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From: Invisible
Subject: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 06:03:51
Message: <47c54397$1@news.povray.org>
You know how sometimes you're just laying in bed trying to go to sleep, 
and suddenly you get that feeling like you're falling really fast just 
for a split second? I really hate that. Makes me jump out of my skin... 
but then of course you realise you only imagined it.

At about 1 AM today, I woke up and it seemed like the entire bed was 
shaking. And shaking fairly hard, actually. As if there was a washing 
machine on a spin cycle next to my bed. And then after a moment or two 
it stopped.

I couldn't figure out how that would be possible, so I figured I was 
just dreaming or something. But I remember being annoyed at being awake, 
and checking the clock to see what the hell the time is. It took a 
while, but eventually I managed to go back to sleep.

Oh, and in other news, apparently there was an earth quake last night...

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 06:23:58
Message: <47c5484e@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> You know how sometimes you're just laying in bed trying to go to sleep, 
> and suddenly you get that feeling like you're falling really fast just 
> for a split second? I really hate that. Makes me jump out of my skin... 
> but then of course you realise you only imagined it.

  Blog... ;)

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 06:28:22
Message: <47c54956$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Blog... ;)

*sigh*

http://blog.orphi.me.uk/archives/220


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 06:40:59
Message: <47c54c4b$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> At about 1 AM today, I woke up and it seemed like the entire bed was 
> shaking. And shaking fairly hard, actually. As if there was a washing 
> machine on a spin cycle next to my bed. And then after a moment or two 
> it stopped.
> 

I get that every once in a while - I could say maybe once per 2 months oslt.

There's a train track at 200-300 meters away from here and if a _very_ 
heavy train passes by all the surrounding grounds shake up a bit. The 
first time was freaking, while the bed just starts shaking a lot (my bed 
_amplificates_ the darn shaking, so it's pretty more noticeable at the 
bed than anywhere else).

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 06:42:10
Message: <47c54c92$1@news.povray.org>
>> At about 1 AM today, I woke up and it seemed like the entire bed was 
>> shaking. And shaking fairly hard, actually. As if there was a washing 
>> machine on a spin cycle next to my bed. And then after a moment or two 
>> it stopped.
>>
> 
> I get that every once in a while - I could say maybe once per 2 months 
> oslt.
> 
> There's a train track at 200-300 meters away from here and if a _very_ 
> heavy train passes by all the surrounding grounds shake up a bit. The 
> first time was freaking, while the bed just starts shaking a lot (my bed 
> _amplificates_ the darn shaking, so it's pretty more noticeable at the 
> bed than anywhere else).

Oh, that's nice... You must really enjoy living there. :-S

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 06:42:47
Message: <47c54cb7@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> There's a train track at 200-300 meters away from here and if a _very_ 
> heavy train passes by all the surrounding grounds shake up a bit. The 
> first time was freaking, while the bed just starts shaking a lot (my bed 
> _amplificates_ the darn shaking, so it's pretty more noticeable at the 
> bed than anywhere else).

  One could think that some law (hmm, what's "kaavoitus" in English?)
would prohibit building too close to train tracks and other such noisy
environments, but I suppose not.

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 06:50:24
Message: <47c54e80$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   One could think that some law (hmm, what's "kaavoitus" in English?)
> would prohibit building too close to train tracks and other such noisy
> environments, but I suppose not.

Hmm, now there's an interesting thought... I know there are regulations 
here against high noise levels, but I don't think there's actually 
anything against low-frequency vibrations. (i.e., something that's 
seisemic rather than sonic.)

Why that's relevant I'm not really sure... and um... wow, is it noon 
already?

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From: St 
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 07:07:07
Message: <47c5526b$1@news.povray.org>
That was the earthquake, I felt it too. Freaked me out.  :oO

   ~Steve~


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 07:17:03
Message: <47c554bf$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> That was the earthquake, I felt it too. Freaked me out.  :oO

Well, it was fairly strong. I mean, it wasn't a gentle twitch, it was a 
fairly serious *shaking*...

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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 07:19:43
Message: <47c5555f@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> 
>   One could think that some law (hmm, what's "kaavoitus" in English?)
> would prohibit building too close to train tracks and other such noisy
> environments, but I suppose not.
> 

Well, my house is actually built 60 years ago and I have no idea, how 
old the Hämeenlinna-Helsinki -track actually is, so today's regulations 
don't actually apply (actually, theres much newer houses between mine 
and the track). I think the basic problem comes from increasing weights 
of the trains - 60 years ago there probably wasn't such massive 
movements on that track as today (note that they still are rare).

