>  Sounds fair. First you are in a dangerous car accident which might
> have even costed your life, and then you have to pay money for it.
> Yeah, fair.

Fair if you could have avoided the accident (eg by going slower or not 
following so closely).  If it was completely unavoidable then I can see your 
point, but who else is going to pay for it?  That's what insurance is for.

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Warp wrote:
>   Sounds fair. First you are in a dangerous car accident which might
> have even costed your life, and then you have to pay money for it.

What happens is that everyone's insurance pays for their own damage, in 
the event that it wasn't anybody's fault. "Nobody's fault" includes 
things like hailstorms, trees falling over onto your car, the bridge 
collapsing from the flood while you're crossing it, etc.  (Obviously, 
this last one is somebody's fault, but not the fault of anyone actually 
involved in the accident and taking damages.)

If it's a collision between cars, then somebody (or multiple somebodies) 
is at fault.

So, yeah, somebody has to pay for it, so?  Life isn't "fair".  You catch 
a serious disease, you have to pay to get cured too.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."

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scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> Fair if you could have avoided the accident (eg by going slower or not 
> following so closely).  If it was completely unavoidable then I can see your 
> point, but who else is going to pay for it?  That's what insurance is for.

  That's why we pay exorbitant taxes.

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                                                          - Warp

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> So, yeah, somebody has to pay for it, so?  Life isn't "fair".  You catch 
> a serious disease, you have to pay to get cured too.

  Not if you live in Canada, Cuba, Finland, or basically any western
country which is not the US. ;)

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                                                          - Warp

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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:22:47 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> In the US, at least in my experience, if it's "nobody's" fault, it's
>> "everybody's" fault (everyone who was involved)
> 
>   Sounds fair. First you are in a dangerous car accident which might
> have even costed your life, and then you have to pay money for it. Yeah,
> fair.

Nobody ever said life was fair.

But in reality, sure, you could be killed in an accident and it could 
well be entirely (or partially) your fault.

Jim

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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:55:34 -0500, Warp wrote:

> scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
>> Fair if you could have avoided the accident (eg by going slower or not
>> following so closely).  If it was completely unavoidable then I can see
>> your point, but who else is going to pay for it?  That's what insurance
>> is for.
> 
>   That's why we pay exorbitant taxes.

What is the average tax rate in Finland?  Here in the US it's around 30% 
(it's broken out by tiers, so it varies from person to person, along with 
exemptions and so on - I wish it were simpler).

Jim

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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:13:18 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> So, yeah, somebody has to pay for it, so?  Life isn't "fair".  You
>> catch a serious disease, you have to pay to get cured too.
> 
>   Not if you live in Canada, Cuba, Finland, or basically any western
> country which is not the US. ;)

Um, the doctors get paid, don't they?  Yes?  Then you're paying, money 
doesn't grow on trees.

Jim

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> >   That's why we pay exorbitant taxes.

> What is the average tax rate in Finland?  Here in the US it's around 30% 

  I suppose it's something like that. Perhaps a bit higher.

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                                                          - Warp

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:13:18 -0500, Warp wrote:

> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> So, yeah, somebody has to pay for it, so?  Life isn't "fair".  You
> >> catch a serious disease, you have to pay to get cured too.
> > 
> >   Not if you live in Canada, Cuba, Finland, or basically any western
> > country which is not the US. ;)

> Um, the doctors get paid, don't they?  Yes?  Then you're paying, money 
> doesn't grow on trees.

  Yes, through taxes. That's what they are for.

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                                                          - Warp

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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:27:21 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:13:18 -0500, Warp wrote:
> 
>> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> >> So, yeah, somebody has to pay for it, so?  Life isn't "fair".  You
>> >> catch a serious disease, you have to pay to get cured too.
>> > 
>> >   Not if you live in Canada, Cuba, Finland, or basically any western
>> > country which is not the US. ;)
> 
>> Um, the doctors get paid, don't they?  Yes?  Then you're paying, money
>> doesn't grow on trees.
> 
>   Yes, through taxes. That's what they are for.

Ding ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner. :-)

You pay taxes, I pay an insurance premium.  Either way, you and I both 
pay to get cured.

Jim

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