
> Not when Mac address filtered and with a network key. Besides, it's a home
> network, not a corporate.
Well, OK, fair enough.
Personally, whenever I get anything that has a wireless capability, the
very first thing I do is try to find a way to permanently disable that
functionallity.
(On the other hand, I don't know how to work it properly, so...)
>> / unreliable?
>
> Never noticed so. Much better than cables running all over the place. It's
> for a flat of 3 rooms, so I don't need excessive range
My dad used to use wireless networking. But he found that he had to
constantly plug and unplug the wireless adaptor until it found a
network. Sometimes the wireless adaptor itself was reported as "not
plugged in" when in fact it was.
[The amusing thing is he bought a Belkin base station and wireless
adaptor bundle, which was quite pricey, and it really didn't work
reliably. Then he bought some cheap no-name wireless adaptor for one of
the other PCs, and that worked flawlessly. I wonder if it's because it
was in the same room?]
Well anyway, long story short: Eventually he went back to wired
networking just so it would ****ing work properly.
--
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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message
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>
> "Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote in message
> news:op.t75ireku7bxctx@e6600...
>
>> Personally though, I would recommend one of these:
>> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=312&catId=20
>> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=317&catId=22
>>
>> Less bling and more function.
>
> But I like the bling. *g*
Heh... Nothing wrong with a bit of *Bling* Gail! :)
>
> Seriously, the second one looks nice. Very nice.
Oooh, that is nice actually. I like the idea of the double hinge door.
With mine, you have to slide either of the sides backwards to get inside -
that's ok doing that, but trying to put them back the same way is SO
awkward! Yes, I have to use my chin to hold one spot in place and then my
hands to slide the sides back in place. Horrible design.
~Steve~
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"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
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>> Got a wireless network card I'll be using.
>
> I know Asus does motherboards with built in WiFi tum-ti-tum ah here we go
>
> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/asus_p5b/
Ooh. I'll check that one out. Depends on the price, as I already have the
wifi card.
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Personally, whenever I get anything that has a wireless capability, the
> very first thing I do is try to find a way to permanently disable that
> functionallity.
Only time my laptop's wifi is on is when I'm at home.
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:22:45 +0100, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> wrote:
> "Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote in message
> news:op.t75ireku7bxctx@e6600...
>
>> Personally though, I would recommend one of these:
>> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=312&catId=20
>> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=317&catId=22
>>
>> Less bling and more function.
>
> But I like the bling. *g*
Then perhaps this one:
http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=314&catId=20
More expensive, but you can see your own reflection in it.
There is also a gun metal black version:
http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=313&catId=20
Keep in mind that transparent windows are a bad thing if you want a quie
t
computer.
> Seriously, the second one looks nice. Very nice.
It is also considerably smaller (though still fairly roomy on the inside
).
Check that the PSU is powerful enough for your needs first though.
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:36:39 +0100, St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> I like the idea of the double hinge door.
> With mine, you have to slide either of the sides backwards to get inside
> - that's ok doing that, but trying to put them back the same way is SO
> awkward! Yes, I have to use my chin to hold one spot in place and then my
> hands to slide the sides back in place. Horrible design.
The double hinge is on the door that covers the top half of the front. The
side plate is still very easy to handle though.
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:47:11 +0100, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> wrote:
> "Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
> news:op.t75uzsqac3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>>>
>>> Got a wireless network card I'll be using.
>>
>> I know Asus does motherboards with built in WiFi tum-ti-tum ah here w
e
>> go
>>
>> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/asus_p5b/
>
> Ooh. I'll check that one out. Depends on the price, as I already have
the
> wifi card.
The P5B line of cards is getting a bit long in the tooth. Better to pick
one of these:
http://za.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=
1749&modelmenu=2
http://za.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=
1646&modelmenu=2
http://za.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=572&l4=0&model=
1872&modelmenu=2
If you already have a WiFi-card though, you might be better off with a
(cheaper) non-WiFi motherboard.
This is a good choice if you intend to use several PCI cards:
http://www.gigabyte.co.za/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?Produc
tID=2748
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"Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:36:39 +0100, St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>> I like the idea of the double hinge door.
>> With mine, you have to slide either of the sides backwards to get
>> nside - that's ok doing that, but trying to put them back the same way
>> is SO
>> awkward! Yes, I have to use my chin to hold one spot in place and then my
>> hands to slide the sides back in place. Horrible design.
>
> The double hinge is on the door that covers the top half of the front. The
> side plate is still very easy to handle though.
Ah, I see, thank you. It was a little misleading, but if the side plate is
better than mine, I'll look out for something like that for the next one I
get.
~Steve~
>
>
> --
> FE
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And lo on Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:22:45 -0000, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> did spake, saying:
>
> "Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote in message
> news:op.t75ireku7bxctx@e6600...
>
>> Personally though, I would recommend one of these:
>> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=312&catId=20
>> http://www.pclabs.co.za/ProductDetail.aspx?prodId=317&catId=22
>>
>> Less bling and more function.
>
> But I like the bling. *g*
>
> Seriously, the second one looks nice. Very nice.
I thought you were after a case not a fridgefreezer ;-)
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"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
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>> Seriously, the second one looks nice. Very nice.
>
> I thought you were after a case not a fridgefreezer ;-)
*g* My fridge looks positivly dingy compared to that case.