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    http://www.zbxt.net
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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 07:21:34
Message: <47c555ce$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> Oh, that's nice... You must really enjoy living there. :-S
> 

Actually, I do :). Those trains don't bother me anymore, even though the 
first time really was a freaking one. There so much more positive than 
negative things living here that I'm pretty satisfied.

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    http://www.zbxt.net
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From: St 
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 07:26:11
Message: <47c556e3@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:47c554bf$1@news.povray.org...
> St. wrote:
>> That was the earthquake, I felt it too. Freaked me out.  :oO
>
> Well, it was fairly strong. I mean, it wasn't a gentle twitch, it was a 
> fairly serious *shaking*...

       Yeah, you would have felt it more than me, I think. It felt like a 
gentle rumble for about 5 seconds.

        ~Steve~


>
> -- 
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 07:37:05
Message: <47c55971$1@news.povray.org>
>> Well, it was fairly strong. I mean, it wasn't a gentle twitch, it was a 
>> fairly serious *shaking*...
> 
>        Yeah, you would have felt it more than me, I think. It felt like a 
> gentle rumble for about 5 seconds.

Ever been on the earth quake ride at the London Geology Museum? Fun...

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 07:57:48
Message: <op.t66ox1usc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:23:58 -0000, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> did  
spake, saying:

> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> You know how sometimes you're just laying in bed trying to go to sleep,
>> and suddenly you get that feeling like you're falling really fast just
>> for a split second? I really hate that. Makes me jump out of my skin...
>> but then of course you realise you only imagined it.
>
>   Blog... ;)

Ya mean http://flipc.blogspot.com/2008/02/shudder.html :-P Beat him to it.

-- 
Phil Cook

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 08:27:06
Message: <v6pas3lveqr6tl3ha4ckocf2q351fegqrn@4ax.com>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:03:48 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Oh, and in other news, apparently there was an earth quake last night...

I did not feel anything here in London but one of my local shopkeepers said that
he did. 

I did feel an earthquake once when I worked offshore. That was scary. 

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 10:49:18
Message: <47c5867e$1@news.povray.org>
"Eero Ahonen" <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> a écrit dans le message de 
news: 47c54c4b$1@news.povray.org...
> There's a train track at 200-300 meters away from here and if a _very_ 
> heavy train passes by all the surrounding grounds shake up a bit. The 
> first time was freaking, while the bed just starts shaking a lot (my bed 
> _amplificates_ the darn shaking, so it's pretty more noticeable at the bed 
> than anywhere else).

200-300 meters *** only *** ?
For the real deal see below ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWAUAburgLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6qBApQBuJY


G.

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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 11:31:35
Message: <47c59067$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible escribió:
> Oh, and in other news, apparently there was an earth quake last night...
> 

There was indeed. A friend from UK messaged me saying basically "I just 
had an earthquake. Yellow pages website isn't loading for me. Can I 
borrow your internet for a minute?" only in a bit more panic.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 11:37:43
Message: <47c591d7$1@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran escribió:
> "Eero Ahonen" <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> a �crit dans le message de 
> news: 47c54c4b$1@news.povray.org...
>> There's a train track at 200-300 meters away from here and if a _very_ 
>> heavy train passes by all the surrounding grounds shake up a bit. The 
>> first time was freaking, while the bed just starts shaking a lot (my bed 
>> _amplificates_ the darn shaking, so it's pretty more noticeable at the bed 
>> than anywhere else).
> 
> 200-300 meters *** only *** ?
> For the real deal see below ;)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWAUAburgLU
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6qBApQBuJY
> 

o_O


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 11:38:03
Message: <47c591eb$1@news.povray.org>
(I'm going to feed the blogger...)

Invisible wrote:

> Oh, and in other news, apparently there was an earth quake last night...

Heh, I was wondering how things were over there. "An earthquake near 
London" was not something I expected to hear. Glad you're OK, though.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 11:44:57
Message: <47c59389$1@news.povray.org>
"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:47c591eb$1@news.povray.org...
> (I'm going to feed the blogger...)
>
> Invisible wrote:
>
>> Oh, and in other news, apparently there was an earth quake last night...
>
> Heh, I was wondering how things were over there. "An earthquake near 
> London" was not something I expected to hear. Glad you're OK, though.

