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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 30 Jan 2008 14:06:58
Message: <47a0cad2$1@news.povray.org>
I've noticed a pattern on these groups of late. Andrew posts something, 
Warp pounces. Usually pointing out what Andrew doesn't know.

Has someone painted a big red target on Andrew's back?

I have to admit, I knew who Stallman was, but only vaguely. Since I 
don't really follow GNU or GPL software closely, it's not really 
something of extreme import.

I am interested in how the Wikipedia entry Andrew read conveyed that he 
was/is a psychopath and or sociopath.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 30 Jan 2008 14:21:41
Message: <47a0ce45@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> Has someone painted a big red target on Andrew's back?

himself?


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 30 Jan 2008 15:26:44
Message: <47a0dd84$1@news.povray.org>
>> Has someone painted a big red target on Andrew's back?
> 
> himself?

I'm beginning to wonder. It seems I even get flamed IRL...

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 30 Jan 2008 16:58:16
Message: <47A0F304.4010207@hotmail.com>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> I've noticed a pattern on these groups of late. Andrew posts something, 
> Warp pounces. 

Oh come on, it's not only Warp. We all like a bit of flame throwing now 
and then, I guess.

> Usually pointing out what Andrew doesn't know.

Only for things that are readily available in Wikipedia and those that 
are part of a standard education in this field.

> Has someone painted a big red target on Andrew's back?

I think it is more subtle than just undirected flame throwing. I am 
afraid this group has taken some sort of responsibility to educate our 
mascot to face real life. Ok, I haven't seen much progress...
Which reminds me, we haven't had a progress report on his love life for 
some time.

> I have to admit, I knew who Stallman was, but only vaguely. Since I 
> don't really follow GNU or GPL software closely, it's not really 
> something of extreme import.
> 
> I am interested in how the Wikipedia entry Andrew read conveyed that he 
> was/is a psychopath and or sociopath.

Because just like Andrew himself he knows about computers?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 00:44:22
Message: <47a16036$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> Only for things that are readily available in Wikipedia and those that 
> are part of a standard education in this field.

Actually, thinking about it, I expect it's because Andrew doesn't really 
interact with anyone else. I mean, why *would* you know who Stallman is 
if it never came up in a conversation? No more reason than to know where 
Brazil is if it never came up.  (I'm sure there are countries in Africa 
I don't know about that are newer than the last time I had a high-school 
geography class, for example.)

On the other hand, Andrew *does* talk with people here, and if he 
agressively persues the "I don't need to know that" idea, I'm not sure 
it's entirely isolation at fault.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     On what day did God create the body thetans?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 05:18:23
Message: <47a1a06f@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Has someone painted a big red target on Andrew's back?

  Himself.

  If you write somewhere *a lot*, then you are going to get noticed and
remembered. That's the problem with writing there a lot.

  The outcome of this depends on what you write. One problem with him
is that people in general are not all that interested in other people's
personal lives. A few interesting points can be interesting, but if you
use the forum as your personal blog, continuously writing about mundane
things about yourself and your life, people are going to get bored, if
not even annoyed. The more you continue doing this, the more the situation
will escalate. If you continue doing this even after someone politely
gives you a hint that this forum is not your personal blog, the situation
may escalate even further.

  Don't get me wrong. It's not like it's against some etiquette rules to
write about your life and personal experiences. Most people do that.
I do that. However, it's the *amount* of doing that that is relevant.
Don't overdo it. Don't consider a discussion forum to be your blog.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 05:25:18
Message: <7683q3tp0m2h17mbgnt6971a4ick65lvpl@4ax.com>
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:58:28 +0100, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

>
>I think it is more subtle than just undirected flame throwing. I am 
>afraid this group has taken some sort of responsibility to educate our 
>mascot to face real life. 

Out of a genuine desire to help, I'm sure. But maybe we are too voracious and
constantly bringing up his shortcoming is not the way to help. 

Do you take sugar, Invisible? :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 05:58:01
Message: <47a1a9b9$1@news.povray.org>
> Do you take sugar, Invisible? :)

Yes. Too much of it, in all likelihood.

