Has anybody here played either Far Cry or Crysis?

Are they any good? Would you recommend them? Do you need a small Cray to 
play them?

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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote

> Are they any good? Would you recommend them? Do you need a small Cray to
> play them?

Don't know for FarCry, but I think for Crysis, you may need a *big* Cray.
Just out of curiosity, I googled for a demo: 1.7GB!?! Have people gone
totally nuts?

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Invisible wrote:
> Has anybody here played either Far Cry or Crysis?
> 
> Are they any good? Would you recommend them? Do you need a small Cray to 
> play them?
> 

I've played Far Cry; it's fun, but *extremely* difficult.  Especially 
considering they don't let you save anywhere by default (you have to 
hack it to let you).

I tried the demo for Crysis, but a large portion of the game utilizes 
the middle mouse button.  Not the wheel; you have to press the button 
and drag.  Unfortunately, my mouse didn't work with that, so I was 
unable to perform those actions >95% of the time.  And there's no way to 
remap it (that I could find).

Add to that the fact that I had the graphics settings rather low, and it 
still ran like a snail, and a review I read recently which stated that 
some of the later levels run only 1/4 the speed of the earlier ones, and 
you start to realize just how much you need that Cray...

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Chambers wrote:

> Add to that the fact that I had the graphics settings rather low, and it 
> still ran like a snail, and a review I read recently which stated that 
> some of the later levels run only 1/4 the speed of the earlier ones, and 
> you start to realize just how much you need that Cray...

http://www.bash.org/?835178   So it's true then?

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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:25:20 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

I have played Far Cry.  It was/is worthy of a replay or two.

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> Chambers wrote:
>
>> Add to that the fact that I had the graphics settings rather low, and it 
>> still ran like a snail, and a review I read recently which stated that 
>> some of the later levels run only 1/4 the speed of the earlier ones, and 
>> you start to realize just how much you need that Cray...
>
> http://www.bash.org/?835178   So it's true then?

     Yes, but only if you try to run it on medium to high settings on a mid 
spec machine (like mine), It'll drag then, but on low settings it's fine, 
and looks pretty good too.

      FarCry, Crysis - great games!  :)

         ~Steve~



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>> http://www.bash.org/?835178   So it's true then?
> 
>      Yes, but only if you try to run it on medium to high settings on a mid 
> spec machine (like mine), It'll drag then, but on low settings it's fine, 
> and looks pretty good too.
> 
>       FarCry, Crysis - great games!  :)

I only have a lowly 2.2 GHz dual-core AMD Athlon X2 4200+ with 3 GB 
DDR-400 RAM and an nVidia GeForce 7900GTX 512 MB. It'll probably not run 
at all...

BTW, I'm a little confused here. Benny seems to think that DirectX 10 is 
available for WinXP, while I was under the impression that it's for 
Vista only. [Part of of the M$ plan to force everybody to upgrade.] 
However, Wikipedia at least seems to suggest that Crysis works on XP, 
despite using DirectX 10... so... er... wuh?

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>>> http://www.bash.org/?835178   So it's true then?
>>
>>      Yes, but only if you try to run it on medium to high settings on a 
>> mid spec machine (like mine), It'll drag then, but on low settings it's 
>> fine, and looks pretty good too.
>>
>>       FarCry, Crysis - great games!  :)
>
> I only have a lowly 2.2 GHz dual-core AMD Athlon X2 4200+ with 3 GB 
> DDR-400 RAM and an nVidia GeForce 7900GTX 512 MB. It'll probably not run 
> at all...

   I wish I had that! :( It'll probably run fine on high with those specs, 
and if it doesn't, medium settings will probably get you 35-45 FPS, which is 
damn fast.

    Here's my system:

    XP Home SP2
     AMD Sempron Processor 2800+
     nVidia 6600 GT
     1 Gig RAM

      I've been playing Crysis this morning, it really is good.  :)


> BTW, I'm a little confused here. Benny seems to think that DirectX 10 is 
> available for WinXP, while I was under the impression that it's for Vista 
> only. [Part of of the M$ plan to force everybody to upgrade.] However, 
> Wikipedia at least seems to suggest that Crysis works on XP, despite using 
> DirectX 10... so... er... wuh?