   Yes, alive and kicking - apart from one poor chap that finally found out 
how good his roof was on his house. Apparently, his chimney crashed through 
the roof to his bedroom and landed on him whilst asleep. I think it broke 
his pelvis.  :o/

     ~Steve~


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 11:48:34
Message: <47c59462$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   One could think that some law (hmm, what's "kaavoitus" in English?)

"Zoning laws"?

> would prohibit building too close to train tracks and other such noisy
> environments, but I suppose not.

English has an expression "you come from the wrong side of the tracks", 
i.e., you grew up in the poor neighborhood close to the noisy railroad 
tracks, unlike us rich snobby folks.

You don't even need to be particularly close to the tracks. I was in a 
dorm room in university about two blocks away, and when the train with 4 
locomotives pulling 450 cars behind it hit the horn, it set off the car 
alarms for like 3 blocks.

Now I work across the street from Mirimar Airforce Base (also known as 
"Top Gun", as in Tom Cruise), and it gets seriously difficult to test 
audio processing software sometimes. :-?

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 11:50:21
Message: <47c594cd@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> Heh, I was wondering how things were over there. "An earthquake near 
> London" was not something I expected to hear. Glad you're OK, though.

Well, apparently it's "the biggest earthquake in almost 25 years" (so 
that's, what, 24 years then?)

And I guess Lincolnshire is near to London for suitable definition of 
"near"... ;-)

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 11:53:01
Message: <47c5956d$1@news.povray.org>
>> would prohibit building too close to train tracks and other such noisy
>> environments, but I suppose not.
> 
> English has an expression "you come from the wrong side of the tracks", 
> i.e., you grew up in the poor neighborhood close to the noisy railroad 
> tracks, unlike us rich snobby folks.

I'm pretty sure some of the train tracks in London are a tad nearer than 
200 meters. (Try 200 inches...)

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From: St 
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 12:21:26
Message: <47c59c16$1@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47c556e3@news.povray.org...


>       Yeah, you would have felt it more than me, I think. It felt like a 
> gentle rumble for about 5 seconds.

    I think I should explain the above further. I was lying on the settee 
watching the telly when it hit, and I thought, "Why is the telly looking 
jerky?" But I finally came to the assumption that it was 'me' that moved! 
Lying on three soft cushions, I felt it more I guess(?!) I *think* I heard 
it too - that rumble. Not sure. Some said it sounded like a deeper (read: 
massive) thunder rumble. I'll go with that if they were closer than me. 
Think about it though; that's giant rock structures/formations underneath us 
having a bit of a wobble. Ah, you gotta love Mother Nature...  :o/

    Some places are saying that it was 10 seconds long, but for me it was 
nowhere near that, (and I felt it from begining to end).

      ~Steve~


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 12:32:55
Message: <47c59ec7$1@news.povray.org>
Over here in Utah, we get fairly regular quakes - usually not strong 
enough to really feel (or it feels like a large truck driving by - I've 
felt a few of those, but not recently - you kinda get used to it after a 
while).  But we're due for "a big one" along the Wasatch - we're a little 
overdue, actually.

Which means that we probably need to look at CERT training....Anyone here 
done that?

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 12:34:38
Message: <47c59f2e$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:42:47 -0500, Warp wrote:

> hmm, what's "kaavoitus" in English?)

"Zoning" looks like it would be the appropriate word.

Jim


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 13:44:42
Message: <47c5af9a@news.povray.org>
>
> Oh, and in other news, apparently there was an earth quake last night...
>

I saw that on the news this morning.

JHB gets a fair number of 'tremors', mostly as a result of all the mining
that's happened under the city. Last year we had three very noticable shakes
in about 10 minutes. Pretty scary when you're sitting on the top floor of a
6 floor building.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 15:05:36
Message: <47c5c290$1@news.povray.org>
Oh, and on the "dreams" side of things, I had a very strange one last 
night as I was falling asleep the first time - from Indiana Jones and the 
Last Crusade, when Indy and his dad are boarding the Zepplin and the 
officer asks for their papers - in my dream version, Indy held up a slice 
of pizza and tried to pass that off as a photo ID of some sort.

