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Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O
Some of you may know I sent them an electronic copy of my CV in early
December after seeing an advert in the local newspaper. I suspected I'd
never hear from them ever again.
But wait. I just opened a letter [yes, they *paid* to reply to me].
Apparently, I don't get the job.
Well, that's not so surprising. I suspected I'm probably not what they
wanted for this particular position. But hey, I'm just amazed they
actually bothered to reply. Usually employers just don't bother to speak
to you unless they want to interview you.
Wow.
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O
> Apparently, I don't get the job.
who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional woes? get a
blog, dude!
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nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
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> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> > Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O
> > Apparently, I don't get the job.
> who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional woes? get a
> blog, dude!
Yeah, 100% blog material.
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nemesis wrote:
> who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional woes? get a
> blog, dude!
He has a Blog ...
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Warp nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/14 14:25:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
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>> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O
>>> Apparently, I don't get the job.
>
>> who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional woes? get a
>> blog, dude!
>
> Yeah, 100% blog material.
>
Blog material is off-topic. So, it's on-topic on an off-topic group ;-)
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tell from 10,000 feet." -- Anon.
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nemesis wrote:
> who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional woes? get a
> blog, dude!
Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
**** about my life. Sorry about that...
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:15:38 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O Apparently, I
>> don't get the job.
>
> who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional
> woes? get a blog, dude!
There's always the "ignore" option in your newsreader. This *IS* off-
topic, is it not?
Sheesh.
Jim
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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote
> nemesis wrote:
> > who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional
woes? get a
> > blog, dude!
> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:05:36 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional
>> woes? get a blog, dude!
>
> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
Well, don't be. Just because a few people complain doesn't mean you
should stop what you're doing. If you changed direction everytime one or
two people said "dude, you suck!", you'd never get anything accomplished.
Jim
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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O
>
> Some of you may know I sent them an electronic copy of my CV in early
> December after seeing an advert in the local newspaper. I suspected I'd
> never hear from them ever again.
>
> But wait. I just opened a letter [yes, they *paid* to reply to me].
>
> Apparently, I don't get the job.
>
> Well, that's not so surprising. I suspected I'm probably not what they
> wanted for this particular position. But hey, I'm just amazed they
> actually bothered to reply. Usually employers just don't bother to speak
> to you unless they want to interview you.
>
> Wow.
>
Hey, congrats on hearing back! Did he give you any useful advice?
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www.pacificwebguy.com
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> Apparently, I don't get the job.
You are entitled to ask why you didn't get it and they must tell you (if
they haven't already). They might give you some useful information or
pointers. Definitely worth writing back to them and requesting the info.
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scott wrote:
>> Apparently, I don't get the job.
>
> You are entitled to ask why you didn't get it and they must tell you (if
> they haven't already). They might give you some useful information or
> pointers. Definitely worth writing back to them and requesting the info.
Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)
Well anyway, in this case I would suspect it's because I don't have X
years of commercial programming experience as stipulated by the advert,
and they found else somebody who does. I figured I probably wouldn't get
it back when I applied - but you gotta try these things.
Still really impressed that they bothered to write back. No employer has
ever done that before... [And they sent a *letter*, which costs actuall
money, rather than just sending an email. They even hand-signed it...]
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Chambers wrote:
> Hey, congrats on hearing back! Did he give you any useful advice?
Not really, no. Just the standard "unfortunately you have not been
selected. Thank you for your continued interest in our company and we
wish you every success in your future endevours" or something.
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scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> > Apparently, I don't get the job.
> You are entitled to ask why you didn't get it and they must tell you (if
> they haven't already). They might give you some useful information or
> pointers. Definitely worth writing back to them and requesting the info.
Are you talking about UK law or something else?
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>> You are entitled to ask why you didn't get it and they must tell you (if
>> they haven't already). They might give you some useful information or
>> pointers. Definitely worth writing back to them and requesting the info.
>
> Are you talking about UK law or something else?
UK law - don't know whether it comes from some EU law though. Probably some
human rights thingy about an employer having to reveal their reasoning for
not choosing you so you know there was no illegal discrimination involved.
