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ok, after getting fed up with either the news.povray.org web interface or
our proxy, I got to finally try out some newsgroups clients.
At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the task.
Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked downloads
of executables. That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible to
install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block http
requests. Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked ftp as
well, so I felt out of options. except...
except that I have the hateful Lotus Notes here. Hate it, but found out
that it does newsgroups as well. Well, here I am! does it look good to
you?
if not, say it that I'll drop the damned thing altogether... :D
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nemesis escribió:
> does it look good to you?
> if not, say it that I'll drop the damned thing altogether... :D
Looks good enough, but you're posting in HTML. See if you can find a way
to post in plain text only.
*Any* newsreader will be better (and a *lot* faster) than any web
interface :)
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nemesis wrote:
> At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the
> task. Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked
> downloads
> of executables. That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible
> to install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block http
> requests. Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked ftp as
> well, so I felt out of options. except...
Those darned admins. At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I
can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(
--
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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nemesis nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/25 11:05:
>
> ok, after getting fed up with either the news.povray.org web interface
> or our proxy, I got to finally try out some newsgroups clients.
>
> At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the
> task. Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked
> downloads
> of executables. That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible
> to install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block http
> requests. Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked ftp as
> well, so I felt out of options. except...
>
> except that I have the hateful Lotus Notes here. Hate it, but found out
> that it does newsgroups as well. Well, here I am! does it look good to
> you?
> if not, say it that I'll drop the damned thing altogether... :D
Have you tryed "cheating"?
Request an executable, but ask to save it as, say, a JPG, or DOC, or PPS file,
or some other extention...
Or, from home, upload it on any file sharing site, but with some custom
extention. You then retreive it from your work computer. Once you have it, just
rename with the correct extention.
--
Alain
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You know you've been raytracing too long when your personal correspondence to
friends starts out with #Dear Linda =
Ken Tyler
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> Those darned admins. At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I
> can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(
^^
They want you to work at work. ;)
No, I'm not an admin. Don't attack me. ^^
bluetree
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except so far I've been enable to get Notes to cite messages and it
searches the entire (limited to 1000 messages) catalog everytime I click
on a "folder"... :/
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nemesis <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> ok, after getting fed up with either the news.povray.org web interface or
> our proxy, I got to finally try out some newsgroups clients.
>
> At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the task.
> Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked downloads
> of executables. That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible to
> install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block http
> requests. Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked ftp as
> well, so I felt out of options. except...
>
> except that I have the hateful Lotus Notes here. Hate it, but found out
> that it does newsgroups as well. Well, here I am! does it look good to
> you?
> if not, say it that I'll drop the damned thing altogether... :D
I'm not sure, if they block any connection, but couldn't you use thunderbird
portable on a usb-drive or something like that?
It is legible, so it's also ok this way.
bluetree
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:05:28 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> does it look good to
> you?
No, because it's posting both text and HTML. <barf>
Jim
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:27:48 -0800, Chambers wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> At home I installed Mozilla Thunderbird and it's fine enough for the
>> task. Here at work, I tried to install it, but our admins blocked
>> downloads
>> of executables. That's ok, because I discovered it was still possible
>> to install it by ftp, they seemingly were only aware of how to block
>> http requests. Today, though, I sadly found out that they now blocked
>> ftp as well, so I felt out of options. except...
>
> Those darned admins. At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I
> can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(
http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html
I've used this myself when I absolutely needed the ability to use NNTP
and the port was blocked.
Jim
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executables are blocked in the proxy server. You don't get a chance to
save as anything, all you get is a standard blocked screen or
time out in the case of ftp. I actually downloaded the Windows version of
Thunderbird yesterday and zipped with the same name plus zip sufix.
Well, it turns out that Gmail identified it as Mime type application/zip
and the proxy either got that or simply scanned the whole name for exe and
found it.
How dumb am I getting or are the admins getting too smart? :P
I'm quite sure this Lotus newsgroups thing won't last much.. BTW, I think
I succeeded in turning messages to text only. is that right?
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how am I supposed to work without getting my daily dose of chit-chat?! :))
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and now?
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yes, I have a thumbdrive. I also got broadband and found it'd be more
practical to simply email me a zip that contained exe in the name... O_o
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
news:479a157f$1@news.povray.org...