I sometimes wonder about what's going on in my brain....

Jim


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 15:15:02
Message: <47c5c4c6$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson escribió:
> Oh, and on the "dreams" side of things, I had a very strange one last 
> night as I was falling asleep the first time - from Indiana Jones and the 
> Last Crusade, when Indy and his dad are boarding the Zepplin and the 
> officer asks for their papers - in my dream version, Indy held up a slice 
> of pizza and tried to pass that off as a photo ID of some sort.
> 
> I sometimes wonder about what's going on in my brain....
> 

I had a strange one today too. And when I woke up, I thought I should 
model in POV the place I was in, before I forget it...

BTW, check this out: http://www.dreamjournal.net/


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 15:46:35
Message: <47c5cc2b$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> Oh, and on the "dreams" side of things, I had a very strange one last 
> night as I was falling asleep the first time - from Indiana Jones and the 
> Last Crusade, when Indy and his dad are boarding the Zepplin and the 
> officer asks for their papers - in my dream version, Indy held up a slice 
> of pizza and tried to pass that off as a photo ID of some sort.
> 
> I sometimes wonder about what's going on in my brain....

...da hell?! o_O

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 15:49:09
Message: <47c5ccc5$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:15:03 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> Jim Henderson escribió:
>> Oh, and on the "dreams" side of things, I had a very strange one last
>> night as I was falling asleep the first time - from Indiana Jones and
>> the Last Crusade, when Indy and his dad are boarding the Zepplin and
>> the officer asks for their papers - in my dream version, Indy held up a
>> slice of pizza and tried to pass that off as a photo ID of some sort.
>> 
>> I sometimes wonder about what's going on in my brain....
>> 
>> 
> I had a strange one today too. And when I woke up, I thought I should
> model in POV the place I was in, before I forget it...
> 
> BTW, check this out: http://www.dreamjournal.net/

Cool.

I had a friend in high school who kept a dream journal by his bed - one 
night, he had the most bizarre experience:  He had a dream, woke up, 
wrote it in the journal, and went back to sleep.

Got up the next morning and the page was blank.

He worked out (eventually) that he'd had a dream within a dream, woke up 
in his dream and logged the dream-within-a-dream, and then went back to 
sleep in his dream.  That was the only explanation he was able to figure 
out.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 15:51:00
Message: <47c5cd34$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:46:49 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Oh, and on the "dreams" side of things, I had a very strange one last
>> night as I was falling asleep the first time - from Indiana Jones and
>> the Last Crusade, when Indy and his dad are boarding the Zepplin and
>> the officer asks for their papers - in my dream version, Indy held up a
>> slice of pizza and tried to pass that off as a photo ID of some sort.
>> 
>> I sometimes wonder about what's going on in my brain....
> 
> ...da hell?! o_O

I have a very vivid recollection of being attacked in a dream (when I was 
a kid) by a stuffed "plush" alligator.

But until fairly recently, I haven't slept well enough (I guess) to be 
able to remember my dreams.  I went for years without being able to 
recall anything I'd dreamed, but since I started immunotherapy for my 
allergies, I've been remembering more of my dreams.

I'm kinda wondering if my allergic reactions were causing some form of 
sleep apnea that would prevent me from getting a good night's sleep.  I 
was always tired, but these days, I'm not feeling so wiped out all the 
time.

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 15:57:59
Message: <47c5ced7$1@news.povray.org>
> I have a very vivid recollection of being attacked in a dream (when I was 
> a kid) by a stuffed "plush" alligator.
> 
> But until fairly recently, I haven't slept well enough (I guess) to be 
> able to remember my dreams.

I always *prefer* not remembering my dreams. The ones I remember are so 
upsetting. Still, usually I don't remember a thing. Unless I get woken 
up during a dream...

(The dreams I do remember typically involve me being chased, beated, 
burned, drowned, cut, poisoned, burried alive, frozen to death, starved, 
and other such niceties. Or sometimes just being followed around by 
weird creatures. Yah, *totally* better not to remember!)

By the way... do you ever get that thing where the alarm clock wakes you 
up in the normal, but you're not really awake yet, and you just think 
about random crap for a while? Like, "hey, I should go encrypt that 
sandwich I made once at school, otherwise it'll go mouldy", and other 
nonesense. Or is that just me?