If the employer won't give you a legal reason then you can take them to some
employment tribunal where the real reason will be exposed and they could be
punished if it's illegal.
Obivously only in very rare occasions does that happen, most employers will
be happy to give you a brief reasoning straight away if you take the effort
to write to them.
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scott wrote:
>> Are you talking about UK law or something else?
>
> UK law - don't know whether it comes from some EU law though. Probably
> some human rights thingy about an employer having to reveal their
> reasoning for not choosing you so you know there was no illegal
> discrimination involved. If the employer won't give you a legal reason
> then you can take them to some employment tribunal where the real reason
> will be exposed and they could be punished if it's illegal.
>
> Obivously only in very rare occasions does that happen, most employers
> will be happy to give you a brief reasoning straight away if you take
> the effort to write to them.
Mmm. How interesting...
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:17:11 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Obivously only in very rare occasions does that happen, most employers
>> will be happy to give you a brief reasoning straight away if you take
>> the effort to write to them.
>
>Mmm. How interesting...
And if you apply through an agency they should get the feedback and pass it on
to you.
Besides helping you to understand what the company were looking for, it might
bring you to their attention as someone who is interested in working for them.
Who knows what might turn up?
Regards
Stephen
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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O
>
> Some of you may know I sent them an electronic copy of my CV in early
> December after seeing an advert in the local newspaper. I suspected I'd
> never hear from them ever again.
>
> But wait. I just opened a letter [yes, they *paid* to reply to me].
>
> Apparently, I don't get the job.
>
I once went for a second interview (like only 2-3 people made it) and
never heard back. I should have called, but the manager didn't impress
me at all. It didn't surprise me that I didn't hear back.
Tom
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:24:44 -0700, "somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote:
>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>
>I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...
>
That's an interesting response, given that your username is "somebody".
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>>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>> I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...
>
> That's an interesting response, given that your username is "somebody".
ROFL!
--
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:39:19 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>
>> Hey, congrats on hearing back! Did he give you any useful advice?
>
> Not really, no. Just the standard "unfortunately you have not been
> selected. Thank you for your continued interest in our company and we
> wish you every success in your future endevours" or something.
Well, don't be discouraged by it - not everyone's going to hire you.
After writing my first book, I interviewed for a position at Iomega.
Even gave them a copy of the book, and blew away the technical interview.
They still didn't ask me back; I didn't have the right letters after my
name; I held no certifications at all at the time, and they wanted to see
that. At the time I was one of about 35 people answering questions on
CompuServe for Novell, which ought to have been enough. Getting the cert
wasn't easy - but not terribly difficult either, whereas being invited to
that rather elite group was on a peer recommendation basis, and they/we
were VERY hard to impress.
Unfortunately for Iomega, my experience counted little for anything
compared to the letters after my name. <shrug> Their loss.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:39:19 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>
>> Chambers wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, congrats on hearing back! Did he give you any useful advice?
>> Not really, no. Just the standard "unfortunately you have not been
>> selected. Thank you for your continued interest in our company and we
>> wish you every success in your future endevours" or something.
>
> Well, don't be discouraged by it - not everyone's going to hire you.
Yeah, sure. I was fairly sure I wouldn't get the job in the first place.
I just thought I'd give it a go... ;-)
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:55:10 -0500, Tom Austin wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>> Well **** me backwards... Travis Perkins replied. o_O
>>
>> Some of you may know I sent them an electronic copy of my CV in early
>> December after seeing an advert in the local newspaper. I suspected I'd
>> never hear from them ever again.
>>
>> But wait. I just opened a letter [yes, they *paid* to reply to me].
>>
>> Apparently, I don't get the job.
>>
>>
>
> I once went for a second interview (like only 2-3 people made it) and
> never heard back. I should have called, but the manager didn't impress
> me at all. It didn't surprise me that I didn't hear back.
I always considered an interview as a two-way street. They were
interviewing me, but I was also interviewing them. If I didn't like what
I heard, I'd turn the job down (and have a couple of times).