I typically take 3-4 sugars in my tea, and I regularly eat large blocks 
of solid chocolate. When I was a child, I used to sneak downstairs early 
on a Sunday morning, grab a chair, reach up to the cupboard and take our 
the sugar bowl. I would then stand there and eat big crunchy mouthfuls 
of white sugar. I kept telling myself I'd stop after one more... but it 
was always to hard to stop! Sugar just tastes so sweet and sugary. And 
it has a cruncky texture, and it melts in your mouth, and...

...oh, wait, no more blog posts. :-S

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 06:05:02
Message: <47a1ab5e@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> > Do you take sugar, Invisible? :)

> Yes. Too much of it, in all likelihood.

  I suppose you know that too much sugar in a regular basis greatly
increases the risk of type 2 diabetes in the long run? (And of course
it greatly increases the risk of dental caries in the short run.)

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 06:06:56
Message: <7ra3q39n8cum2tqb2e4nfp8gugi76m067l@4ax.com>
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:58:01 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>> Do you take sugar, Invisible? :)
>
>Yes. Too much of it, in all likelihood.
>
>I typically take 3-4 sugars in my tea, and I regularly eat large blocks 
>of solid chocolate. When I was a child, I used to sneak downstairs early 
>on a Sunday morning, grab a chair, reach up to the cupboard and take our 
>the sugar bowl. I would then stand there and eat big crunchy mouthfuls 
>of white sugar. I kept telling myself I'd stop after one more... but it 
>was always to hard to stop! Sugar just tastes so sweet and sugary. And 
>it has a cruncky texture, and it melts in your mouth, and...
>
>...oh, wait, no more blog posts. :-S

LOL :)

When the kitchen was damp the sugar bowl would have a crust of hard sugar. Hmm!
:)


Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 06:08:49
Message: <jva3q3ti469s8jde3c68rorsc7chrbn1nq@4ax.com>
On 31 Jan 2008 06:05:02 -0500, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

>Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> > Do you take sugar, Invisible? :)
>
>> Yes. Too much of it, in all likelihood.
>
>  I suppose you know that too much sugar in a regular basis greatly
>increases the risk of type 2 diabetes in the long run? (And of course
>it greatly increases the risk of dental caries in the short run.)

Who doesn't? 
Quote from real life:
"When the sales drop, we put more sugar in"

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 06:11:41
Message: <47a1aced@news.povray.org>
>>> Do you take sugar, Invisible? :)
> 
>> Yes. Too much of it, in all likelihood.
> 
>   I suppose you know that too much sugar in a regular basis greatly
> increases the risk of type 2 diabetes in the long run? (And of course
> it greatly increases the risk of dental caries in the short run.)

I have 2 fillings so far. :-,

Hmm, I wonder how you tell if you have diabetes? Actually, wait - I'd 
probably feel *ill* if I had something that seriously wrong with me...

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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 06:20:01
Message: <web.47a1adfef611ad0dede11f720@news.povray.org>
Ah, that would explain your hyperactivity.
You are still having too much energy left from your childhood-sugar-eating-days.
:)

Regards
           bluetree


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 06:42:30
Message: <47a1b426$1@news.povray.org>
bluetree wrote:
> Ah, that would explain your hyperactivity.
> You are still having too much energy left from your childhood-sugar-eating-days.
> :)

I AM NOT HYPERACTIVE!!!!eleven!!

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 09:43:35
Message: <47a1de97$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Hmm, I wonder how you tell if you have diabetes? Actually, wait - I'd 
> probably feel *ill* if I had something that seriously wrong with me...

Eumm.. Diabetes is relatively asymptomatic in it's early stages, 
Generally people first find out when they get a physical and their blood 
test shows high blood glucose levels.

There are subtle signs: Extreme thirst, urination at night (waking to 
urinate) But, that's about it. You'll feel normal otherwise. Eventually, 
after many years, you'll have glaucoma, neuropathy, reduced circulation 
in the extremities.


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 09:47:07
Message: <47a1df6b@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Himself.

Yeah...

I've just noticed lately that it seems to have escalated, just as you said.