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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 16:02:10
Message: <47c5cfd2$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson escribió:
> But until fairly recently, I haven't slept well enough (I guess) to be 
> able to remember my dreams.  I went for years without being able to 
> recall anything I'd dreamed, but since I started immunotherapy for my 
> allergies, I've been remembering more of my dreams.

Something I noticed: If I'm woken up by something (like a sound, 
including an alarm clock), I rarely remember what I was dreaming. If I 
wake up by myself, I do.


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 16:09:52
Message: <47c5d1a0@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> You know how sometimes you're just laying in bed trying to go to sleep, 
> and suddenly you get that feeling like you're falling really fast just 
> for a split second? I really hate that. Makes me jump out of my skin... 
> but then of course you realise you only imagined it.

For several years I would always experience this just as I was getting 
drowsy enough to fall asleep.  It never happened more than once per 
night, even during periods when it happened every night.

Regards,
John


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 16:11:15
Message: <47c5d1f3$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:02:11 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> Jim Henderson escribió:
>> But until fairly recently, I haven't slept well enough (I guess) to be
>> able to remember my dreams.  I went for years without being able to
>> recall anything I'd dreamed, but since I started immunotherapy for my
>> allergies, I've been remembering more of my dreams.
> 
> Something I noticed: If I'm woken up by something (like a sound,
> including an alarm clock), I rarely remember what I was dreaming. If I
> wake up by myself, I do.

Interesting.  Myself, I remember these days even if my alarm wakes me up 
(but I have it set to music, so it's gradual rather than a blaring siren).

But more often than not, I'll wake up during the dream, especially if 
it's one I'm having as I'm falling asleep (as the one I described was).

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 16:15:05
Message: <47c5d2d9$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:58:12 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>> I have a very vivid recollection of being attacked in a dream (when I
>> was a kid) by a stuffed "plush" alligator.
>> 
>> But until fairly recently, I haven't slept well enough (I guess) to be
>> able to remember my dreams.
> 
> I always *prefer* not remembering my dreams. The ones I remember are so
> upsetting. Still, usually I don't remember a thing. Unless I get woken
> up during a dream...
> 
> (The dreams I do remember typically involve me being chased, beated,
> burned, drowned, cut, poisoned, burried alive, frozen to death, starved,
> and other such niceties. Or sometimes just being followed around by
> weird creatures. Yah, *totally* better not to remember!)

I read an article a few weeks ago that suggested that dreams are the 
place where your mind prepares you to deal with emergency/crisis 
situations.  I forget where I read that, but the article had a fair 
amount of detail about how they studied it and tied it into people who go 
into "automatic mode" when a crisis hits - like non-trained first 
responders at the scene of an automobile accident.  They typically 
describe feeling like they're on autopilot and not even really thinking 
about what they're doing - almost like they're watching from the 
sidelines.

> By the way... do you ever get that thing where the alarm clock wakes you
> up in the normal, but you're not really awake yet, and you just think
> about random crap for a while? Like, "hey, I should go encrypt that
> sandwich I made once at school, otherwise it'll go mouldy", and other
> nonesense. Or is that just me?

I do that every once in a while, sometimes I even say the weird sentences 
out loud - so my wife tells me.

Jim


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 19:42:28
Message: <47c60374$1@news.povray.org>
>> Heh, I was wondering how things were over there. "An earthquake near 
>> London" was not something I expected to hear. Glad you're OK, though.
>
> Well, apparently it's "the biggest earthquake in almost 25 years" (so 
> that's, what, 24 years then?)
>
> And I guess Lincolnshire is near to London for suitable definition of 
> "near"... ;-)

I was at the epicenter of the Nisqually earthquake in 2001 (6.8),
had a hutch tip over and break the glassware and doors.
It sounded like a train went through the house.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisqually_Earthquake
I was taking a bath at the time, and ended up standing there
dripping wet in just my undies =)


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 21:51:40
Message: <47c621bc$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> I read an article a few weeks ago that suggested that dreams are the 
> place where your mind prepares you to deal with emergency/crisis 
> situations.

Then my subconscious must be convinced that I will never be in a crisis 
situation.  All of my dreams recently have involved living an ordinary 
life in an ordinary place, doing ordinary things.

Well, there was one that involved me and four women, looking for some 
privacy, but I woke up before we found any...