Jim
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somebody nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/14 21:24:
> "Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote
>> nemesis wrote:
>
>>> who is Travis Perkins and why should I care about your professional
> woes? get a
>>> blog, dude!
>
>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>
> I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...
>
>
Found him! It's you ;-)
--
Alain
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:12:57 -0500, Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
>>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>>
>> I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...
>>
>>
>Found him! It's you ;-)
Ah ;)
Regards
Stephen
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:12:57 -0500, Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
>--
>Alain
>-------------------------------------------------
>'No, `Eureka' is Greek for `This bath is too hot.'' -- Dr. Who
No, Eureka is Glaswegian for "You need a bath". -- Everyone
Regards
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:48:00 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:39:19 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> Chambers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey, congrats on hearing back! Did he give you any useful advice?
>>> Not really, no. Just the standard "unfortunately you have not been
>>> selected. Thank you for your continued interest in our company and we
>>> wish you every success in your future endevours" or something.
>>
>> Well, don't be discouraged by it - not everyone's going to hire you.
>
> Yeah, sure. I was fairly sure I wouldn't get the job in the first place.
> I just thought I'd give it a go... ;-)
Then good for you! That's the spirit, and all that. :-)
Jim
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>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>
> Well, don't be. Just because a few people complain doesn't mean you
> should stop what you're doing. If you changed direction everytime one or
> two people said "dude, you suck!", you'd never get anything accomplished.
Hmm... perhaps this is why I have never accomplished anything in my
entire life?
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:09:44 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>>> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
>>> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
>>
>> Well, don't be. Just because a few people complain doesn't mean you
>> should stop what you're doing. If you changed direction everytime one
>> or two people said "dude, you suck!", you'd never get anything
>> accomplished.
>
> Hmm... perhaps this is why I have never accomplished anything in my
> entire life?
IMO, the best approach is not to worry about pleasing other people or
about what other people think. Just be yourself.
I'm in charge of a somewhat large number of external instructors in my
job; if I spent all my time trying to please them all, I'd never get any
work done at all. So I make my decisions based on my perception of
what's best for the majority of the group overall. Some of them don't
like it, because they don't get special treatment that they used to get.
Usually that's enough, but I've got a few who insist they be treated
differently. That's too bad, because I'm not making exceptions for
friends of mine, so why should I make exceptions for someone who says
they should get one?
Overall, the group (several hundred members) has appreciated what I've
done. The subset that are unhappy with me are a small minority, but they
can be very vocal.
Jim
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"Kyle" <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:24:44 -0700, "somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote:
> >> Ah yes... I keep having these delusions that somebody actually gives a
> >> **** about my life. Sorry about that...
> >I'm pretty sure somebody does, the tricky part is finding him/her...
> That's an interesting response, given that your username is "somebody".
Naturally, I'm thinking about somebody *else*.
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Invisible wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>
>> Hey, congrats on hearing back! Did he give you any useful advice?
>
> Not really, no.
Ah, a Wilkinson letter.
"You have a very impressive resume. Unfortunately, we can't hire you at
this time."
The first sentence lifts you high, the second sentence snips you off
real close and smooth.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Invisible wrote:
> Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)
It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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>> Hmm... perhaps this is why I have never accomplished anything in my
>> entire life?
>
> IMO, the best approach is not to worry about pleasing other people or
> about what other people think. Just be yourself.
Heh. Just imagine what must be possible if you possess self-confidence...
> Overall, the group (several hundred members) has appreciated what I've
> done. The subset that are unhappy with me are a small minority, but they
> can be very vocal.
...and this is why I'll never be a leader. ;-)
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Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)
>
> It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)
Oh yes - the singing fish episode...
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
> > Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)
> It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)
While I'm not inherently opposed to capitalism (as long as there's a
strong government protecting people from exploitation), sometimes it feels
that the capitalist ideology has gone way too far in the US. Sometimes it
feels that employers and companies have way too many rights over employees
and individuals.
Maybe it's a bit of a counter-reaction (if not even an over-reaction)
to the dangers of communism?
I'll be interested in seeing Michael Moore's documentary about the
farmaceutical industry in the capitalist US. Should be interesting.
