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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 12:25:31
Message: <47a3560b@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:17:40 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> Now you know why I listen to classical music.

Have you ever listened to the Brian Setzer Band?  My wife introduced me 
to his stuff on our trip back east - we bought "Wolfgang's Night Out", 
which is a very interesting reinterpretation of several classical pieces 
in a swing style. (Listening right now to "Take the 5th", which is based 
on Beethoven's 5th symphony, first movement).

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 12:26:41
Message: <47a35651$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:26:34 -0500, Warp wrote:

>   You advertise your blog but you don't use it. You still haven't
>   learned,
> I see. ;)

The fact that he has continued to post means he's making progress in the 
"not caring what other people think" department.  Good job, Invis! 
(seriously!).

Jim


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 12:29:14
Message: <sqk6q392a025b1cgi3ofsbr6sn0k4comed@4ax.com>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:29:36 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:


>OOOOOOHHHH YEAH!
>It's like LIGHTNING!
>Everybody was FRIGHTNING!
>But the music was SOOTHING!
>And then they all started GROOVING!
>
>And the man in the back said "everyone attack" and it turned into a 
>ballroom blitz.
>And the girl in the corner said "boy I wanna warm ya, it'll turn into a 
>ballroom blitz"... Ballroom blitz!
>
>[You have no idea how long I had that thing stuck in my head!]

I used to listen to the Krokus version of that song repeatedly.  Come to think of it,
I probably still would if I had a copy of it other than the one I have on vinyl.


>It's just a jump to the left,
>And then a step to the right.
>With your hands on your hips,
>You bring your knees in tight.
>But it's the pelvic thrust
>That really drives you insane.
>Let's do the Time Warp again!
>
>[Oh you have GOT me to KIDDING me!!]

Oh dear.  I assume you've seen The Rocky Horror Picture Show?


>Mirrors on the ceiling,
>The pink champagne on ice
>And she said 'We are all just prisoners here, of our own device'
>And in the master's chambers,
>They gathered for the feast
>They stab it with their steely knives,
>But they just can't kill the beast

I listened to this one too much when I was younger.  I only like to hear it
occasionally now.


>Thinkin' of you's workin' up my appetite,
>Looking forward to a little afternoon delight.
>Rubbin' sticks and stones together makes the sparks ingite,
>And the thought of rubbin' you is getting so exciting.
>Sky rockets in flight. Afternoon delight. Oooo, afternoon delight.
>

A little afternoon delight is always good.  ;-)


>Oh when I look back now
>That summer seemed to last forever
>And if I had the choice
>Yeah - I'd always wanna be there
>Those were the best days of my life

Annoying.


>If it hadn't been for Cotton-Eye Joe
>I'd been married long time ago.
>Where did you come from, where did you go?
>Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?
>
>[Are you KIDDING me??!?!]

Now it's going to be stuck in my head all day.


>All the leaves are brown,
>And the sky is grey.
>I've been for a walk
>On a winter's day.
>I'd be safe and warm
>If I was in L.A.
>California dreaming...

That's a good laid-back one.


>(Wake me up)
>Wake me up inside.
>(I can't wake up)
>Wake me up inside.
>(Save me)
>Call my name and save me from the dark.
>(Wake me up)
>Bid my blood to run.
>(I can't wake up)
>Before I come undone.
>(Save me)
>Save me from the nothing I've become.

I love this song, but everything else they do all sounds the same to me, drab and
annoying.


>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllll....
>You know you make me wanna SHOUT!
>Kick my heels up and SHOUT!
>Throw my hands up and SHOUT!
>Throw my head back and SHOUT!
>Come on now...

I always think of Animal House when I hear this.


>I dont know who you are or what you do, or where you go when youre not 
>around.
>I dont know anything about you baby, but youre everything Im dreaming of.
>I dont know who you are, but youre a real dead ringer for love.
>A real dead ringer for love.

This is the only one I don't know by reading the lyrics.  All of the others come to
mind right away.


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 13:13:59
Message: <47a36167$1@news.povray.org>
>> It's just a jump to the left,
>> And then a step to the right.
>> With your hands on your hips,
>> You bring your knees in tight.
>> But it's the pelvic thrust
>> That really drives you insane.
>> Let's do the Time Warp again!
>>
>> [Oh you have GOT me to KIDDING me!!]
> 
> Oh dear.  I assume you've seen The Rocky Horror Picture Show?

I've heard tell of it, but I know nothing about it other than the name. 
And this God-aweful song.

> A little afternoon delight is always good.  ;-)

Really?

>> If it hadn't been for Cotton-Eye Joe
>> I'd been married long time ago.
>> Where did you come from, where did you go?
>> Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?
>>
>> [Are you KIDDING me??!?!]
> 
> Now it's going to be stuck in my head all day.

Hahahaha!

Do you remember a few months later they made an identical song with 
slightly different lyrics? I can't even remember the name now...

>> All the leaves are brown,
>> And the sky is grey.
>> I've been for a walk
>> On a winter's day.
>> I'd be safe and warm
>> If I was in L.A.
>> California dreaming...
> 
> That's a good laid-back one.

I agree.

>> (Wake me up)
>> Wake me up inside.
>> (I can't wake up)
>> Wake me up inside.
>> (Save me)
>> Call my name and save me from the dark.
>> (Wake me up)
>> Bid my blood to run.
>> (I can't wake up)
>> Before I come undone.
>> (Save me)
>> Save me from the nothing I've become.
> 
> I love this song, but everything else they do all sounds the same to me, drab and
annoying.

It's... different. (Since I don't know who it is, I can't comment on the 
rest.)

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: [There's more!]
Date: 1 Feb 2008 13:55:44
Message: <47a36b30$1@news.povray.org>
OK, I've remembered a few more now...