    No, DX10 isn't available for XP. What happened was one guy managed to 
simply edit a config file so that XP DX9 gives the same 'very high' settings 
as DX10. I tried it. Now, that nearly killed my machine! Easy enough to swap 
back though, which I did.

    If you get Crysis, and want to tweak the config file yourself, here it 
is:

   
http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=16487&threadview=0&hilight=+hp+&hilightuser=0&page=1

     ~Steve~


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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> BTW, I'm a little confused here. Benny seems to think that DirectX 10 is 
> available for WinXP, while I was under the impression that it's for 
> Vista only. [Part of of the M$ plan to force everybody to upgrade.] 

  DirectX 10 is Vista only because it's a complete rewrite of the entire
system and depends on the complete rewrite of certain parts of the OS
they did for Vista. It just can't work in XP because XP doesn't have
the architecture necessary to run DX10.

> However, Wikipedia at least seems to suggest that Crysis works on XP, 
> despite using DirectX 10... so... er... wuh?

  Crysis *can* use DX10, but it can also be run on DX9, without the
DX10-specific features (although, as has been demonstrated, many of
the alleged "DX10-specific" features used by the game are actually
supported by DX9 after all).

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Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> BTW, I'm a little confused here. Benny seems to think that DirectX 10 is 
>> available for WinXP, while I was under the impression that it's for 
>> Vista only. [Part of of the M$ plan to force everybody to upgrade.] 
> 
>   DirectX 10 is Vista only because it's a complete rewrite of the entire
> system and depends on the complete rewrite of certain parts of the OS
> they did for Vista. It just can't work in XP because XP doesn't have
> the architecture necessary to run DX10.

Right. That makes sense.

>> However, Wikipedia at least seems to suggest that Crysis works on XP, 
>> despite using DirectX 10... so... er... wuh?
> 
>   Crysis *can* use DX10, but it can also be run on DX9, without the
> DX10-specific features (although, as has been demonstrated, many of
> the alleged "DX10-specific" features used by the game are actually
> supported by DX9 after all).

...so what you're saying is, Crysis can use DirectX 9 or DirectX 10, 
whichever is available. (?)

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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Has anybody here played either Far Cry or Crysis?

Far cry was fun. Very difficult, but fun. My rather old machine handled it
just fine.

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> Warp wrote:
>>   Crysis *can* use DX10, but it can also be run on DX9, without the
>> DX10-specific features (although, as has been demonstrated, many of
>> the alleged "DX10-specific" features used by the game are actually
>> supported by DX9 after all).
>
> ...so what you're saying is, Crysis can use DirectX 9 or DirectX 10, 
> whichever is available. (?)

    Yep, that's it in one.

     ~Steve~


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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> ...so what you're saying is, Crysis can use DirectX 9 or DirectX 10, 
> whichever is available. (?)

  Yes. Why is that a surprise?

  Granted, I don't know many specifics about the DirectX API, but AFAIK
it has been designed to be quite flexible so that programs can actually
ask the API if some feature is supported (by hardware or at all) or not,
and act accordingly.

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>> ...so what you're saying is, Crysis can use DirectX 9 or DirectX 10, 
>> whichever is available. (?)
> 
>   Yes. Why is that a surprise?

No, I'm just checking I understand correctly.

(Obviously the "simplest" thing to do would be to assume one level of 
DirectX and fail if any other level is present. It also seems likely 
that it wouldn't be that hard to check and use until available features 
- I was just checking whether that is what they actually did.)

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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
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>
> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:47a2f38f$1@news.povray.org...
>> Has anybody here played either Far Cry or Crysis?
>
> Far cry was fun. Very difficult, but fun. My rather old machine handled it
> just fine.
>

And I thought you weren't into first person shooters!

Far Cry has excellent graphics considering when it came out and the systems 
it will run on. And quite difficult as well...

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Invisible wrote:
> Has anybody here played either Far Cry or Crysis?
> 
> Are they any good? Would you recommend them? Do you need a small Cray to 
> play them?

