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From: Invisible
Subject: I wonder why
Date: 4 Feb 2008 10:44:06
Message: <47a732c6$1@news.povray.org>
A few weeks ago, I had a look through ebuyer's catelogue, and I came 
across something truly marvelous.

It's called a Netgear ProSafe FVS114. It's a hardware firewall and VPN 
tunneling device. Exactly what I need for a project I'm looking at. And 
it's a tiny £40. (By contrast, the firewall/VPN box we have at work is 
about £7,000. But then, it does say Cisco on it...)

Anyway, I got hold of the user manual from Netgear's website and had a 
good read. It sounds like quite a flexible device. Perfect for what I 
want to do. Yay! (It's also a 4-port Ethernet switch - extra useful!)

So today I went back to ebuyer to buy one. Except... it's gone. 
Completely vanished. I can't find it anywhere. The closest thing I can 
find is the Netgear FVS318 - but that's £100. I can't understand where 
the device I wanted has gone...

Damn. I think I just missed a seriously good deal. :-(

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From: St 
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 4 Feb 2008 10:53:14
Message: <47a734ea$1@news.povray.org>
http://www.ciao.co.uk/NETGEAR_ProSafe_VPN_Firewall_8_FVS114__6274512

   ~Steve~


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 4 Feb 2008 10:54:34
Message: <47a7353a$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Damn. I think I just missed a seriously good deal. :-(

Amazon.co.uk also sell it, and it's in stock, and it's still £40. Yay!

Thank you Froogle!! :-D

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 4 Feb 2008 15:27:44
Message: <47A7754F.5000609@hotmail.com>
Invisible wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
> 
>> Damn. I think I just missed a seriously good deal. :-(
> 
> Amazon.co.uk also sell it, and it's in stock, and it's still £40. Yay!
> 
> Thank you Froogle!! :-D
> 
That's the spirit. First complain here and then ask Google.

Sounds like an cheap solution to blow holes in your firewall. Are you 
sure your company is not insecure enough by management design alone to 
also need to physically blow it? or is it for home use?


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 4 Feb 2008 16:45:52
Message: <47a78790$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

> That's the spirit. First complain here and then ask Google.

Well... ;-)

> Sounds like an cheap solution to blow holes in your firewall. Are you 
> sure your company is not insecure enough by management design alone to 
> also need to physically blow it? or is it for home use?

No no, this puppy is just for home use. ;-)

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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 5 Feb 2008 07:06:41
Message: <47a85151$1@news.povray.org>
>> That's the spirit. First complain here and then ask Google.
>
> Well... ;-)
>
>> Sounds like an cheap solution to blow holes in your firewall. Are you 
>> sure your company is not insecure enough by management design alone to 
>> also need to physically blow it? or is it for home use?
>
> No no, this puppy is just for home use. ;-)

Refurbished for $20, 90 day Warranty

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=FVS114NAR&cm_mmc=googleproducts-_-Networking-_-NetworkingSwitchesandHubs-_-FVS114NAR&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=FVS114NAR


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 5 Feb 2008 07:14:54
Message: <47a8533e$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Amazon.co.uk also sell it, and it's in stock, and it's still £40. Yay!

Interesting... I purchased it from Amazon, but it's actually some other 
random company selling it to me. Hmm. Oh well, just so long as it turns 
up OK! ;-)

[I actually just ordered 2, just in case they vanish again...]

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 5 Feb 2008 12:41:09
Message: <47a89fb5$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:14:45 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> Interesting... I purchased it from Amazon, but it's actually some other
> random company selling it to me. Hmm. Oh well, just so long as it turns
> up OK! ;-)

Amazon does this sort of thing - their main products are books, music, 
and videos, but they've created a sort of "marketplace" where you can buy 
nearly anything you want...

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 5 Feb 2008 13:15:43
Message: <47a8a7cf$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> Amazon does this sort of thing - their main products are books, music, 
> and videos, but they've created a sort of "marketplace" where you can buy 
> nearly anything you want...

I see... So if I buy a fridge from Amazon, I'm really buying it from 
some other random company. Amazon just runs the website and processes 
the payments? (And takes a slice of the money...)

I was wondering how a book store is suddenly able to sell cars and 
office desks...

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 5 Feb 2008 13:28:18
Message: <47a8aac2$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:16:02 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> Amazon does this sort of thing - their main products are books, music,
>> and videos, but they've created a sort of "marketplace" where you can
>> buy nearly anything you want...
> 
> I see... So if I buy a fridge from Amazon, I'm really buying it from
> some other random company. Amazon just runs the website and processes
> the payments? (And takes a slice of the money...)

Yep, exactly. :-)

> I was wondering how a book store is suddenly able to sell cars and
> office desks...

Third party vendors. :-)

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: I wonder why
Date: 10 Feb 2008 13:08:39
Message: <47af3da7$1@news.povray.org>
And now I have one FVS114 sitting under my desk working away.

Hmm. Except that a few minutes ago, it suddenly stopped working 
completely. (As in, wouldn't even answer ping requests.) I had to reset 
it. But then it worked fine again. Hmm... that had *better* not happen 
again! :-S

Anyway, now all I need to figure out is how to open a hole in the outer 
router to let IPsec traffic through to the FVS114. Hmm, goodie. Despite 
having read the entire user manual, I can't find any details of exactly 
what settings are required for this. Oh dear.

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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