You're everywhere and no where, baby,
Thats where you're at.
Going down a bumpy hillside,
In your hippy hat.
Flying out across the country
And getting fat.
Saying everything is groovy
When your tyres are flat.

[I think you know where this is going...]



Wear a tall hat like a druid in the old days.
Wear a tall hat and a tattooed gown.
Ride a white swan like the people of the Beltane.
Wear your hair long, babe, you can`t go wrong.

[Yes, I had to look this up. The lyrics are too incomprehensible...]



Kim's the first girl I kissed.
I was so nervous that I nearly missed.
She's had a couple of kids since then.
I haven't seen her since God knows when.





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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 14:40:02
Message: <j7t6q3l4jlfhllola1bf94bmshvurha608@4ax.com>
On 1 Feb 2008 12:25:31 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:17:40 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Now you know why I listen to classical music.
>
>Have you ever listened to the Brian Setzer Band?  My wife introduced me 
>to his stuff on our trip back east - we bought "Wolfgang's Night Out", 
>which is a very interesting reinterpretation of several classical pieces 
>in a swing style. (Listening right now to "Take the 5th", which is based 
>on Beethoven's 5th symphony, first movement).
>
>Jim

I can't say that I've heard of him so I looked him up on Wikipedia. (N.B. Andrew
:) I might have liked him way back when I listened to Rockabilly and Cajun. I
quite like some classical pieces done by Heavy/Rock bands. Who recorded "In the
hall of the mountain King"? I can only imagine what the "Flight of the
Bumblebee" sounds like. I'll look out for him in the second hand record shops.
:)

P.S. Sorry I can't stop myself. I'll take -10 karma points.

PPS I've just discovered "My name is Earl"

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 14:44:53
Message: <elt6q3549ofmdtu6c78qdfohi9h0t8rsf6@4ax.com>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:29:14 -0500, Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote:

>Oh dear.  I assume you've seen The Rocky Horror Picture Show?

That makes Così fan tutte seem classy

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 14:52:46
Message: <j3u6q3d556896sihto3jkn5abjshlh2bdq@4ax.com>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:29:08 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Warp wrote:
>
>>   You advertise your blog but you don't use it. You still haven't learned,
>> I see. ;)
>
>Ah, c'mon, I just thought this would make a little game that a few 
>people might enjoy joining in with... ;-)

Oh! Yes we did. :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 14:56:01
Message: <47a37951$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> I can't say that I've heard of him so I looked him up on Wikipedia. (N.B. Andrew

nota bene?

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 15:14:57
Message: <47a37dc1$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:40:01 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>  I quite like some classical pieces done by Heavy/Rock bands.

I've heard a few like that, and I also quite like them.  It's always fun 
to see musicians (regardless of genre) who have *real* talent.

> Who recorded "In the hall of the mountain King"? 

You mean the original?  Originally, it was part of the Peer Gynt suite 
done by Edward Grieg.

> I can only imagine what
> the "Flight of the Bumblebee" sounds like.

Incredible is the only way to describe it.  There's lyrics, too, which I 
didn't think I'd like, but it's very well done.

Jim


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 16:36:47
Message: <ak37q3triinrdujb8a6ekpjeaj79858564@4ax.com>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:14:34 +0000, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>> Oh dear.  I assume you've seen The Rocky Horror Picture Show?
>
>I've heard tell of it, but I know nothing about it other than the name. 
>And this God-aweful song.

They used to show it at the midnight movies around here and had actors in the aisles
playing out some of the scenes and generally messing with the attendees.  If you get a
chance to, go check it out.
It's one of those things you have to experience.

>> A little afternoon delight is always good.  ;-)
>
>Really?

Yes.

>> Now it's going to be stuck in my head all day.
>
>Hahahaha!

 :-P

>Do you remember a few months later they made an identical song with 
>slightly different lyrics? I can't even remember the name now...

No, and I really don't want to know about it either.  The first one was bad enough.

>> I love this song, but everything else they do all sounds the same to me, drab and
annoying.
>
>It's... different. (Since I don't know who it is, I can't comment on the 
>rest.)

Evanescence...

http://evanescence.com/


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 16:40:01
Message: <dc47q35hpic21u2s2avn8ebhmds6r4n3gm@4ax.com>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:56:36 +0000, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>> I can't say that I've heard of him so I looked him up on Wikipedia. (N.B. Andrew
>
>nota bene?

Yes, well done :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 17:27:23
Message: <1i47q3lb8uplertmn618tnsf3m71p1npim@4ax.com>
On 1 Feb 2008 15:14:57 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:40:01 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>>  I quite like some classical pieces done by Heavy/Rock bands.
>
>I've heard a few like that, and I also quite like them.  It's always fun 
>to see musicians (regardless of genre) who have *real* talent.

Agreed, be it rock, classical, folk or especially world music.

>> Who recorded "In the hall of the mountain King"? 
>
>You mean the original?  Originally, it was part of the Peer Gynt suite 
>done by Edward Grieg.

LOL :)
I tried to google it to no avail. I think that I remember hearing it on Alan
Freeman's "Rock Show" BBC radio programme in the 70's. But it was the 70's and
it could have been anything :) 
I heard a good version at the National Theatre (now the RNT) years ago, in the
play. One of the few Ibsen's I like.

>> I can only imagine what
>> the "Flight of the Bumblebee" sounds like.
>
>Incredible is the only way to describe it.  

Understood!

>There's lyrics, too, which I 
>didn't think I'd like, but it's very well done.
>

The mind boggles :)
Which reminds me of the catalogue aria from Don Giovanni. Have you heard Girlie
Girlie by Sophia George 1986?

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 17:29:37
Message: <6977q3pvtkpk701h0t84uopl33aud2m4fl@4ax.com>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:36:47 -0500, Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote:

>
>They used to show it at the midnight movies around here and had actors in the aisles
playing out some of the scenes and generally messing with the attendees.  If you get a
chance to, go check it out.
>It's one of those things you have to experience.