Regards,
John


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 27 Feb 2008 22:26:10
Message: <47c629d2$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:51:38 -0500, John VanSickle wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> I read an article a few weeks ago that suggested that dreams are the
>> place where your mind prepares you to deal with emergency/crisis
>> situations.
> 
> Then my subconscious must be convinced that I will never be in a crisis
> situation.  All of my dreams recently have involved living an ordinary
> life in an ordinary place, doing ordinary things.

Maybe it's just that you don't remember the trials.  :-)

> Well, there was one that involved me and four women, looking for some
> privacy, but I woke up before we found any...

LOL!

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 00:20:27
Message: <47c6449b$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Oh, and in other news, apparently there was an earth quake last night...

Probably 'shopped, but amusing nonetheless

http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/13/1204118301/etchasketchquake.jpg

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Joel Yliluoma
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 02:04:12
Message: <slrnfscn7c.b0e.bisqwit@bisqwit.iki.fi>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:48:35 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> English has an expression "you come from the wrong side of the tracks", 
> i.e., you grew up in the poor neighborhood close to the noisy railroad 
> tracks, unlike us rich snobby folks.
>
> You don't even need to be particularly close to the tracks. I was in a 
> dorm room in university about two blocks away, and when the train with 4 
> locomotives pulling 450 cars behind it hit the horn, it set off the car 
> alarms for like 3 blocks.

I lived my childhood in a vicinity of the railroads, and I grew fond of
the sound of trains, and of the railroad announcements. It took me a long
time to forget how I missed those sounds when I moved.

-- 
Joel Yliluoma - http://iki.fi/bisqwit/


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 03:43:29
Message: <47c67430@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Probably 'shopped, but amusing nonetheless

> http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/13/1204118301/etchasketchquake.jpg

  What do you mean "probably"? Just compare the perspective of the wall
to the perspective of the tablets.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 04:17:42
Message: <47c67c36@news.povray.org>
Tim Attwood wrote:

> I was taking a bath at the time, and ended up standing there
> dripping wet in just my undies =) 

Thanks for the mental image. That's just how I wanted to start my work 
day... :-}

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 04:18:49
Message: <47c67c79$1@news.povray.org>
> Maybe it's just that you don't remember the trials.  :-)
> 
>> Well, there was one that involved me and four women, looking for some
>> privacy, but I woke up before we found any...

...no, I think he remembers the trails!

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 04:56:43
Message: <47c6855b$1@news.povray.org>
>> http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/13/1204118301/etchasketchquake.jpg
>
>  What do you mean "probably"? Just compare the perspective of the wall
> to the perspective of the tablets.

Or just look at the URL.  The b3ta board is a place to show off your 
humour/photoshop skills.  Just look at last weeks challenge:

http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/scientology/


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 06:21:31
Message: <47c6993b$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> I read an article a few weeks ago that suggested that dreams are the 
> place where your mind prepares you to deal with emergency/crisis 
> situations.

Excellent. I once woke myself up whilst trying to fend off an enraged 
velociraptor when my knee connected with the wall. Good to know my 
subconscious has all bases covered...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 06:30:30
Message: <47c69b56$1@news.povray.org>
>> I read an article a few weeks ago that suggested that dreams are the 
>> place where your mind prepares you to deal with emergency/crisis 
>> situations.
> 
> Excellent. I once woke myself up whilst trying to fend off an enraged 
> velociraptor when my knee connected with the wall. Good to know my 
> subconscious has all bases covered...

You've been reading too much XKCD. ;-)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 06:33:34
Message: <47c69c0e$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>> I read an article a few weeks ago that suggested that dreams are the 
>>> place where your mind prepares you to deal with emergency/crisis 
>>> situations.
>>
>> Excellent. I once woke myself up whilst trying to fend off an enraged 
>> velociraptor when my knee connected with the wall. Good to know my 
>> subconscious has all bases covered...
> 
> You've been reading too much XKCD. ;-)

Maybe (and it's all your fault), but this happened years ago...


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Dreams
Date: 28 Feb 2008 08:47:27
Message: <47c6bb6f$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> You know how sometimes you're just laying in bed trying to go to sleep, 
>> and suddenly you get that feeling like you're falling really fast just 
>> for a split second? I really hate that. Makes me jump out of my skin... 
>> but then of course you realise you only imagined it.
> 
>   Blog... ;)
> 

stop picking on him ;-)


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