I tried the demo for Crysis on my few-months-old quad core 2, 3 GB RAM, 
GeForce 7350 LE...average FPS: around 1.  Maximum FPS: 4.  Can we say 
"if you want to play Crysis, get a decent graphics card"?

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> I tried the demo for Crysis on my few-months-old quad core 2, 3 GB RAM, 
> GeForce 7350 LE...average FPS: around 1.  Maximum FPS: 4.  Can we say 
> "if you want to play Crysis, get a decent graphics card"?

Wow. o_O

So I guess this is going to have to wait another 5 years or so until I 
upgrade mine...

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>> Far cry was fun. Very difficult, but fun. My rather old machine handled it
>> just fine.
>>
> 
> And I thought you weren't into first person shooters!
> 
> Far Cry has excellent graphics considering when it came out and the systems 
> it will run on. And quite difficult as well...

Hmm. Almost everybody has commented that "it's very hard". Given that I 
*still* haven't completed HL2:EP2 yet because it's too hard, perhaps 
getting this game would just be a waste of time...

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>
> And I thought you weren't into first person shooters!

I'm not often. I sometimes use them to blow off stream (metaphorically, of
course)

I found a second hand copy at a computer shop in Randburg. R60. For that...

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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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>> I tried the demo for Crysis on my few-months-old quad core 2, 3 GB RAM, 
>> GeForce 7350 LE...average FPS: around 1.  Maximum FPS: 4.  Can we say "if 
>> you want to play Crysis, get a decent graphics card"?
>
> Wow. o_O
>
> So I guess this is going to have to wait another 5 years or so until I 
> upgrade mine...

    <sigh>

     Just download the demo and try it - it's free. The demo is the first 
mission, it's good, and if you can run that, you can run the rest with your 
system.

     Last word on this.

      ~Steve~



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> Invisible wrote:
>> Has anybody here played either Far Cry or Crysis?
>>
>> Are they any good? Would you recommend them? Do you need a small Cray to 
>> play them?
>
> I tried the demo for Crysis on my few-months-old quad core 2, 3 GB RAM, 
> GeForce 7350 LE...average FPS: around 1.  Maximum FPS: 4.  Can we say "if 
> you want to play Crysis, get a decent graphics card"?

     So my GC is better than yours when you're on a much better system than 
I have?

       I don't get it. :(

       ~Steve~





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> "Tim Cook" <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
> news:47a35318$1@news.povray.org...
>> Invisible wrote:
>>> Has anybody here played either Far Cry or Crysis?
>>>
>>> Are they any good? Would you recommend them? Do you need a small Cray to 
>>> play them?
>> I tried the demo for Crysis on my few-months-old quad core 2, 3 GB RAM, 
>> GeForce 7350 LE...average FPS: around 1.  Maximum FPS: 4.  Can we say "if 
>> you want to play Crysis, get a decent graphics card"?
> 
>      So my GC is better than yours when you're on a much better system than 
> I have?

Who has Vista and who has XP? :)

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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Who has Vista and who has XP? :)

Well, I have Vista, but the graphics cards on prebuilt systems (HP 
Pavilion) are usually low-end even if everything else is 
top-of-the-line.  'Course, this comp. also came with a video capture 
card, and that works fine...actually there aren't many things that 
really need good graphics cards.  I don't use Aero, so it's even less of 
an issue.

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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:08:31 -0500, Tim Cook wrote:

> Well, I have Vista, but the graphics cards on prebuilt systems (HP
> Pavilion) are usually low-end even if everything else is
> top-of-the-line.

Hmmm, the Pavilion I have has a 6150LE in it; I don't know if that's high-
end or not; the system came with Vista Home on it (ugh), but I didn't try 
any of the Aero effects out.  With OpenSUSE 10.3, though, I get excellent 
performance out of the card for XGL effects as well as regular OpenGL 
programs.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:

> Hmmm, the Pavilion I have has a 6150LE in it; I don't know if that's high-
> end or not.

6xxx -> GeForce 6 series. (Current = 8 series.)

x150 -> low number -> low-end. (Compared to other 6 series models. Can't 
easily compare between different series.)