If you like dressing up in corsets :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 1 Feb 2008 19:28:32
Message: <47a3b930$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:27:22 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 1 Feb 2008 15:14:57 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:40:01 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>  I quite like some classical pieces done by Heavy/Rock bands.
>>
>>I've heard a few like that, and I also quite like them.  It's always fun
>>to see musicians (regardless of genre) who have *real* talent.
> 
> Agreed, be it rock, classical, folk or especially world music.

Yep.  As I live next door to a place with (at last count) 3 garage bands 
(one of the guys is a sound engineer, so he has all manner of "artists" 
come in), and most of what we hear, well, let's just say that if we 
called them "three-chord wonders", it'd be an insult to three-cord 
wonders the world over.  One of the percussionists can't keep a steady 
beat, even.

Personally, I'm a classical fan - mostly Romantic period, though I like a 
fair amount of Baroque music as well.

Right now, I'm listening to the 1812 Overture.  I think it's the Telarc 
Digital recording (but I could be wrong, I've got a couple recordings of 
it).

>>> Who recorded "In the hall of the mountain King"?
>>
>>You mean the original?  Originally, it was part of the Peer Gynt suite
>>done by Edward Grieg.
> 
> LOL :)
> I tried to google it to no avail. I think that I remember hearing it on
> Alan Freeman's "Rock Show" BBC radio programme in the 70's. But it was
> the 70's and it could have been anything :)
> I heard a good version at the National Theatre (now the RNT) years ago,
> in the play. One of the few Ibsen's I like.

I haven't seen the play myself; there is a recorded orchestral version 
I've heard that has lyrics in German that I really like.  I may have to 
dig that up now, in fact...Most of the recordings are just orchestral.

>>> I can only imagine what
>>> the "Flight of the Bumblebee" sounds like.
>>
>>Incredible is the only way to describe it.
> 
> Understood!

Have you ever listened to Joe Satriani?  The album _Surfing with the 
Alien_ is particularly good - I like "Midnight" from that album - some 
outstanding technical guitar playing in that track.

>>There's lyrics, too, which I
>>didn't think I'd like, but it's very well done.
>>
> The mind boggles :)
> Which reminds me of the catalogue aria from Don Giovanni. Have you heard
> Girlie Girlie by Sophia George 1986?

I haven't - sounds like it might be interesting, though.  Mozart is an 
interesting composer - I especially like the Symphony k16a, at least 
about the first 30 bars of the first movement.  I get an image of people 
running through a forest (like a chase).

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 2 Feb 2008 04:09:25
Message: <47a43345@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> The fact that he has continued to post means he's making progress in the 
> "not caring what other people think" department.

  I suppose it could be seen like that too. :P

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: [And more]
Date: 2 Feb 2008 08:40:43
Message: <47a472db$1@news.povray.org>
You're too shy, shy
Hush, hush, eye to eye...


Oooooooohhhhh ya don't get me, I'm part of the union, ya don't get me, 
I'm part of the union, ya don't get me, I'm part of the union till the 
day I die. Till the day I die...

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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 2 Feb 2008 13:30:09
Message: <47a4b6b1@news.povray.org>
Since no one's biting...

>
> 1) We'll always be together
> However far it seems
> We'll always be together

Together in Electric Dreams
Human League

> 2) You ask about my consience
> And I offer you my soul
> You ask if Ill grow to be a wise man
> Well I ask if Ill grow old

Blaze of Glory
Bon Jovi

> 3) A waltz when she walks in the room
> She blows back the hair from her face
> She turns to the window to sway in the moonlight
> Even her shadow has grace

So She Dances
Josh Groban

> 4) Could I walk out to sea way beyond these breakers
> We have no place amongst the movers and the shakers

A Million Lights
Tree63 (SA band)

> 5)  I don't know if you can see the changes that have come over me,
> These last few days I've been afraid I might drift away,
> I've been telling old stories, singing songs, that make me think of where
I
> came from,
> And that's the reason why I seem so far away today.

Caledonia
Scottish traditional


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 2 Feb 2008 14:27:29
Message: <47A4C42F.1000507@hotmail.com>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> Since no one's biting...
> 
>> 5)  I don't know if you can see the changes that have come over me,
>> These last few days I've been afraid I might drift away,
>> I've been telling old stories, singing songs, that make me think of where
> I came from,
>> And that's the reason why I seem so far away today.
> 
> Caledonia
> Scottish traditional
> 
I do have that in my collection, in a version by Lisa Kelly from the 
'new journey' of the 'celtic woman'. 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_oi6S4kLuY (were there any rules 
concerning linking to possibly copyrighted material at youtube?)) . 
Eventhough it is one of my favorites from that album I didn't recognize 
the text.


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 2 Feb 2008 14:55:26
Message: <47a4caae$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:
> And lo on Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:40:32 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did
> spake, saying:
>>>> Let's do the Time Warp again!
>>>>
>>>> [Oh you have GOT me to KIDDING me!!]
>>>  Ah now it's one of only three musicals I can stand.
>>
>> ...??
> 
> Bugsy Malone, Little Shop of Horrors, Rocky Horror.
> 
> "You'll be a dentist, you have a talent for causing great PAIN"
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtMizMQ6oM
> 

Might I suggest you add "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" to that musicals
list? In my list of musicals I would dress in drag to go see live,
Hedwig ranks much higher then Rocky Horror.

>>>> If it hadn't been for Cotton-Eye Joe
>>>> I'd been married long time ago.
>>>> Where did you come from, where did you go?
>>>> Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?
>>>>
>>>> [Are you KIDDING me??!?!]
>>>  Hey I've got that one too.
>>
>> Seriously. We've got all this country and folk music, and then THIS
>> comes on... WHAT???
> 
> Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-haaa!
> 

Break out the banjos, we got us a ho-down!