(I know he sometimes presents conveniently selected truths, and I do
take them with the proper grain of salt, but I'm sure that he has good
points.)
--
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> I always considered an interview as a two-way street. They were
> interviewing me, but I was also interviewing them. If I didn't like what
> I heard, I'd turn the job down (and have a couple of times).
>
It's the only smart thing to do - unless you are desperate.
Tom
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And lo on Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:43:31 -0000, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> did
spake, saying:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Invisible wrote:
>> > Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)
>
>> It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)
>
> While I'm not inherently opposed to capitalism (as long as there's a
> strong government protecting people from exploitation), sometimes it
> feels
> that the capitalist ideology has gone way too far in the US. Sometimes it
> feels that employers and companies have way too many rights over
> employees
> and individuals.
>
> Maybe it's a bit of a counter-reaction (if not even an over-reaction)
> to the dangers of communism?
>
> I'll be interested in seeing Michael Moore's documentary about the
> farmaceutical industry in the capitalist US. Should be interesting.
> (I know he sometimes presents conveniently selected truths, and I do
> take them with the proper grain of salt, but I'm sure that he has good
> points.)
Just seen it recently, better then his other films in that for the first
half he not only stays out from the front of the camera, but doesn't
appear behind it either he's VO only. He eulogises about the NHS without
mentioning how we're trying to turn it slowly into the American system.
Then has some fun in France and Cuba.
"How much is this medicine in the US?"
"About $120"
"And here [in Cuba]?"
"3 Pesos"
"Which is?"
"About 5 cents"
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:10:04 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>> Hmm... perhaps this is why I have never accomplished anything in my
>>> entire life?
>>
>> IMO, the best approach is not to worry about pleasing other people or
>> about what other people think. Just be yourself.
>
> Heh. Just imagine what must be possible if you possess
> self-confidence...
I don't have to. :-)
But one way of gaining some self-confidence is to not care what others
think, or at least to not care as much what others think.
>> Overall, the group (several hundred members) has appreciated what I've
>> done. The subset that are unhappy with me are a small minority, but
>> they can be very vocal.
>
> ...and this is why I'll never be a leader. ;-)
Give yourself time; never say never. 10 years ago, I was an IT person,
and had no ambitions to be any kind of people person or to lead in any
way. Yet here I am, and I've found that I'm not bad at it.
Jim
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:43:31 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Sometimes it
> feels that employers and companies have way too many rights over
> employees and individuals.
This is certainly true.
Jim
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:49:56 -0500, Tom Austin wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> I always considered an interview as a two-way street. They were
>> interviewing me, but I was also interviewing them. If I didn't like
>> what I heard, I'd turn the job down (and have a couple of times).
>>
>>
>
> It's the only smart thing to do - unless you are desperate.
Even after several months being unemployed, I did this. I also did not
accept the offer on the spot. If anything, when you're desperate, you
need to be more diligent, because if the prospective employer smells that
you are desperate, they will generally take advantage of your desperation.
After my stint of unemployment, I got hired by a Fortune 50 company, and
I ended up making 50% again what I was making in the previous job (~$35K
at the old job, just over $50K at the new), and that was more than I was
asking for. I was quite happy with the offer when presented, but I took
a couple of days to review it before accepting it, just to make sure
there were no hidden terms.
Jim
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Warp wrote:
> Maybe it's a bit of a counter-reaction (if not even an over-reaction)
> to the dangers of communism?
I think it's more corporations having more access to politicians than
most people.
Employees definitely have a wide variety of rights here. Sure, not as
many as in Europe. But forcing the *potential* employer to tell you why
you didn't get picked for a job isn't one of them. Honestly, I can't
imagine what use it would be if people just said "we didn't hire you
because the people who interviewed you didn't like you."
Employees can quit any time. Employers can fire you at any time. Unless
you mutually agree. There are certain employers who can't fire you
easily (mostly government) and certain employees who can't quit easily
(mostly government) and unions and unemployment insurance and stuff like
that.
