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Today's:
http://xkcd.com/380/
I actually looked up what U+FDD0 was in the unicode charts. Now I don't
know whether to hang my head in shame, or hold it high and proud.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Today's:
>
> http://xkcd.com/380/
>
> I actually looked up what U+FDD0 was in the unicode charts. Now I don't
> know whether to hang my head in shame, or hold it high and proud.
Sorry, you lost me totally here. I don't seem to understand this
emoticon.png nor see I any connection to U+FDD0.
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:17:32 +0100, andrel wrote:
> nor see I any connection to U+FDD0.
Hover your mouse over the comic.
Though admittedly, I don't understand the joke either...
Jim
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"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmail com> a écrit dans le message de news:
47A### [at] hotmailcom...
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> Today's:
>>
>> http://xkcd.com/380/
>>
>> I actually looked up what U+FDD0 was in the unicode charts. Now I don't
>> know whether to hang my head in shame, or hold it high and proud.
> Sorry, you lost me totally here. I don't seem to understand this
> emoticon.png nor see I any connection to U+FDD0.
It's in the alt text, and it's a Harry Potter reference.
G.
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> "andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 47A### [at] hotmailcom...
>> Mike Raiford wrote:
>>> Today's:
>>>
>>> http://xkcd.com/380/
>>>
>>> I actually looked up what U+FDD0 was in the unicode charts. Now I don't
>>> know whether to hang my head in shame, or hold it high and proud.
>> Sorry, you lost me totally here. I don't seem to understand this
>> emoticon.png nor see I any connection to U+FDD0.
>
> It's in the alt text, and it's a Harry Potter reference.
>
I see it now, and it begins to make sense. Yet, I am starting to feel
quite old. I found most of the xkcd and bash references posted recently
not funny at all, not even for a brief smile actually. So I assume I
have lost all my connections to the real world of young people. :(
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andrel wrote:
> I see it now, and it begins to make sense. Yet, I am starting to feel
> quite old. I found most of the xkcd and bash references posted recently
> not funny at all, not even for a brief smile actually. So I assume I
> have lost all my connections to the real world of young people. :(
"Real world" and "bash.org" in the same sentence... advanced!
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On 6 Feb 2008 13:33:12 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:17:32 +0100, andrel wrote:
>
>> nor see I any connection to U+FDD0.
>
>Hover your mouse over the comic.
>
>Though admittedly, I don't understand the joke either...
>
>Jim
Wow, that's allot to do to get the joke.
1) Read the comic, don't understand.
2) Hover to read the ALT text, as Jim pointed out.
3) View properties because ALT text is too damn long.
4) Google basilisk.
5) Read Wikipedia article about basilisk.
6) Make the connections to the comic in my mind.
7) Realize I just wasted a few more minutes of my life figuring out a comic that is
not funny.
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Kyle wrote:
> Wow, that's allot to do to get the joke.
>
> 1) Read the comic, don't understand.
> 2) Hover to read the ALT text, as Jim pointed out.
> 3) View properties because ALT text is too damn long.
> 4) Google basilisk.
> 5) Read Wikipedia article about basilisk.
> 6) Make the connections to the comic in my mind.
> 7) Realize I just wasted a few more minutes of my life figuring out a comic that is
not funny.
Yeah, it's not terribly amusing this time around. Some are, some aren't.
[I can, however, guarantee that every single comment generates at least
one "OMG, best xkcd ever!!!eleven!" comment in the forums.]
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:50:06 -0500, Kyle wrote:
> On 6 Feb 2008 13:33:12 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:17:32 +0100, andrel wrote:
>>
>>> nor see I any connection to U+FDD0.
>>
>>Hover your mouse over the comic.
>>
>>Though admittedly, I don't understand the joke either...
>>
>>Jim
>
> Wow, that's allot to do to get the joke.
>
> 1) Read the comic, don't understand.
> 2) Hover to read the ALT text, as Jim pointed out. 3) View properties
> because ALT text is too damn long. 4) Google basilisk.
> 5) Read Wikipedia article about basilisk. 6) Make the connections to the
> comic in my mind. 7) Realize I just wasted a few more minutes of my life
> figuring out a comic that is not funny.
Well, I do know what a basilisk is, and by the most amazing coincidence,
I get the joke now. What's more, I even find it to be somewhat funny,
but I think it'd have been funnier if the person had turned to stone as a
result.
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Well, I do know what a basilisk is, and by the most amazing coincidence,
> I get the joke now.
I still don't.
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Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> Well, I do know what a basilisk is, and by the most amazing coincidence,
>> I get the joke now.
>
> I still don't.
It's a monster that turns you to stone if you see its face. Like Medeusa.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> >> Well, I do know what a basilisk is, and by the most amazing coincidence,
> >> I get the joke now.
> >
> > I still don't.