LE -> Light Edition -> lower-end.

(OTOH, endings like GT or GTX mean "suped up".)

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> Well, I have Vista, but the graphics cards on prebuilt systems (HP 
> Pavilion) are usually low-end even if everything else is 
> top-of-the-line.

Interesting. The new Dell laptops we have at work come with... an nVidia 
Quadro graphics card. (Yes, those are the ones that cost £2k each.) Hmm...

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Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I *still* haven't completed HL2:EP2 yet because it's too hard

  It's not that hard. Destroy the hunters, then the strider, save.
Go to the next strider and repeat. If you die, continue from the savepoint.
Repeat until you have killed them all. (You should keep a "backup" save
of the the beginning of the situation just in case you save in the wrong
place and can't continue from there.)

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>> I *still* haven't completed HL2:EP2 yet because it's too hard
> 
>   It's not that hard. Destroy the hunters, then the strider, save.
> Go to the next strider and repeat.

It's the "destroy the hunters" part that I can't pull off. They're 
almost indestructible. I mean, I managed to kill one of them, but now I 
have almost no ammo left at all. I used all of it to kill just one hunter!

> If you die, continue from the savepoint.
> Repeat until you have killed them all. (You should keep a "backup" save
> of the the beginning of the situation just in case you save in the wrong
> place and can't continue from there.)

That's all good advice... If only I always followed it! :-S

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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>>> I *still* haven't completed HL2:EP2 yet because it's too hard
>>
>>   It's not that hard. Destroy the hunters, then the strider, save.
>> Go to the next strider and repeat.
> 
> It's the "destroy the hunters" part that I can't pull off. They're
> almost indestructible. I mean, I managed to kill one of them, but now I
> have almost no ammo left at all. I used all of it to kill just one hunter!
> 

After beating it, I learned that hunters have a vulnerability to
automobile tires moving at around 45mph / 72kph.

First time through, I spent all the shotgun ammo on the first few
hunters, then switched between the crossbow and any grenade/rocket on
hand. That took more saves and restarts then I care to admit.

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Sabrina Kilian wrote:

>> It's the "destroy the hunters" part that I can't pull off. They're
>> almost indestructible. I mean, I managed to kill one of them, but now I
>> have almost no ammo left at all. I used all of it to kill just one hunter!
>>
> 
> After beating it, I learned that hunters have a vulnerability to
> automobile tires moving at around 45mph / 72kph.

Yeah - good luck hitting them though. It's almost impossible to drive 
that vehicle! I mean, it's difficult to hit the *road*, never mind a 
bunch of nimble-footed metal cylopses...

> First time through, I spent all the shotgun ammo on the first few
> hunters, then switched between the crossbow and any grenade/rocket on
> hand. That took more saves and restarts then I care to admit.

I guess that's what it comes down to. The only way I'm going to complete 
this thing is by spending several very boring days playing and replaying 
the same 4 minutes of gameplay until I get lucky. *sigh*

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Orchid XP v7 escribió:
> I guess that's what it comes down to. The only way I'm going to complete 
> this thing is by spending several very boring days playing and replaying 
> the same 4 minutes of gameplay until I get lucky. *sigh*
> 

If you'll get bored, what's the point in playing? The idea of games is 
to have fun, isn't it?

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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:15:55 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, the Pavilion I have has a 6150LE in it; I don't know if that's
>> high- end or not.
> 
> 6xxx -> GeForce 6 series. (Current = 8 series.)
> 
> x150 -> low number -> low-end. (Compared to other 6 series models. Can't
> easily compare between different series.)
> 
> LE -> Light Edition -> lower-end.
> 
> (OTOH, endings like GT or GTX mean "suped up".)

Ah, OK - I knew there probably was a method to the scheme used for 
numbering.  So probably a bad idea to play with Aero on it.  Good thing I 
run Linux. :-)

Jim

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>> I guess that's what it comes down to. The only way I'm going to 
>> complete this thing is by spending several very boring days playing 
>> and replaying the same 4 minutes of gameplay until I get lucky. *sigh*
>>
> 
> If you'll get bored, what's the point in playing? The idea of games is 
> to have fun, isn't it?