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>> I thought you were after a case not a fridgefreezer ;-)
>
> *g* My fridge looks positivly dingy compared to that case.
Ah, the mark of a good PC case.
Myself I've always been a fan of the "less is more" school of technology
design. Take this for example:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/109393
Can you spell "ugly"?
PS. I don't own a fridge yet. Or anywhere to put it. Or anything to put
inside it. Or any electricity to run it with, technically.
PPS. I need a better job...
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> PS. I don't own a fridge yet. Or anywhere to put it. Or anything to put
> inside it. Or any electricity to run it with, technically.
I bought a washing machine the other week. That's the first time I've ever
bought anything like that, and it made me feel very grown up. Not that I
really want to be to be honest.
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scott wrote:
> I bought a washing machine the other week. That's the first time I've
> ever bought anything like that, and it made me feel very grown up.
ASL?
> Not that I really want to be to be honest.
[Parser error at character 1378.]
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Invisible escribió:
>> Not that I really want to be to be honest.
>
> [Parser error at character 1378.]
"...made me feel very grown up. Not that I really want to be grown up,
to be honest."
...i think
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>>> Not that I really want to be to be honest.
>>
>> [Parser error at character 1378.]
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> "...made me feel very grown up. Not that I really want to be grown up,
> to be honest."
>
> ...i think
Yeah, I knew that really. ;-)
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"scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote in message
news:47dfe504$1@news.povray.org...
>> PS. I don't own a fridge yet. Or anywhere to put it. Or anything to put
>> inside it. Or any electricity to run it with, technically.
>
> I bought a washing machine the other week. That's the first time I've
> ever bought anything like that, and it made me feel very grown up. Not
> that I really want to be to be honest.
LOL! :) I bought a tumble dryer this morning, it made me feel very
poor... :o/
No, just kidding, I spent £140 on it, but when I looked at the higher
priced versions on Comet, one of them is over £1000!! <eek!>
Who'd buy one of those just for drying clothes?
~Steve~
>
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> I'm so sick of tearing my hands on the inside of a PC case. These days, I
> don't buy anything other than a full tower case. Plus, since I usually have
> 2-3 hard drives and 2 DVD drives in a machine, I need a full tower to fit
> them in without squashing the drives together.
While we're on the subject, does anybody know of anywhere [in the UK]
where you can go and physically *look* at PC cases before you buy them?
The only computer shops I know of round here only sell 4 or 5 different
case designs, most of which are pretty naff. (But then, for £20, what do
you expect?) Sure, there are places online that have a much wider range,
but a case is the one component you really want to physically *see*
before you buy it.
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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>
> While we're on the subject, does anybody know of anywhere [in the UK]
> where you can go and physically *look* at PC cases before you buy them?
YoYo Tech, 30 Windmill St, W1
http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/officehour.php?osCsid=99ccb4cf89e2fc121bd3f6f7619552c2
Some of the larger Maplins, ... and if you ask nicely PC World (But
their selection is abysmal)
--
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world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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Doctor John wrote:
> YoYo Tech, 30 Windmill St, W1
> http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/officehour.php?osCsid=99ccb4cf89e2fc121bd3f6f7619552c2
Looks nice.
> Some of the larger Maplins,
That's where all my cases so far have come from. Nice people, but their
case range extends to, like, 4 models. (Much of their stuff is a bit
like that though. If you want, say, a GeForce 6200, they can sell you
one. If you want an 8-series... forget it.)
> ... and if you ask nicely PC World (But
> their selection is abysmal)
Here's what happened the last time I tried at PC World:
Hi, is this case steel or aluminium?
Uuuuuhhhh... I donna mate...
... ...well can you find out please?
Oooohhh, ooookaaaaayy...
He walked off and started sulkily prodding buttons on his PC until
eventually [about 45 minutes] I got bored and left the store. Clearly
had no intension of doing anything remotely useful. [That would involve
him getting off his fat **** and doing some actual WORK.]
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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Doctor John wrote:
>
>> YoYo Tech, 30 Windmill St, W1
>> http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/officehour.php?osCsid=99ccb4cf89e2fc121bd3f6f7619552c2
>>
>
> Looks nice.
>
Gets crowded at weekends but otherwise not bad and most of the staff
know what they're talking about.
>> Some of the larger Maplins,
>
> That's where all my cases so far have come from. Nice people, but their
> case range extends to, like, 4 models. (Much of their stuff is a bit
> like that though. If you want, say, a GeForce 6200, they can sell you
> one. If you want an 8-series... forget it.)
>
True
>> ... and if you ask nicely PC World (But
>> their selection is abysmal)
>
> Here's what happened the last time I tried at PC World:
>
> Hi, is this case steel or aluminium?
> Uuuuuhhhh... I donna mate...
> .... ...well can you find out please?
> Oooohhh, ooookaaaaayy...
>
> He walked off and started sulkily prodding buttons on his PC until
> eventually [about 45 minutes] I got bored and left the store. Clearly
> had no intension of doing anything remotely useful. [That would involve
> him getting off his fat **** and doing some actual WORK.]
>
Ah, yes. He and his clones are being used by PCW since they require
minimal maintenance and they don't actually give out false information.
The other 5% of the staff work at Head Office (... a beach hut in the
Sechelles afaik :-D )
John
--
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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