>>>> California dreaming...
>>>  Damn fine.
>>
>> I prefer the Beach Boys' version. This one has much thinner harmonies
>> and less tuneful backing...
> 
> Heretic, burn him.
> 

Yeah, the cover by The Bangles was so much better . . .
*ducks*

I know, I know, they covered Hazy Shade of Winter. Same band . . .
*ducks again*

>>>> (Save me)
>>>> Save me from the nothing I've become.
>>>  Not their best.
>>
>> Who is it?
>>
>> And why doesn't *my* electric guitar ever sound like this?
> 
> Evanescense; and post-processing dude, post-processing.
> 

You can do a lot it without post-processing. Guitar effect pedals are
everywhere, and if you don't like buying them just remember that the
guitar signal is AC and you can clip the waveform or otherwise distort it.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 2 Feb 2008 14:56:20
Message: <47a4cae4$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 04:09:25 -0500, Warp wrote:

>   I suppose it could be seen like that too.

<G>  Couldn't resist. ;-)

Jim


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 2 Feb 2008 15:10:57
Message: <47a4ce51$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:36:47 -0500, Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote:
> 
>> They used to show it at the midnight movies around here and had actors in the
aisles playing out some of the scenes and generally messing with the attendees.  If
you get a chance to, go check it out.
>> It's one of those things you have to experience.
> 
> If you like dressing up in corsets :)

Well, you don't have to wear a corset. There's just no point wearing
anything else without one, though.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 3 Feb 2008 06:18:18
Message: <j27bq3ppql46i6bfjml4d4u5mah1mj0590@4ax.com>
On 1 Feb 2008 19:28:32 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:


>>>I've heard a few like that, and I also quite like them.  It's always fun
>>>to see musicians (regardless of genre) who have *real* talent.
>> 
>> Agreed, be it rock, classical, folk or especially world music.
>
>Yep.  As I live next door to a place with (at last count) 3 garage bands 
>(one of the guys is a sound engineer, so he has all manner of "artists" 
>come in), and most of what we hear, well, let's just say that if we 
>called them "three-chord wonders", it'd be an insult to three-cord 
>wonders the world over.  One of the percussionists can't keep a steady 
>beat, even.

Arrg! Do you need help moving? I think that being on one of the feeder routes
for the Notting Hill Carnival is enough to make me leave the city for that
weekend :) Not that I don't like Reggie (Bob Marley excluded) and Soca but it's
all that electric stuff :(

>Personally, I'm a classical fan - mostly Romantic period, though I like a 
>fair amount of Baroque music as well.

The other way round for me, Baroque to Romantic. My wife likes Classical to
modern, there is a fair overlap. 

>Right now, I'm listening to the 1812 Overture.  I think it's the Telarc 
>Digital recording (but I could be wrong, I've got a couple recordings of 
>it).
>
>>>> Who recorded "In the hall of the mountain King"?
>>>

>I haven't seen the play myself; there is a recorded orchestral version 
>I've heard that has lyrics in German that I really like.  I may have to 
>dig that up now, in fact...Most of the recordings are just orchestral.
>

The play is a fantasy with music. It reminds me a bit of "The rakes progress"
and the "Tales of Hoffman", not musically of course :) I say it at the RNT in
about 2000.


>Have you ever listened to Joe Satriani?  The album _Surfing with the 
>Alien_ is particularly good - I like "Midnight" from that album - some 
>outstanding technical guitar playing in that track.

I'll keep anr eye open :)

>>>There's lyrics, too, which I
>>>didn't think I'd like, but it's very well done.
>>>
>> The mind boggles :)
>> Which reminds me of the catalogue aria from Don Giovanni. Have you heard
>> Girlie Girlie by Sophia George 1986?
>
>I haven't - sounds like it might be interesting, though.  Mozart is an 
>interesting composer - I especially like the Symphony k16a, at least 
>about the first 30 bars of the first movement.  I get an image of people 
>running through a forest (like a chase).

To hear it is to remember it :) There should be a mp3 on the internet and I
think that Mozart would only recognise the idea :)

Young man you too girlie girlie
you just a flash it round the worldie.

Him have one up here
one down there
One in Hanover
one down a vere.
One she's a lawyer
one she's a doctor

It goes on a bit :)

And since the world and his wife are doing it:

Listening to Mozart Variations on the piano by someone. 

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 3 Feb 2008 06:21:58
Message: <ds8bq3lpt1ns73a4ag4ntptdp8t0au4uap@4ax.com>
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:11:00 -0500, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at vtSPAM.edu"> wrote:

>
>Well, you don't have to wear a corset. 

My days for wearing corsets are long gone :) 

> There's just no point wearing anything else without one, though.

Hm! 
Don't excite the boy! :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 3 Feb 2008 13:45:02
Message: <47a60bae$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:18:17 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>Yep.  As I live next door to a place with (at last count) 3 garage bands
>>(one of the guys is a sound engineer, so he has all manner of "artists"
>>come in), and most of what we hear, well, let's just say that if we
>>called them "three-chord wonders", it'd be an insult to three-cord
>>wonders the world over.  One of the percussionists can't keep a steady
>>beat, even.
> 
> Arrg! Do you need help moving? I think that being on one of the feeder
> routes for the Notting Hill Carnival is enough to make me leave the city
> for that weekend :) Not that I don't like Reggie (Bob Marley excluded)
> and Soca but it's all that electric stuff :(

Well, we've been here for 7 years now, as have they.  But the owner of 
the house passed away in August and I understand his wife wants to sell 
the property; as the bands are all renters, we can but hope.  There is a 
joke going around the neighborhood (I know, I started it) suggesting that 
the neighborhood pool their money and buy it, level the house, and make a 
park out of it. :-)

>>Personally, I'm a classical fan - mostly Romantic period, though I like
>>a fair amount of Baroque music as well.
> 
> The other way round for me, Baroque to Romantic. My wife likes Classical
> to modern, there is a fair overlap.

