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From: Warp
Subject: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 21 Jan 2008 13:40:38
Message: <4794e726@news.povray.org>
I suffer from this bug, and it seems that many other do too:

http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499

  The thing is, this bug has been known for well over a year and it has
persisted from driver to driver without being fixed. And it seems ATI
refuses to even aknowledge the problem. Look here:

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_81_linux.html#183417

  It's the list of known issues in the linux driver. This problem is not
mentioned, and has never been mentioned in any version of the driver, even
though it has been known for well over a year and many people have complained
about it. As you can see, other problems are aknowledged, but not this one.

  Why, ATI, why?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 21 Jan 2008 14:39:37
Message: <4794f4f9$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Why, ATI, why?

Because they can't fix it, and don't want to acknowledge that fact?

I've given up hope that the graphics cards vendors will actually start 
caring for their fans.  Time after time, I've seen release notes state 
things like performance improvements on specific games with specific 
cards - and it's always the games that are used for benchmarks, and 
always the high end rigs (either the most expensive cards, or SLI / 
Crossfire), yet not touching bugs or adding usable features.

Heck, even if they would make changes that resulted in performance 
improvements for a variety of 3d apps, that would be better... but for a 
single game, with a single card?  (And testing the new driver on my end 
confirmed no improvements in any other apps).

-- 
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 22 Jan 2008 07:23:01
Message: <4795e025$1@news.povray.org>
>>   Why, ATI, why?
>
> Because they can't fix it, and don't want to acknowledge that fact?

Maybe they have more important things to throw their resources at currently?

I'm sure they'd rather fix some smaller bug in the Windows drivers than this 
bug - there's the potential to lose a lot more business with small bugs in 
Windows than big bugs in Linux.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 22 Jan 2008 11:08:46
Message: <4796150e@news.povray.org>
scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> Maybe they have more important things to throw their resources at currently?

> I'm sure they'd rather fix some smaller bug in the Windows drivers than this 
> bug - there's the potential to lose a lot more business with small bugs in 
> Windows than big bugs in Linux.

  That doesn't explain why they don't even aknowledge it.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 23 Jan 2008 02:42:50
Message: <4796effa$1@news.povray.org>
>> Maybe they have more important things to throw their resources at 
>> currently?
>
>> I'm sure they'd rather fix some smaller bug in the Windows drivers than 
>> this
>> bug - there's the potential to lose a lot more business with small bugs 
>> in
>> Windows than big bugs in Linux.
>
>  That doesn't explain why they don't even aknowledge it.

Do they usually test reported bugs themselves before acknowledging them on 
their website?  Perhaps they just haven't gone through the internal 
processes yet that allows them to officially acknowledge a bug?

Maybe they don't want to discourage other people from ATI?  If I was ATI I 
wouldn't exactly put at the top of my buglist "Fans don't work and chipset 
overheats - known for 1.5 years not fixed"...

On the other hand, maybe they know the bug will go away with new cards - and 
the bug is too much effort to fix with current cards.  So, in fact, they are 
just ignoring it and hope it will go away.

What's your theory?  Has anyone tried to actually contact them on the 
subject?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 23 Jan 2008 03:21:26
Message: <4796f906@news.povray.org>
scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> Has anyone tried to actually contact them on the subject?

  It's their official bug reporting system I gave a link to.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 23 Jan 2008 03:44:51
Message: <4796fe83@news.povray.org>
>> Has anyone tried to actually contact them on the subject?
> 
>  It's their official bug reporting system I gave a link to.

The first word I read on that page was "unofficial"...


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 23 Jan 2008 04:02:32
Message: <479702a8@news.povray.org>
scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> >> Has anyone tried to actually contact them on the subject?
> > 
> >  It's their official bug reporting system I gave a link to.

> The first word I read on that page was "unofficial"...

  It's so official that they link to it from their official ati.com
website.

  Besides, who do you think that bug reporting system is for? It has
been created for some reason.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Grrrr at ATI
Date: 23 Jan 2008 04:56:39
Message: <47970f57@news.povray.org>
>  Besides, who do you think that bug reporting system is for? It has
> been created for some reason.

Just for Linux people to believe that ATI actually care about you :-)


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