> I'm quite sure this Lotus newsgroups thing won't last much.. BTW, I think
> I succeeded in turning messages to text only. is that right?
Yep! :)
~Steve~
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and BTW, that was my real self, getting in the way... ;)
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Alain wrote:
> Have you tryed "cheating"?
I saw a great tool for tunneling IP over DNS.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> how am I supposed to work without getting my daily dose of chit-chat?! :))
Perhaps you have just to propose the use of the newsreaders. Tell them how much
your work would be affected, when you are suffering withdrawal symptoms. Do you
think that would work? ;)
bluetree
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
news:479a1967@news.povray.org...
> and BTW, that was my real self, getting in the way... ;)
LOL! I've done that in the past... ;)
~Steve~
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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
news:479a1345$1@news.povray.org...
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:05:28 -0500, nemesis wrote:
>
>> does it look good to
>> you?
>
> No, because it's posting both text and HTML. <barf>
Eh? How did you know that Jim?
~Steve~
>
> Jim
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I'll try that as a last resort... ;)
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:38:50 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> I'll try that as a last resort... ;)
If you work in IT, you might point out that many vendors provide support
for their products through private news servers.
Jim
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:59:43 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> BTW, I think
> I succeeded in turning messages to text only. is that right?
Yep. :-)
Jim
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:07:32 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> and now?
Now it's better. :-)
Jim
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:20:49 +0000, St. wrote:
> Eh? How did you know that Jim?
Because my newsreader doesn't render HTML, so the HTML code shows up as
HTML code.
:-)
Jim
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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
news:479a213c$1@news.povray.org...
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:20:49 +0000, St. wrote:
>
>> Eh? How did you know that Jim?
>
> Because my newsreader doesn't render HTML, so the HTML code shows up as
> HTML code.
Ah, I see. Obviously, OE hasn't got this feature. <Must try XNews again
sometime, that was quite good iirc>
~Steve~
>
> :-)
>
> Jim
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:24:23 +0000, St. wrote:
> Ah, I see. Obviously, OE hasn't got this feature. <Must try XNews
> again
> sometime, that was quite good iirc>
Yes, XNews is quite popular. OE, as I recall, doesn't follow a lot of
the standards by default, with regards to default message types and
things like that.
Jim
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Ric### [at] stjgovbr wrote:
> yes, I have a thumbdrive.
This might help: http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird_portable
Best part about using something like that is that you don't have to
install anything. :)
--
-Ian
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nemesis nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/25 11:59:
> executables are blocked in the proxy server. You don't get a chance to
> save as anything, all you get is a standard blocked screen or
> time out in the case of ftp. I actually downloaded the Windows version of
> Thunderbird yesterday and zipped with the same name plus zip sufix.
> Well, it turns out that Gmail identified it as Mime type application/zip
> and the proxy either got that or simply scanned the whole name for exe and
> found it.
>
> How dumb am I getting or are the admins getting too smart? :P
>
> I'm quite sure this Lotus newsgroups thing won't last much.. BTW, I think
> I succeeded in turning messages to text only. is that right?
>
Have you tried some other, less known, compression formats: BH, SIT, RAR, 7Z, A,
ACE, ARC, TZ, GZ, GZA, LHA, TAR,...
--
Alain
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Taste cannot be controlled by law.
Thomas Jefferson
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Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> Have you tried some other, less known, compression formats: BH, SIT, RAR, 7Z, A,
> ACE, ARC, TZ, GZ, GZA, LHA, TAR,...
You know, the sad part is that I'm on a Linux box. Could've just typed tar czf
foo.tgz and be done with it. But I wanted to do it the dumb graphical way. So
I just relied on the defaults. That means "File-Roller" took the executable
name and just added zip. The exe continued.
Another option would be to rename the file to be uploaded, eliminating the exe
sufix. Not possible on Windows, but I've done it several times in the past on
Linux. Like when sending tgzed mp3 to gmail. :)
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nemesis escribió:
> executables are blocked in the proxy server. You don't get a chance to
> save as anything, all you get is a standard blocked screen or
> time out in the case of ftp. I actually downloaded the Windows version of
> Thunderbird yesterday and zipped with the same name plus zip sufix.