I used to surprise people by being very picky about the music I'd listen 
to, but then I'd throw in some Queen or Eagles, just to throw them (well 
not *just* to throw them, I happen to like those two bands as well).  Or 
Satriani.

>>I haven't seen the play myself; there is a recorded orchestral version
>>I've heard that has lyrics in German that I really like.  I may have to
>>dig that up now, in fact...Most of the recordings are just orchestral.
>>
> The play is a fantasy with music. It reminds me a bit of "The rakes
> progress" and the "Tales of Hoffman", not musically of course :) I say
> it at the RNT in about 2000.

That makes sense; I'll have to keep my eyes open for it showing up here.

> To hear it is to remember it :) There should be a mp3 on the internet
> and I think that Mozart would only recognise the idea :)

LOL

> Young man you too girlie girlie
> you just a flash it round the worldie.
> 
> Him have one up here
> one down there
> One in Hanover
> one down a vere.
> One she's a lawyer
> one she's a doctor
> 
> It goes on a bit :)

Looks like it could be, uh, interesting. ;-)

> And since the world and his wife are doing it:
> 
> Listening to Mozart Variations on the piano by someone.

Right now not listening to music from Fellowship of the Ring.  (Good 
modern film scores are something I really like, too).

Jim


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 04:06:28
Message: <op.t5zsxnh2c3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:55:18 -0000, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at  

vtSPAM.edu"> did spake, saying:

> Phil Cook wrote:
>> And lo on Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:40:32 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> 
did
>> spake, saying:
>>>>> Let's do the Time Warp again!
>>>>>
>>>>> [Oh you have GOT me to KIDDING me!!]
>>>>  Ah now it's one of only three musicals I can stand.
>>>
>>> ...??
>>
>> Bugsy Malone, Little Shop of Horrors, Rocky Horror.
>>
>> "You'll be a dentist, you have a talent for causing great PAIN"
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtMizMQ6oM
>
> Might I suggest you add "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" to that musicals
> list? In my list of musicals I would dress in drag to go see live,
> Hedwig ranks much higher then Rocky Horror.

It's popped up on my radar a couple of times, but I've never had the  

chance to see it.

>>>>> If it hadn't been for Cotton-Eye Joe
>>>>> I'd been married long time ago.
>>>>> Where did you come from, where did you go?
>>>>> Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?
>>>>>
>>>>> [Are you KIDDING me??!?!]
>>>>  Hey I've got that one too.
>>>
>>> Seriously. We've got all this country and folk music, and then THIS
>>> comes on... WHAT???
>>
>> Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-haaa!
>>
> Break out the banjos, we got us a ho-down!

You are now entering Deliverance country.

>>>>> California dreaming...
>>>>  Damn fine.
>>>
>>> I prefer the Beach Boys' version. This one has much thinner harmonie
s
>>> and less tuneful backing...
>>
>> Heretic, burn him.
>>
>
> Yeah, the cover by The Bangles was so much better . . .
> *ducks*

Plenty of kindling to go around you know :-)

> I know, I know, they covered Hazy Shade of Winter. Same band . . .
> *ducks again*
>
>>>>> (Save me)
>>>>> Save me from the nothing I've become.
>>>>  Not their best.
>>>
>>> Who is it?
>>>
>>> And why doesn't *my* electric guitar ever sound like this?
>>
>> Evanescense; and post-processing dude, post-processing.
>
> You can do a lot it without post-processing. Guitar effect pedals are
> everywhere, and if you don't like buying them just remember that the
> guitar signal is AC and you can clip the waveform or otherwise distort
  

> it.

Yeah, but if it comes down to doing it yourself or letting some guy in a
  

studio do it...

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 04:07:35
Message: <op.t5zszjqkc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:46:30 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

>>> The moon upon the ocean
>>> Is swept around in motion,
>>> But without ever knowing
>>> The reason for its flowing.
>>  Enya, can't...recall...the...title despite being able to bloody sing  
>> it; argh!
>
>  >:-D
>
> I'm Going To Drive You Mad. ;-)

Anywhere Is. In the car on the way home Friday.

>>> This could lead to excellence,
>>> Or serious injury.
>>> Only one way to know:
>>> Go, go, go.
>>  That's familiar... nope can't place it.
>
> Really? I would have thought you'd get that one...

If I heard it perhaps, but nope.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 12:05:13
Message: <i5heq31vrjnl6qi4at0sl12aji8qo84ns2@4ax.com>
On 3 Feb 2008 13:45:02 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>There is a 
>joke going around the neighborhood (I know, I started it) suggesting that 
>the neighborhood pool their money and buy it, level the house, and make a 
>park out of it. :-)

Rumour Control :)


>I used to surprise people by being very picky about the music I'd listen 
>to, but then I'd throw in some Queen or Eagles, just to throw them (well 
>not *just* to throw them, I happen to like those two bands as well).  Or 
>Satriani.
>

Me too, steel bands, bagpipes and banjos :)

>>>I haven't seen the play myself; there is a recorded orchestral version
>>>I've heard that has lyrics in German that I really like.  I may have to
>>>dig that up now, in fact...Most of the recordings are just orchestral.
>>>
>> The play is a fantasy with music. It reminds me a bit of "The rakes
>> progress" and the "Tales of Hoffman", not musically of course :) I say
>> it at the RNT in about 2000.
>
>That makes sense; I'll have to keep my eyes open for it showing up here.
>

Ibsen, is worthy :)

>> It goes on a bit :)
>
>Looks like it could be, uh, interesting. ;-)
>

I like it, I can even understand it :)
>
>Right now not listening to music from Fellowship of the Ring.  (Good 
>modern film scores are something I really like, too).