Three guesses why I haven't done this part yet...

[I do, however, want to see how it ends.]

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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote:
> If you'll get bored, what's the point in playing?

  To see the end. (Which, in this case, is rather interesting.)

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In article <47a4c525$1@news.povray.org>, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at 
vtSPAM.edu"> says...
> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> >>> I *still* haven't completed HL2:EP2 yet because it's too hard
> >>
> >>   It's not that hard. Destroy the hunters, then the strider, save.
> >> Go to the next strider and repeat.
> > 
> > It's the "destroy the hunters" part that I can't pull off. They're
> > almost indestructible. I mean, I managed to kill one of them, but now I
> > have almost no ammo left at all. I used all of it to kill just one hunt
er!
> > 
> 
> After beating it, I learned that hunters have a vulnerability to
> automobile tires moving at around 45mph / 72kph.
> 
> First time through, I spent all the shotgun ammo on the first few
> hunters, then switched between the crossbow and any grenade/rocket on
> hand. That took more saves and restarts then I care to admit.
> 
Wait... The hunters in 2 don't have the vulnerability where you can 
shoot them in the back to kill them? Useful when you have sniper rifle. 
;) But seriously, at least in Halo 1, they have *no* armor at all in the 
lower back, where you can see a patch of orange, sort of V shaped. Mind 
you, haven't played 2, since a) I don't have an XBox and b) I don't have 
fracking Vista. :p

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Patrick Elliott wrote:
> In article <47a4c525$1@news.povray.org>, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at 
> vtSPAM.edu"> says...
>> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>>>>> I *still* haven't completed HL2:EP2 yet because it's too hard
>>>>   It's not that hard. Destroy the hunters, then the strider, save.
>>>> Go to the next strider and repeat.
>>> It's the "destroy the hunters" part that I can't pull off. They're
>>> almost indestructible. I mean, I managed to kill one of them, but now I
>>> have almost no ammo left at all. I used all of it to kill just one hunter!
>>>
>> After beating it, I learned that hunters have a vulnerability to
>> automobile tires moving at around 45mph / 72kph.
>>
>> First time through, I spent all the shotgun ammo on the first few
>> hunters, then switched between the crossbow and any grenade/rocket on
>> hand. That took more saves and restarts then I care to admit.
>>
> Wait... The hunters in 2 don't have the vulnerability where you can 
> shoot them in the back to kill them? Useful when you have sniper rifle. 
> ;) But seriously, at least in Halo 1, they have *no* armor at all in the 
> lower back, where you can see a patch of orange, sort of V shaped. Mind 
> you, haven't played 2, since a) I don't have an XBox and b) I don't have 
> fracking Vista. :p
> 

Half-life 2 != Halo 2.

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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> I guess that's what it comes down to. The only way I'm going to complete 
> this thing is by spending several very boring days playing and replaying 
> the same 4 minutes of gameplay until I get lucky. *sigh*

Isn't that what God mode is for? This *is* a PC you're talking about, right?

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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:40:37 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

> [I do, however, want to see how it ends.]

That's what cheat codes are for. ;-)

Jim

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Isn't that what God mode is for? This *is* a PC you're talking about, right?

  Cheating is for wimps. It's not honorable. :P

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:59:20 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Isn't that what God mode is for? This *is* a PC you're talking about,
>> right?
> 
>   Cheating is for wimps. It's not honorable. :P

Depends on what your goal is.  If the goal is to see the story, it's 
perfectly acceptable.  I suck at games that involve any sort of 
coordination (video or otherwise), but if I want to "read the story", the 
only way for me to do that is to put the game in God mode.

Jim

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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote

> Depends on what your goal is.  If the goal is to see the story, it's
> perfectly acceptable.  I suck at games that involve any sort of
> coordination (video or otherwise), but if I want to "read the story", the
> only way for me to do that is to put the game in God mode.

You might want to try books instead. Easier to read. Better stories.