Of course, I also remember the constant repetition of "GIYF!" to him 
some time ago, too. I suppose people get tired of saying that constantly.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 09:54:53
Message: <47a1e13d$1@news.povray.org>
>> Hmm, I wonder how you tell if you have diabetes? Actually, wait - I'd 
>> probably feel *ill* if I had something that seriously wrong with me...
> 
> Eumm.. Diabetes is relatively asymptomatic in it's early stages, 
> Generally people first find out when they get a physical and their blood 
> test shows high blood glucose levels.
> 
> There are subtle signs: Extreme thirst, urination at night (waking to 
> urinate) But, that's about it. You'll feel normal otherwise. Eventually, 
> after many years, you'll have glaucoma, neuropathy, reduced circulation 
> in the extremities.

Random observation: Given any almost any disorder, if you list the 
symptoms it's almost always possible to think to yourself "yeah, I 
sometimes get that..." Weird, eh?

For example, right now I *am* quite thirsty, as it happens. But then, 
this is possibly related to the following:

1. I haven't had anything to drink for several hours.

2. The temparature here is higher than a typical English summer day. 
(27.4 °C at present.)

Similarly, I frequently have very cold hands. This is possibly related 
to me being a very tall skinny person who feels the cold a lot... Join 
enough dots up and you can almost convince yourself that you suffer from 
any disease known! :-.

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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 10:37:20
Message: <47a1eb30$1@news.povray.org>
"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
47a1df6b@news.povray.org...

> I've just noticed lately that it seems to have escalated, just as you 
> said.

It all started with his recent discovery of the catholicness of "some old 
bloke with a big hat in Romania". Then some people here had to correct his 
notion that large plantigrades only defecate in the central island of 
Swindon's magic roundabout, rather than in arboreal areas. Then Wikipedia 
told him how male and female sex organs are supposed to work together, which 
is somehow different from the way it's described in "Haskell Hardcore, 3rd 
edition". It went downhill (or escalated) after that ;D

G.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 10:55:42
Message: <47a1ef7e@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran wrote:
> "Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
> 47a1df6b@news.povray.org...
> 
>> I've just noticed lately that it seems to have escalated, just as you 
>> said.
> 
> It all started with his recent discovery of the catholicness of "some old 
> bloke with a big hat in Romania". Then some people here had to correct his 
> notion that large plantigrades only defecate in the central island of 
> Swindon's magic roundabout, rather than in arboreal areas. Then Wikipedia 
> told him how male and female sex organs are supposed to work together, which 
> is somehow different from the way it's described in "Haskell Hardcore, 3rd 
> edition". It went downhill (or escalated) after that ;D

LOL!


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 11:22:01
Message: <47a1f5a9$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:11:40 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> Hmm, I wonder how you tell if you have diabetes? Actually, wait - I'd
> probably feel *ill* if I had something that seriously wrong with me...

The way you tell is to be tested for it.  I'm sure a google search would 
turn up some information on early warning signs.

Jim


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 11:55:33
Message: <47a1fd85@news.povray.org>
Invisible escribió:
> Similarly, I frequently have very cold hands. This is possibly related 
> to me being a very tall skinny person who feels the cold a lot... Join 
> enough dots up and you can almost convince yourself that you suffer from 
> any disease known! :-.

I usually have very cold hands too. Too much typing? :)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 13:57:16
Message: <47a21a0c@news.povray.org>
"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:47a0cad2$1@news.povray.org...

> Has someone painted a big red target on Andrew's back?

      THWACK!  ;)

   ~Steve~ (the 'hood of povland)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 14:08:23
Message: <47a21ca7@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:47a1e13d$1@news.povray.org...

> 2. The temparature here is higher than a typical English summer day. (27.4 
> °C at present.)

    Eh?? In your room? Or outside today?

    It's flippin' cold here! And my windows are nearly blowing in! :(

      ~Steve~


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 16:16:45
Message: <47a23abd$1@news.povray.org>
>> 2. The temparature here is higher than a typical English summer day. (27.4 
>> °C at present.)
> 
>     Eh?? In your room? Or outside today?

According to the air temparature thermometer on my desk.

>     It's flippin' cold here! And my windows are nearly blowing in! :(

We have horizontal rain and hailstones...