LOL
Listening to a very loud laptop fan :(

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 12:57:35
Message: <47a7520f$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:05:11 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 3 Feb 2008 13:45:02 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>There is a
>>joke going around the neighborhood (I know, I started it) suggesting
>>that the neighborhood pool their money and buy it, level the house, and
>>make a park out of it. :-)
> 
> Rumour Control :)

Absolutely. :-)

>>I used to surprise people by being very picky about the music I'd listen
>>to, but then I'd throw in some Queen or Eagles, just to throw them (well
>>not *just* to throw them, I happen to like those two bands as well).  Or
>>Satriani.
>>
>>
> Me too, steel bands, bagpipes and banjos :)

That's one of the reasons I like Journey of the Sorcerer so well - the 
banjo.  (Douglas Adams spec'ed the theme as "something spacy/electronic 
sounding, but it must have a banjo").

>>Right now not listening to music from Fellowship of the Ring.  (Good
>>modern film scores are something I really like, too).
> 
> LOL
> Listening to a very loud laptop fan :(

That doesn't sound anywhere near as good. :-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 13:59:40
Message: <41oeq3l6lc0qok1q698ubsbcoouh8icmss@4ax.com>
On 4 Feb 2008 12:57:35 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>That's one of the reasons I like Journey of the Sorcerer so well - the 
>banjo.  (Douglas Adams spec'ed the theme as "something spacy/electronic 
>sounding, but it must have a banjo").

Do you know how old you are making me feel? :)


>>>Right now not listening to music from Fellowship of the Ring.  (Good
>>>modern film scores are something I really like, too).
>> 
>> LOL
>> Listening to a very loud laptop fan :(
>
>That doesn't sound anywhere near as good. :-)

I can surf but not concentrate, it is so penetrating. Not much Poving till I get
a new one. :(


Regards
	Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 15:06:32
Message: <47a77048$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:59:39 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 4 Feb 2008 12:57:35 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>>That's one of the reasons I like Journey of the Sorcerer so well - the
>>banjo.  (Douglas Adams spec'ed the theme as "something spacy/electronic
>>sounding, but it must have a banjo").
> 
> Do you know how old you are making me feel? :)

About as old as I feel? ;-)

>>>>Right now not listening to music from Fellowship of the Ring.  (Good
>>>>modern film scores are something I really like, too).
>>> 
>>> LOL
>>> Listening to a very loud laptop fan :(
>>
>>That doesn't sound anywhere near as good. :-)
> 
> I can surf but not concentrate, it is so penetrating. Not much Poving
> till I get a new one. :(

That would make things difficult, yes...

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 15:24:56
Message: <b4teq3hil7nk52pfimkueccq424pkudu0v@4ax.com>
On 4 Feb 2008 15:06:32 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> Do you know how old you are making me feel? :)
>
>About as old as I feel? ;-)

LOL

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 15:35:29
Message: <47a77711$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:24:54 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 4 Feb 2008 15:06:32 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> Do you know how old you are making me feel?
>>
>>About as old as I feel? ;-)
> 
> LOL

Fair *is* fair. ;-)

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 16:52:22
Message: <47a78916@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:

> Anywhere Is. In the car on the way home Friday.

Hehe. You're fast...

> If I heard it perhaps, but nope.

...or not...

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 4 Feb 2008 21:33:22
Message: <47a7caf2$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible a écrit :
>>> <= I wasn't good enough for her. :-(
>>
>> Oh, why d'you have to go and make things so complicated?
> 
> I have a horrible feeling I'm missing something highly significant here...
> 

That's from Advil Latrine's first single.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 5 Feb 2008 05:45:35
Message: <khfgq31g6691an83dgo57ieva8slf8r3pn@4ax.com>
On 4 Feb 2008 15:35:29 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:24:54 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 4 Feb 2008 15:06:32 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Do you know how old you are making me feel?
>>>
>>>About as old as I feel? ;-)
>> 
>> LOL
>
>Fair *is* fair. ;-)
>

That's been annoying me for a day, it sounds like a quote I should know.

Close but no cigar :)
"Fair is foul, and foul is fair:
Hover through the fog and filthy air"

Hmm! A topic for TC-RTC, me thinks :)



Regards
	Stephen


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 5 Feb 2008 07:49:52
Message: <47a85b70$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> (Benny's car stereo is somehow able to decode MPEG-1 layer-3 digital 
> audio from yellow-book CDs. Yes, yellow-book, but red-book. As a result, 
> 1 CD plays for about 13 hours. And the trebble is sufficiently chewed up 
> to annoy me. Apparently the difference is inaudible to everyone else...)

These have been out for years. They're standard equipment on some cars, 
now. My Honda came from the factory with a stereo able to play MP3's.

Capacity seems to be about 13-15 albums if you compress at 128K :D


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 5 Feb 2008 07:53:22
Message: <47a85c42$1@news.povray.org>
>> (Benny's car stereo is somehow able to decode MPEG-1 layer-3 digital 
>> audio from yellow-book CDs. Yes, yellow-book, but red-book. As a 
>> result, 1 CD plays for about 13 hours. And the trebble is sufficiently 
>> chewed up to annoy me. Apparently the difference is inaudible to 
>> everyone else...)
> 
> These have been out for years. They're standard equipment on some cars, 
> now. My Honda came from the factory with a stereo able to play MP3's.

Really? That's interesting...

Benny's car is a Skoda. I find it amusing that owning a Skoda used to be 
considered the ultimate insult, yet today Skodas are actually quite 
good. (A fact that their advertising seems to deliberately play on...)

> Capacity seems to be about 13-15 albums if you compress at 128K :D

I'd probably compress at a higher bitrate, and dream about being able to 
use Vorbis instead, but hey, I'm weird...