> It's a monster that turns you to stone if you see its face. Like Medeusa.
I know. But I still don't get the *joke* in that strip.
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Warp wrote:
>> It's a monster that turns you to stone if you see its face. Like Medeusa.
>
> I know. But I still don't get the *joke* in that strip.
>
AFAIK the joke was U+FDD0 is not a renderable character, according to
the Unicode spec, so, the eye of the basilisk is not visible, ergo no
one turns to stone, or dies. I still can't figure out why the basilisk's
use of a smiley emoticon would kill someone. I suppose it's because the
person is seeing an abstract form of the basilisk's face?
It didn't make me laugh, but it did make me curious about what U+FDD0
was, I figured it was one of the surrogating characters for use in UTF16.
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Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >> It's a monster that turns you to stone if you see its face. Like Medeusa.
> >
> > I know. But I still don't get the *joke* in that strip.
> >
> AFAIK the joke was U+FDD0 is not a renderable character
I got the impression that (and in general, most of the xkcd strip alt
tags) was just an additional, more hidden joke, not the main joke of the
comic strip. I just didn't get the main one.
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Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> AFAIK the joke was U+FDD0 is not a renderable character, according to
> the Unicode spec, so, the eye of the basilisk is not visible, ergo no
> one turns to stone, or dies. I still can't figure out why the basilisk's
> use of a smiley emoticon would kill someone. I suppose it's because the
> person is seeing an abstract form of the basilisk's face?
no, supposedly, U+FDD0 is the invisible character preceding the emoticon?
not funny. You have to be an übber geek to have that much knowledge of HP and
Unicode chars. By the time you googled it all and is ready for the laugh, the
magic is gone... ;)
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nemesis wrote:
> Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> AFAIK the joke was U+FDD0 is not a renderable character, according to
>> the Unicode spec, so, the eye of the basilisk is not visible, ergo no
>> one turns to stone, or dies. I still can't figure out why the basilisk's
>> use of a smiley emoticon would kill someone. I suppose it's because the
>> person is seeing an abstract form of the basilisk's face?
>
> no, supposedly, U+FDD0 is the invisible character preceding the emoticon?
>
> not funny. You have to be an übber geek to have that much knowledge of HP and
> Unicode chars. By the time you googled it all and is ready for the laugh, the
> magic is gone... ;)
>
>
I don't think it's that complicated.
The Basilisk turns you to stone when you see it's eyes.
The emoticon is supposed to be a face ( :) ).
The ':' is a set of eyes that were typed by the Basilisk, and so they
belong to the basilisk, and so they are the Basilisk's eyes.
When the guy saw them, he died.
The alt-tag just confused things for me until I figured out the main
joke... at which point I couldn't believe I spent so much time figuring
out something so simple.
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> a écrit dans le message de news:
47ab8e97@news.povray.org...
> I got the impression that (and in general, most of the xkcd strip alt
> tags) was just an additional, more hidden joke, not the main joke of the
> comic strip. I just didn't get the main one.
I think the joke is just one of those "tradition vs modernity" ones, like
Santa Claus being stuck in electric heater or vampires starving due to the
lack of virgins.
It's also a take on the moral panic about "online predators", the stick guy
being killed in a chatroom after asking a/s/l.
G.
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> I got the impression that (and in general, most of the xkcd strip alt
> tags) was just an additional, more hidden joke, not the main joke of the
> comic strip. I just didn't get the main one.
The main cartoon seems fairly simple to me, with no need to confuse yourself
with the alt text.
Someone called "BSLSK05" comes along, and gives a :) which kills the stick
dude. The last frame shows some reptile at the other computer. If you make
the connection between the username, killing by staring, and the reptile
then you "get" the cartoon.
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:50:06 -0500, Kyle wrote:
> Wow, that's allot to do to get the joke.
>
> 1) Read the comic, don't understand.
> 2) Hover to read the ALT text, as Jim pointed out.
> 3) View properties because ALT text is too damn long.
> 4) Google basilisk.
> 5) Read Wikipedia article about basilisk.
> 6) Make the connections to the comic in my mind.
> 7) Realize I just wasted a few more minutes of my life
> figuring out a comic that is not funny.
Steps 4 to 6 can be substituted with general education.
Basically, if you're of the target group of XKCD, you have likely
encountered basilisks or creatures derived from basilisks in some
context -- fantasy books, video games, sci-fi series, Donald Duck.
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:09:53 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> It's a monster that turns you to stone if you see its face. Like Medeusa.
That's a gorgon you're talking about.
Basilisk sight just kills you.
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Joel Yliluoma escribió:
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:50:06 -0500, Kyle wrote:
>> Wow, that's allot to do to get the joke.
>>
>> 1) Read the comic, don't understand.
>> 2) Hover to read the ALT text, as Jim pointed out.
>> 3) View properties because ALT text is too damn long.