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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 16:17:14
Message: <47a23ada$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Invisible escribió:
>> Similarly, I frequently have very cold hands. This is possibly related 
>> to me being a very tall skinny person who feels the cold a lot... Join 
>> enough dots up and you can almost convince yourself that you suffer 
>> from any disease known! :-.
> 
> I usually have very cold hands too. Too much typing? :)

I find my mouse hand is always significantly colder than my other hand.

Why has nobody invented the power-heated mouse yet??

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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 16:18:32
Message: <47a23b28$1@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran wrote:

> Then Wikipedia 
> told him how male and female sex organs are supposed to work together

They work together??

Oh, wait, the *organs* work together - it's their *owners* who argue a 
lot...

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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 16:44:48
Message: <47a24150$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 escribió:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> Invisible escribió:
>>> Similarly, I frequently have very cold hands. This is possibly 
>>> related to me being a very tall skinny person who feels the cold a 
>>> lot... Join enough dots up and you can almost convince yourself that 
>>> you suffer from any disease known! :-.
>>
>> I usually have very cold hands too. Too much typing? :)
> 
> I find my mouse hand is always significantly colder than my other hand.
> 
> Why has nobody invented the power-heated mouse yet??
> 

While you're at it, find me some feet-heaters...

Oh wait, I actually saw a USB feet heater... can't remember where though.


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 31 Jan 2008 16:47:57
Message: <47a2420d$1@news.povray.org>
>> Why has nobody invented the power-heated mouse yet??
>>
> 
> While you're at it, find me some feet-heaters...
> 
> Oh wait, I actually saw a USB feet heater... can't remember where though.

I saw a review of a USB tea warmer. It turns out it's a base with the 
USB wire connected across a thyristor. Thus it doesn't actually obey the 
USB specification. (You're supposed to send some protocol commands to 
*request* power before using it, which this obviously doesn't.)

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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 1 Feb 2008 01:26:47
Message: <47a2bba7$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 escribió:
>> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>>> Invisible escribió:
>>>> Similarly, I frequently have very cold hands. This is possibly
>>>> related to me being a very tall skinny person who feels the cold a
>>>> lot... Join enough dots up and you can almost convince yourself that
>>>> you suffer from any disease known! :-.
>>>
>>> I usually have very cold hands too. Too much typing? :)
>>
>> I find my mouse hand is always significantly colder than my other hand.
>>
>> Why has nobody invented the power-heated mouse yet??
>>
> 
> While you're at it, find me some feet-heaters...
> 
> Oh wait, I actually saw a USB feet heater... can't remember where though.

Move the case to the floor, rest feet on case. Instant feet warmer.


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 1 Feb 2008 06:40:20
Message: <op.t5uf2fnoc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:57:05 -0000, St. <dot### [at] dotcom> did spake,  
saying:

>
> "Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:47a0cad2$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> Has someone painted a big red target on Andrew's back?
>
>       THWACK!  ;)
>
>    ~Steve~ (the 'hood of povland)

De dum de diddly dum de der...

-- 
Phil Cook

--
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 1 Feb 2008 08:56:25
Message: <47a32509$1@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian escribió:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> While you're at it, find me some feet-heaters...
>>
>> Oh wait, I actually saw a USB feet heater... can't remember where though.
> 
> Move the case to the floor, rest feet on case. Instant feet warmer.

Now there's an idea. Although I have all cables tied up nicely in a way 
that makes it hard to move the case... :-\


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Andrew must have a target on his back.
Date: 1 Feb 2008 15:42:55
Message: <47a3844f$1@news.povray.org>
"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message 
news:op.t5uf2fnoc3xi7v@news.povray.org...
> And lo on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:57:05 -0000, St. <dot### [at] dotcom> did spake, 
> saying:
>
>>
>> "Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
>> news:47a0cad2$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>>> Has someone painted a big red target on Andrew's back?
>>
>>       THWACK!  ;)
>>
>>    ~Steve~ (the 'hood of povland)
>
> De dum de diddly dum de der...

   LOL! Heh, I have no idea what you mean, but it looks good and well 
thought out - I think.   :)

     Best laugh all day though... ;)

      ~Steve~




>
> -- 
> Phil Cook
>
> --
> I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
> http://flipc.blogspot.com


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