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 5 Feb 2008 12:43:45
Message: <47a8a051$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:45:33 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> That's been annoying me for a day, it sounds like a quote I should know.
> 
> Close but no cigar
> "Fair is foul, and foul is fair:
> Hover through the fog and filthy air"
> 
> Hmm! A topic for TC-RTC, me thinks

LOL, I wasn't quoting anything, but it probably isn't the first time it's 
been said. :-)

Jim


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 03:11:18
Message: <47a96ba6$1@news.povray.org>
> (Benny's car stereo is somehow able to decode MPEG-1 layer-3 digital audio 
> from yellow-book CDs. Yes, yellow-book, but red-book. As a result, 1 CD 
> plays for about 13 hours. And the trebble is sufficiently chewed up to 
> annoy me. Apparently the difference is inaudible to everyone else...)

Best invention ever - I would never get a car that wasn't capable of playing 
MP3s now.  Most new cars have some option for getting MP3s in to it, either 
through the CD player, USB socket or memory card socket.  Car designers 
realise that everyone has portable music players and MP3s now...

Some cars even play video DVDs you know!


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 05:14:46
Message: <47a98896$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> Best invention ever - I would never get a car that wasn't capable of 
> playing MP3s now.  Most new cars have some option for getting MP3s in to 
> it, either through the CD player, USB socket or memory card socket.  Car 
> designers realise that everyone has portable music players and MP3s now...

Hmm, I must be living in a different world or something...

In the world where I live, people buy second hard cards that are about 
20 years old. And even that is cripplingly expensive. When I was a kid, 
my family went through old wrecks at a prodigious rate. Nobody in my 
family has ever owned a "new" car. They're just too expensive.

And then, about 4 years ago, I purchased the newest car that anybody I 
know has ever had. It was 3 years old. It's so new, in fact, that it has 
*metalic* paint. And electric windows. And power steering. And ABS. It 
even has *air bags*.

As far as music goes, most cars come with an AM radio. With mechanical 
tuning buttons. (You know, "radio buttons"?) If you're lucky they have 
FM as well. And if it's a really expensive car, there might be a tape 
deck. My current car is unique in that it can play *CDs*. In fact, it 
has a *six* disk changer in the boot. Advanced!

Sure, I know there are absurdly rich people who can afford expensive 
shiny cars that have all sorts of electronic gizmos in them. But 
seriously, normal people don't have that kind of money...

> Some cars even play video DVDs you know!

Ooo, so that's why so many people die on the roads? :-D

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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 05:31:27
Message: <47a98c7f@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> Best invention ever - I would never get a car that wasn't capable of 
> playing MP3s now.  Most new cars have some option for getting MP3s in to 
> it, either through the CD player, USB socket or memory card socket.  Car 
> designers realise that everyone has portable music players and MP3s now...

My car's 17 years old. I use one of those cassette adaptors and the MP3 
player in my phone. Works a treat. :)

> Some cars even play video DVDs you know!

In the back, for the kids, fine. However, I've recently been horrified 
to see that front-seat players, apparently aimed at drivers, are 
becoming common. What next? A button to randomly switch which direction 
the steering wheel turns the car, just for a laugh?


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 05:37:57
Message: <47a98e05$1@news.povray.org>
> As far as music goes, most cars come with an AM radio. With mechanical 
> tuning buttons.

I have not seen a car with mechanical tuning buttons for ages.  Even my 
sisters 12 year old Clio has a radio with electronic buttons.  My first car, 
which must be 20 years old now if it was still alive, had manual tuning for 
AM and FM.  It cost me £50.

> (You know, "radio buttons"?) If you're lucky they have FM as well.

Find me a car radio that doesn't do FM.

> And if it's a really expensive car, there might be a tape deck. My current 
> car is unique in that it can play *CDs*. In fact, it has a *six* disk 
> changer in the boot. Advanced!

Dude, you are decades out of date.  Even my bottom-of-the-range Peugeot 206 
that cost around £3000 had a CD player and electric windows.  Even my £50 
first car which was bottom of the range 20 year old wreck 950cc had a tape 
player and FM radio.

> Sure, I know there are absurdly rich people who can afford expensive shiny 
> cars that have all sorts of electronic gizmos in them. But seriously, 
> normal people don't have that kind of money...

The other day I was given a small Ford while mine was being serviced - even 
that had a 3,5mm input socket for an MP3 player - plus an SD card slot at 
the side of the radio (which had a small colour screen and CD).  These are 
not expensive cars, these are cars that normal people buy.  Can you even buy 
a car with a tape deck anymore?

Try glancing inside some parked cars as you are walking around, you'll be 
suprised how many of them have electronic tuning with FM and CD players :-)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 05:44:05
Message: <47a98f75$1@news.povray.org>
>> Some cars even play video DVDs you know!
>
> In the back, for the kids, fine. However, I've recently been horrified to 
> see that front-seat players, apparently aimed at drivers, are becoming 
> common. What next? A button to randomly switch which direction the 
> steering wheel turns the car, just for a laugh?

In most places it's illegal to show video that the driver can see while the 
car is moving (and in some places it's even illegal to show any video in the 
front, even if the driver can't see it).  There is no way a car manufacturer 
would put any device like that in a car, however there is nothing to stop 
someone adding such a system afterwards.  Then it's just like using your 
phone or a laptop whilst driving, it's up to the police to enforce the 
illegal behaviour.

In Japan it's pretty common for drivers to watch TV while they are stopped 
in traffic.  As soon as the car begins to move the display switches to a 
map, or radio info or whatever.  This is built-in by the car manufacturers.


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 05:53:41
Message: <47a991b5$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> In most places it's illegal to show video that the driver can see while 
> the car is moving (and in some places it's even illegal to show any 
> video in the front, even if the driver can't see it).

Not sure how satnavs get past that but I guess it's not *technically* video.

 > There is no way a
> car manufacturer would put any device like that in a car, however there 
> is nothing to stop someone adding such a system afterwards.