>> 4) Google basilisk.
>> 5) Read Wikipedia article about basilisk.
>> 6) Make the connections to the comic in my mind.
>> 7) Realize I just wasted a few more minutes of my life
>> figuring out a comic that is not funny.
>
> Steps 4 to 6 can be substituted with general education.
> Basically, if you're of the target group of XKCD, you have likely
> encountered basilisks or creatures derived from basilisks in some
> context -- fantasy books, video games, sci-fi series, Donald Duck.
>
I knew it from a terror book I read probably when I was 10.
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"scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> Someone called "BSLSK05" comes along, and gives a :) which kills the stick
> dude. The last frame shows some reptile at the other computer. If you make
> the connection between the username, killing by staring, and the reptile
> then you "get" the cartoon.
only if you know Harry Potter mythos...
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Joel Yliluoma <bis### [at] ikifi> wrote:
> fantasy books, video games, sci-fi series, Donald Duck.
You forgot role-playing. :)
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:52:35 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
>> Someone called "BSLSK05" comes along, and gives a :) which kills the
>> stick dude. The last frame shows some reptile at the other computer.
>> If you make the connection between the username, killing by staring,
>> and the reptile then you "get" the cartoon.
>
> only if you know Harry Potter mythos...
Basilisks in literature predate Harry Potter by several millenia.
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nemesis escribió:
> "scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
>> Someone called "BSLSK05" comes along, and gives a :) which kills the stick
>> dude. The last frame shows some reptile at the other computer. If you make
>> the connection between the username, killing by staring, and the reptile
>> then you "get" the cartoon.
>
> only if you know Harry Potter mythos...
>
What does Harry Potter have to do with this?
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"Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote:
> Basilisks in literature predate Harry Potter by several millenia.
certainly never been as wildly popular as dragons, centaurs, sphinx, elves or
whatnot because I've never heard of them. Though if they are snakes, Medusa
should be their queen?
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:47:03 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>> > Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> >> Well, I do know what a basilisk is, and by the most amazing
>> >> coincidence, I get the joke now.
>> >
>> > I still don't.
>
>> It's a monster that turns you to stone if you see its face. Like
>> Medeusa.
>
> I know. But I still don't get the *joke* in that strip.
Online is about the safest way to meet something that can turn you into
stone.
Jim
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:52:35 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> "scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
>> Someone called "BSLSK05" comes along, and gives a :) which kills the
>> stick dude. The last frame shows some reptile at the other computer.
>> If you make the connection between the username, killing by staring,
>> and the reptile then you "get" the cartoon.
>
> only if you know Harry Potter mythos...
The Basilisk isn't unique to Harry Potter. I honestly didn't even get
the HP reference, being an old D&D player myself. Of course, that's not
where it came from either....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilisk
Jim
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:17:59 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> because I've never heard of them.
What, just because you've never heard of them, they weren't popular in
literature?
Henry III (Shakespeare) and The Zadig (Voltaire) are just a couple of
places it has appeared.
Jim
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:05:41 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> nemesis escribió:
>> "scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
>>> Someone called "BSLSK05" comes along, and gives a :) which kills the
>>> stick dude. The last frame shows some reptile at the other computer.
>>> If you make the connection between the username, killing by staring,
>>> and the reptile then you "get" the cartoon.
>>
>> only if you know Harry Potter mythos...
>>
>>
> What does Harry Potter have to do with this?
It's the most common place people know about the Basilisk from these
days. Just like the most common place people have seen Hugh Laurie is in
House, so when referencing him often people will say "Hugh Laurie - you
know, the guy on House"? It doesn't matter that he's very well known for
UK programmes like Blackadder, A Bit of Fry and Laurie, and Jeeves and
Wooster; over here in the US, chances are better that you've heard of
Hosue than the others (though that in and of itself is sad).
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:17:59 -0500, nemesis wrote:
>
> > because I've never heard of them.
>
> What, just because you've never heard of them, they weren't popular in
> literature?
>
> Henry III (Shakespeare) and The Zadig (Voltaire) are just a couple of
> places it has appeared.
I'm waiting for Orchid to come by and laugh off of my own ignorance... ;)
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:44:51 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:17:59 -0500, nemesis wrote:
>>
>> > because I've never heard of them.
>>
>> What, just because you've never heard of them, they weren't popular in
>> literature?
>>
>> Henry III (Shakespeare) and The Zadig (Voltaire) are just a couple of
>> places it has appeared.
>
> I'm waiting for Orchid to come by and laugh off of my own ignorance...
> ;)
That would only be fair. ;-)
Jim
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On 8 Feb 2008 12:57:15 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Joel Yliluoma <bis### [at] ikifi> wrote:
>> fantasy books, video games, sci-fi series, Donald Duck.
>
> You forgot role-playing. :)
Touché!
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