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somebody escribió:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote
> 
>> Depends on what your goal is.  If the goal is to see the story, it's
>> perfectly acceptable.  I suck at games that involve any sort of
>> coordination (video or otherwise), but if I want to "read the story", the
>> only way for me to do that is to put the game in God mode.
> 
> You might want to try books instead. Easier to read. Better stories.

Or even movies.

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Isn't that what God mode is for? This *is* a PC you're talking about, right?
> 
>   Cheating is for wimps. It's not honorable. :P

While true, cheating at a solitary (single-player) game and admitting it 
doesn't seem to have any dishonor to me. Now, if you bragged you beat it 
and didn't mention you cheated, that's different.

Is God mode more or less cheating than asking people online how to get 
past the problem area? :-)

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     On what day did God create the body thetans?

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somebody wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote
> 
>> Depends on what your goal is.  If the goal is to see the story, it's
>> perfectly acceptable.  I suck at games that involve any sort of
>> coordination (video or otherwise), but if I want to "read the story", the
>> only way for me to do that is to put the game in God mode.
> 
> You might want to try books instead. Easier to read. Better stories.

Having read the first Myst novel, I'm willing to assert the game was 
better. ;-)

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     On what day did God create the body thetans?

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Darren New wrote:

> Is God mode more or less cheating than asking people online how to get 
> past the problem area? :-)

Hmm.... IDKFA.

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:28:32 -0700, somebody wrote:

> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote
> 
>> Depends on what your goal is.  If the goal is to see the story, it's
>> perfectly acceptable.  I suck at games that involve any sort of
>> coordination (video or otherwise), but if I want to "read the story",
>> the only way for me to do that is to put the game in God mode.
> 
> You might want to try books instead. Easier to read. Better stories.

Thanks; I do read, but I also like other forms of entertainment as well.  
I don't need to be lectured by someone who doesn't know me about what is 
and isn't entertaining.

Jim

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somebody wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote
> 
>> Depends on what your goal is.  If the goal is to see the story, it's
>> perfectly acceptable.  I suck at games that involve any sort of
>> coordination (video or otherwise), but if I want to "read the story", the
>> only way for me to do that is to put the game in God mode.
> 
> You might want to try books instead. Easier to read. Better stories.

So we're supposed to be excluded from an entire medium of story telling, 
just because we're not l337 hax0r 13yo's, but instead we have real jobs 
(not to mention, other hobbies)?

There's nothing wrong with wanting to play through a game for fun, 
rather than for bragging rights (haha, I beat Doom 14 on "Final 
Nightmare Elite" mode in 31 hours, w/o taking a potty break!).  After 
all, it IS a "game".

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...Ben Chambers
ben at pacific web guy dot com (no spaces)
www.pacificwebguy.com

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Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>> Isn't that what God mode is for? This *is* a PC you're talking about, 
>>> right?
>>
>>   Cheating is for wimps. It's not honorable. :P
> 
> While true, cheating at a solitary (single-player) game and admitting it 
> doesn't seem to have any dishonor to me. Now, if you bragged you beat it 
> and didn't mention you cheated, that's different.
> 
> Is God mode more or less cheating than asking people online how to get 
> past the problem area? :-)

http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm

If the game lets you do it, it's not really cheating :)

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ben at pacific web guy dot com (no spaces)
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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:47a426c3$1@news.povray.org...
>> Well, I have Vista, but the graphics cards on prebuilt systems (HP 
>> Pavilion) are usually low-end even if everything else is top-of-the-line.
>
> Interesting. The new Dell laptops we have at work come with... an nVidia 
> Quadro graphics card. (Yes, those are the ones that cost £2k each.) Hmm...

     I'll do you a swap with my card... Your company won't notice the 
difference... ;)

       ~Steve~


>
> -- 
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>> Wait... The hunters in 2 don't have the vulnerability where you can 
>> shoot them in the back to kill them? Useful when you have sniper rifle. 
>> ;) But seriously, at least in Halo 1, they have *no* armor at all in the 
>> lower back, where you can see a patch of orange, sort of V shaped. Mind 
>> you, haven't played 2, since a) I don't have an XBox and b) I don't have 
>> fracking Vista. :p
> 
> Half-life 2 != Halo 2.

Heh. I was confused for a minute there...

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