Yes, I've mostly seen this on things like Halfords ads.

 > Then it's
> just like using your phone or a laptop whilst driving, it's up to the 
> police to enforce the illegal behaviour.

Good luck with that lads.

> In Japan it's pretty common for drivers to watch TV while they are 
> stopped in traffic.  As soon as the car begins to move the display 
> switches to a map, or radio info or whatever.  This is built-in by the 
> car manufacturers.

Yes obviously the idea of front-mounted players is to relieve monotony 
in slow traffic, but the potential for homicidal negligence is 
staggering. I like the Japanese solution though!


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 06:06:47
Message: <47a994c7$1@news.povray.org>
>> In most places it's illegal to show video that the driver can see while 
>> the car is moving (and in some places it's even illegal to show any video 
>> in the front, even if the driver can't see it).
>
> Not sure how satnavs get past that but I guess it's not *technically* 
> video.

Yeh, I'm not sure on the details.  I just know that the car manufacturers 
are having problems in some US states when they want to allow the front seat 
passenger to watch video (when the driver can't see it).  Apparently some 
states outlaw any video in the front, while others only outlaw it if the 
driver can see it.


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 06:13:13
Message: <op.t53nyyvcc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:14:45 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> scott wrote:
>
>> Best invention ever - I would never get a car that wasn't capable of  
>> playing MP3s now.  Most new cars have some option for getting MP3s in  
>> to it, either through the CD player, USB socket or memory card socket.   
>> Car designers realise that everyone has portable music players and MP3s  
>> now...
>
> Hmm, I must be living in a different world or something...

Ya think?

> In the world where I live, people buy second hard cards that are about  
> 20 years old. And even that is cripplingly expensive. When I was a kid,  
> my family went through old wrecks at a prodigious rate. Nobody in my  
> family has ever owned a "new" car. They're just too expensive.
>
> And then, about 4 years ago, I purchased the newest car that anybody I  
> know has ever had. It was 3 years old. It's so new, in fact, that it has  
> *metalic* paint.

To make it look all pretty.

> And electric windows.

Actually I don't like electric windows, the only advantage to them I see  
is when you're squashed up in a car you're not jammed up against the  
turning handle.

> And power steering.

Still amused my teeeny tiny car has power steering.

> And ABS. It  even has *air bags*.

Woah advanced stuff indeed :-P

> As far as music goes, most cars come with an AM radio. With mechanical  
> tuning buttons. (You know, "radio buttons"?) If you're lucky they have  
> FM as well.

Um as Scott points out I've never seen a car-radio without an FM button .

> And if it's a really expensive car, there might be a tape deck.

No if it's a normal car it'll have a CD player, though mine has a tape  
deck which doesn't bother me as I rarely play music when driving (except  
when trying to remember the name of an Enya song).

> My current car is unique in that it can play *CDs*. In fact, it has a  
> *six* disk changer in the boot. Advanced!

Meh takes up boot space.

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 06:41:41
Message: <47a99cf5@news.povray.org>
Bill Pragnell wrote:

> My car's 17 years old. I use one of those cassette adaptors and the MP3 
> player in my phone. Works a treat. :)

I've tried that, but the sound quality tends to be really, *really* low. 
(Or maybe the adaptor I used was just cheap, I'm not sure.)

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 06:45:33
Message: <47a99ddd@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> As far as music goes, most cars come with an AM radio. With mechanical 
>> tuning buttons.
> 
> I have not seen a car with mechanical tuning buttons for ages.  Even my 
> sisters 12 year old Clio has a radio with electronic buttons.  My first 
> car, which must be 20 years old now if it was still alive, had manual 
> tuning for AM and FM.  It cost me £50.

My first car [which cost me several hundred pounds] as an ancient Ford 
Siesta. The clock had been back to zero twice. Changing gear required 
using your right foot to force the gear to enguage. The brakes... well I 
*think* they were hydrolic, just very unresponsive. (!)

Similar things can be said about just above every car my family has ever 
owned. They're all old wrecks. What can I say? Cars are expensive.

>> (You know, "radio buttons"?) If you're lucky they have FM as well.
> 
> Find me a car radio that doesn't do FM.

They were common when I was a child. I would think now there can't be 
*that* many of them left. (I hope...?)

> Dude, you are decades out of date.

No, all the cars I've come across are decades old. ;-)

Sure, *new* cars probably do have a whole load of good stuff in them. 
But who can afford to buy cars new? That's why the second-hand car 
market exists...

>> Sure, I know there are absurdly rich people who can afford expensive 
>> shiny cars that have all sorts of electronic gizmos in them. But 
>> seriously, normal people don't have that kind of money...
> 
> The other day I was given a small Ford while mine was being serviced - 
> even that had a 3,5mm input socket for an MP3 player - plus an SD card 
> slot at the side of the radio (which had a small colour screen and CD).  
> These are not expensive cars, these are cars that normal people buy.  
> Can you even buy a car with a tape deck anymore?

Well I imagine they give you nice cars while yours is being serviced. 
That way they can say "hey, that car was nice, wasn't it? Would you like 
to buy one, sir?" ;-)

I hired a car once - I forget why - and it didn't have an ignition key. 
Go figure. (Was really horrible to drive though... I think it was an 
Astra? Might be wrong.)

I very much doubt many people can afford to buy one of these things new 
though...

> Try glancing inside some parked cars as you are walking around, you'll 
> be suprised how many of them have electronic tuning with FM and CD 
> players :-)

Or rather, how many people are richer than me?

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Music selection
Date: 6 Feb 2008 06:46:32
Message: <47a99e18@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:

>> And electric windows.
> 
> Actually I don't like electric windows, the only advantage to them I see 
> is when you're squashed up in a car you're not jammed up against the 
> turning handle.

What, you mean apart from the fact that you can now open and close the 
windows while the car is moving?

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