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And lo on Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:43:31 -0000, Warp <war### [at] tag povrayorg> did
spake, saying:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Invisible wrote:
>> > Interesting. I didn't know that. (Does it also apply in the UK?)
>
>> It sure as H doesn't in the USA! :-)
>
> While I'm not inherently opposed to capitalism (as long as there's a
> strong government protecting people from exploitation), sometimes it
> feels
> that the capitalist ideology has gone way too far in the US. Sometimes it
> feels that employers and companies have way too many rights over
> employees
> and individuals.
>
> Maybe it's a bit of a counter-reaction (if not even an over-reaction)
> to the dangers of communism?
>
> I'll be interested in seeing Michael Moore's documentary about the
> farmaceutical industry in the capitalist US. Should be interesting.
> (I know he sometimes presents conveniently selected truths, and I do
> take them with the proper grain of salt, but I'm sure that he has good
> points.)
Just seen it recently, better then his other films in that for the first
half he not only stays out from the front of the camera, but doesn't
appear behind it either he's VO only. He eulogises about the NHS without
mentioning how we're trying to turn it slowly into the American system.
Then has some fun in France and Cuba.
"How much is this medicine in the US?"
"About $120"
"And here [in Cuba]?"
"3 Pesos"
"Which is?"
"About 5 cents"
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:10:04 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>> Hmm... perhaps this is why I have never accomplished anything in my
>>> entire life?
>>
>> IMO, the best approach is not to worry about pleasing other people or
>> about what other people think. Just be yourself.
>
> Heh. Just imagine what must be possible if you possess
> self-confidence...
I don't have to. :-)
But one way of gaining some self-confidence is to not care what others
think, or at least to not care as much what others think.
>> Overall, the group (several hundred members) has appreciated what I've
>> done. The subset that are unhappy with me are a small minority, but
>> they can be very vocal.
>
> ...and this is why I'll never be a leader. ;-)
Give yourself time; never say never. 10 years ago, I was an IT person,
and had no ambitions to be any kind of people person or to lead in any
way. Yet here I am, and I've found that I'm not bad at it.
Jim
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:43:31 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Sometimes it
> feels that employers and companies have way too many rights over
> employees and individuals.
This is certainly true.
Jim
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:49:56 -0500, Tom Austin wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> I always considered an interview as a two-way street. They were
>> interviewing me, but I was also interviewing them. If I didn't like
>> what I heard, I'd turn the job down (and have a couple of times).
>>
>>
>
> It's the only smart thing to do - unless you are desperate.
Even after several months being unemployed, I did this. I also did not
accept the offer on the spot. If anything, when you're desperate, you
need to be more diligent, because if the prospective employer smells that
you are desperate, they will generally take advantage of your desperation.
After my stint of unemployment, I got hired by a Fortune 50 company, and
I ended up making 50% again what I was making in the previous job (~$35K
at the old job, just over $50K at the new), and that was more than I was
asking for. I was quite happy with the offer when presented, but I took
a couple of days to review it before accepting it, just to make sure
there were no hidden terms.
Jim
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Warp wrote:
> Maybe it's a bit of a counter-reaction (if not even an over-reaction)
> to the dangers of communism?
I think it's more corporations having more access to politicians than
most people.
Employees definitely have a wide variety of rights here. Sure, not as
many as in Europe. But forcing the *potential* employer to tell you why
you didn't get picked for a job isn't one of them. Honestly, I can't
imagine what use it would be if people just said "we didn't hire you
because the people who interviewed you didn't like you."
Employees can quit any time. Employers can fire you at any time. Unless
you mutually agree. There are certain employers who can't fire you
easily (mostly government) and certain employees who can't quit easily
(mostly government) and unions and unemployment insurance and stuff like
that.
But until you're actually employed, there aren't a whole lot of laws
protecting you - mostly just anti-discrimination stuff, which apply
pretty much equally to looking for jobs, buying houses, and so on.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Employees can quit any time. Employers can fire you at any time.
Here employees have to notify their employers one month in advance
before quitting. (I assume there might be some exceptions in very
special circumstances such as being physically incapable of working.)
Employers have to notify the employee three months in advance before
they fire him, and they can't fire him for any reason they want
(although, I would imagine, it shouldn't be difficult to come up with
a perfectly legal reason to do so). This is probably one of the reasons
why employers like to contract employees on limited job contracts only,
as they can just terminate the employment when the contract ends
(I suppose a job contract having a termination date is equivalent to
having announced the "firing" of the employee well in advance).
Of course there are situations were employees can be "fired" right
away, without the 3-month warning, but those circumstances are usually
rather catastrophical (such as the company suddenly becoming bankcrupt).
--
- Warp
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Darren New wrote:
> Ah, a Wilkinson letter.
>
> "You have a very impressive resume. Unfortunately, we can't hire you at
> this time."
>
> The first sentence lifts you high, the second sentence snips you off
> real close and smooth.
I recall seeing a quote somewhere about how dating and job interviews
are quite similar, and how you'll get to know a girl who really likes
you, yet goes out with everybody except you, but then calls you up to
complain about them... Unfortunately (?) I don't remember where.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Tom Austin wrote:
> It's the only smart thing to do - unless you are desperate.
I do sometimes worry I might end up working for one of those companies
on The Daily WTF. I mean, sure, you read about them, but they must
actually exist in reality somewhere - and I do NOT want to work for them!
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:13:53 +0100, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I recall seeing a quote somewhere about how dating and job interviews
> are quite similar, and how you'll get to know a girl who really likes
> you, yet goes out with everybody except you, but then calls you up to
> complain about them... Unfortunately (?) I don't remember where.
http://www.bash.org/?414593
--
FE
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Employees can quit any time. Employers can fire you at any time.
>
> Here employees have to notify their employers one month in advance
> before quitting.
What if they don't? I mean, what if I just stop showing up for work and
move to a different city? What happens to me?
> Employers have to notify the employee three months in advance before
> they fire him, and they can't fire him for any reason they want
Usually you don't get any particular warning, unless you're either
unionized (i.e., the workers have a group contract with the employer,
which is not uncommon) or the employer has already promised it.
You'll often get "severance pay", which is where the employer pays you
to not come in to work for a while. Many places will, for example, give
you a week's pay or two for each year you've worked for them, when they
fire you.
And of course there are illegal reasons to fire people, but the
presumption is that it's legal to fire someone.
> (I suppose a job contract having a termination date is equivalent to
> having announced the "firing" of the employee well in advance).
Makes sense.
> Of course there are situations were employees can be "fired" right
> away, without the 3-month warning, but those circumstances are usually
> rather catastrophical (such as the company suddenly becoming bankcrupt).
I'd expect the employee getting caught stealing or otherwise doing
something seriously wrong would be another reason.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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