But until you're actually employed, there aren't a whole lot of laws
protecting you - mostly just anti-discrimination stuff, which apply
pretty much equally to looking for jobs, buying houses, and so on.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Employees can quit any time. Employers can fire you at any time.
Here employees have to notify their employers one month in advance
before quitting. (I assume there might be some exceptions in very
special circumstances such as being physically incapable of working.)
Employers have to notify the employee three months in advance before
they fire him, and they can't fire him for any reason they want
(although, I would imagine, it shouldn't be difficult to come up with
a perfectly legal reason to do so). This is probably one of the reasons
why employers like to contract employees on limited job contracts only,
as they can just terminate the employment when the contract ends
(I suppose a job contract having a termination date is equivalent to
having announced the "firing" of the employee well in advance).
Of course there are situations were employees can be "fired" right
away, without the 3-month warning, but those circumstances are usually
rather catastrophical (such as the company suddenly becoming bankcrupt).
--
- Warp
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Darren New wrote:
> Ah, a Wilkinson letter.
>
> "You have a very impressive resume. Unfortunately, we can't hire you at
> this time."
>
> The first sentence lifts you high, the second sentence snips you off
> real close and smooth.
I recall seeing a quote somewhere about how dating and job interviews
are quite similar, and how you'll get to know a girl who really likes
you, yet goes out with everybody except you, but then calls you up to
complain about them... Unfortunately (?) I don't remember where.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Tom Austin wrote:
> It's the only smart thing to do - unless you are desperate.
I do sometimes worry I might end up working for one of those companies
on The Daily WTF. I mean, sure, you read about them, but they must
actually exist in reality somewhere - and I do NOT want to work for them!
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:13:53 +0100, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I recall seeing a quote somewhere about how dating and job interviews
> are quite similar, and how you'll get to know a girl who really likes
> you, yet goes out with everybody except you, but then calls you up to
> complain about them... Unfortunately (?) I don't remember where.
http://www.bash.org/?414593
--
FE
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Employees can quit any time. Employers can fire you at any time.
>
> Here employees have to notify their employers one month in advance
> before quitting.
What if they don't? I mean, what if I just stop showing up for work and
move to a different city? What happens to me?
> Employers have to notify the employee three months in advance before
> they fire him, and they can't fire him for any reason they want
Usually you don't get any particular warning, unless you're either
unionized (i.e., the workers have a group contract with the employer,
which is not uncommon) or the employer has already promised it.
You'll often get "severance pay", which is where the employer pays you
to not come in to work for a while. Many places will, for example, give
you a week's pay or two for each year you've worked for them, when they
fire you.
And of course there are illegal reasons to fire people, but the
presumption is that it's legal to fire someone.
> (I suppose a job contract having a termination date is equivalent to
> having announced the "firing" of the employee well in advance).
Makes sense.
> Of course there are situations were employees can be "fired" right
> away, without the 3-month warning, but those circumstances are usually
> rather catastrophical (such as the company suddenly becoming bankcrupt).
I'd expect the employee getting caught stealing or otherwise doing
something seriously wrong would be another reason.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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>> Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)
>
> It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)
What happens if you feel you were racially/sexually/...lly discriminated
against during the selection process? Is there nothing you can do if the
employer won't give you any reason why you weren't employed?
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> I'd expect the employee getting caught stealing or otherwise doing
> something seriously wrong would be another reason.
In my employment contract it says that both the employer and the employee
must give at least 3 months notice before terminating the contract. It also
says that under cases of gross misconduct the employer is allowed to
terminate the contract immediately. There's probably 100 other get-out
clauses as well that I haven't bothered to read.
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> I do sometimes worry I might end up working for one of those companies
> on The Daily WTF. I mean, sure, you read about them, but they must
> actually exist in reality somewhere - and I do NOT want to work for them!
I thought you were already working for one of them? ;-)
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scott wrote:
>> I do sometimes worry I might end up working for one of those companies
>> on The Daily WTF. I mean, sure, you read about them, but they must
>> actually exist in reality somewhere - and I do NOT want to work for them!
>
> I thought you were already working for one of them? ;-)
...OMG!!! 0_0
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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