> Well, it turns out that Gmail identified it as Mime type application/zip
> and the proxy either got that or simply scanned the whole name for exe and
> found it.
FYI, GMail doesn't let you send exes, and checks the *contents* of zip
files for exes.
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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote:
> FYI, GMail doesn't let you send exes, and checks the *contents* of zip
> files for exes.
yeah, that's right. Learned it the bad way, when I tried to send the file to
some friends so that they sent it back renamed... :/
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nemesis nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/26 10:31:
> Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
>> Have you tried some other, less known, compression formats: BH, SIT, RAR, 7Z, A,
>> ACE, ARC, TZ, GZ, GZA, LHA, TAR,...
>
> You know, the sad part is that I'm on a Linux box. Could've just typed tar czf
> foo.tgz and be done with it. But I wanted to do it the dumb graphical way. So
> I just relied on the defaults. That means "File-Roller" took the executable
> name and just added zip. The exe continued.
>
> Another option would be to rename the file to be uploaded, eliminating the exe
> sufix. Not possible on Windows, but I've done it several times in the past on
> Linux. Like when sending tgzed mp3 to gmail. :)
>
>
Very easy to change or remove the extention on windows. You just neet to set
explorer to not hide known extentions. Always the first thing I do on a new install.
--
Alain
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I was making love to this girl and she started crying. I said, "Are you
going to hate yourself in the morning?" She said, "No, I hate Myself now."
Rodney Dangerfield
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Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> Very easy to change or remove the extention on windows. You just neet to set
> explorer to not hide known extentions. Always the first thing I do on a new install.
really?! It's possible to have a Windows file with actually no extension? I
don't mean hiding the extension from view, but actually having none...
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:39:05 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> really?! It's possible to have a Windows file with actually no
> extension? I don't mean hiding the extension from view, but
> actually having none...
Of course it is. What made you think otherwise?
--
FE
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"Fredrik Eriksson" <noo### [at] nowherecom> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:39:05 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > really?! It's possible to have a Windows file with actually no
> > extension? I don't mean hiding the extension from view, but
> > actually having none...
>
> Of course it is. What made you think otherwise?
old times? I remember at some point Windows didn't let it be done.
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:07:13 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "Fredrik Eriksson" <noo### [at] nowherecom> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:39:05 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom>
>> wrote:
>> > really?! It's possible to have a Windows file with actually no
>> > extension? I don't mean hiding the extension from view, but
>> > actually having none...
>>
>> Of course it is. What made you think otherwise?
>
> old times? I remember at some point Windows didn't let it be done.
At what point was that? Even MS-DOS let you have extensionless files.
--
FE
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"Fredrik Eriksson" <noo### [at] nowherecom> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:07:13 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > "Fredrik Eriksson" <noo### [at] nowherecom> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:39:05 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom>
> >> wrote:
> >> > really?! It's possible to have a Windows file with actually no
> >> > extension? I don't mean hiding the extension from view, but
> >> > actually having none...
> >>
> >> Of course it is. What made you think otherwise?
> >
> > old times? I remember at some point Windows didn't let it be done.
>
> At what point was that? Even MS-DOS let you have extensionless files.
perhaps it did, but not obviously. Alain said he had to set up some
configuration in order to do it.
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:21:33 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "Fredrik Eriksson" <noo### [at] nowherecom> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:07:13 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom>
>> wrote:
>> > "Fredrik Eriksson" <noo### [at] nowherecom> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:39:05 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > really?! It's possible to have a Windows file with actually no
>> >> > extension? I don't mean hiding the extension from view, but
>> >> > actually having none...
>> >>
>> >> Of course it is. What made you think otherwise?
>> >
>> > old times? I remember at some point Windows didn't let it be done.
>>
>> At what point was that? Even MS-DOS let you have extensionless files.
>
> perhaps it did, but not obviously. Alain said he had to set up some
> configuration in order to do it.
That is a problem caused by the default options in Explorer. It was not an
issue back in the days of MS-DOS and Windows 3.x, nor is it an issue if
you use the command console in Windows XP/Vista.
--
FE
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nemesis nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/26 13:21:
> "Fredrik Eriksson" <noo### [at] nowherecom> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:07:13 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> "Fredrik Eriksson" <noo### [at] nowherecom> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:39:05 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> really?! It's possible to have a Windows file with actually no
>>>>> extension? I don't mean hiding the extension from view, but
>>>>> actually having none...
>>>> Of course it is. What made you think otherwise?
>>> old times? I remember at some point Windows didn't let it be done.
>> At what point was that? Even MS-DOS let you have extensionless files.
>
> perhaps it did, but not obviously. Alain said he had to set up some
> configuration in order to do it.
>
>
Explorer's default to always hiding the extentions that are registered.
To change:
Open an explorer window.
In the menu, chose "Tools"
Chose "Folders options"
Select the "Display" tab
Scroll down to "Hide extentions of known files types"
Uncheck the associated box.
Click "OK"
A few lines lower, you can supress the anoying "shortcut to..." from been added
to the name of new shortcuts.
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Alain
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You know you've been raytracing too long when you resign the fact that printing
uses CMYK instead of RGB to one of those tests God gave to Job; otherwise life
would be too painful to go on.
-- Taps a.k.a. Tapio Vocadlo
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html
>
> I've used this myself when I absolutely needed the ability to use NNTP
> and the port was blocked.
Umm... no thanks. I'd rather not lose my job if they find out I've
installed custom software to bypass their security :)
--
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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bluetree wrote:
>> Those darned admins. At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I
>> can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(
>
> ^^
> They want you to work at work. ;)
Anyone who thinks that POV-Ray isn't work doesn't love it enough :)
--
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
> > http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html
> >
> > I've used this myself when I absolutely needed the ability to use NNTP
> > and the port was blocked.
>
> Umm... no thanks. I'd rather not lose my job if they find out I've
> installed custom software to bypass their security :)
yes. That's why I thought it'd be great to use Lotus Notes... :))
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Chambers wrote:
>
> Those darned admins. At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I
> can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(
>
You install OpenSSH server at your home-PC, make sure that you have
route from work to the homebox and enchant "ssh -L 119:203.29.75.35:119"
and configure your news reader at work to connect to localhost. Voilá.
And if you'll close the SSH-connection, there's no route to the news
server either.
--
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
> >
> > Those darned admins. At my job, they block the NNTP protocol, so I
> > can't read ng with anything other than the web interface :(
> >
>
> You install OpenSSH server at your home-PC, make sure that you have
> route from work to the homebox and enchant "ssh -L 119:203.29.75.35:119"
> and configure your news reader at work to connect to localhost. Voilá.
> And if you'll close the SSH-connection, there's no route to the news
> server either.
diabolical plans to postpone work. Learned from the BOFH? ;)
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:06:59 -0800, Chambers wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html
>>
>> I've used this myself when I absolutely needed the ability to use NNTP
>> and the port was blocked.
>
> Umm... no thanks. I'd rather not lose my job if they find out I've
> installed custom software to bypass their security :)
Well, there is that. I've always gotten permission first before using
something like this.
Jim
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Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> At what point was that? Even MS-DOS let you have extensionless files.
Heck, CP/M let you have extensionless files. :-)
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
On what day did God create the body thetans?
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nemesis wrote:
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> diabolical plans to postpone work. Learned from the BOFH? ;)
>
Learned from? Heck, I AM the BOFH ;).
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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Learned from? Heck, I AM the BOFH ;).
>
...meaning I work as one. AFAIK I'm not the one who inspired the stories :p.
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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Darren New wrote:
> Alain wrote:
>> Have you tryed "cheating"?
>
> I saw a great tool for tunneling IP over DNS.
>
What next, IP via Morse Code timed SNMP pings? The check sums would need
work, one faulty router in the middle and S turns into O.
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Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Alain wrote:
>>> Have you tryed "cheating"?
>> I saw a great tool for tunneling IP over DNS.
>>
>
> What next, IP via Morse Code timed SNMP pings?
You laugh, but this is exactly the sort of thing NSA, CIA, and other spy
places worry are running on their computers. It's called "covert
channels", which wikipedia has a decent page on. "Port knocking" is when
you do this on purpose to talk to your firewall.
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
On what day did God create the body thetans?
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