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From: Darren New
Subject: Another physical puzzle
Date: 1 Jan 2008 19:13:32
Message: <477ad72c$1@news.povray.org>
You are sitting in a canoe, in a swimming pool, holding a cannon ball in 
your lap. You throw the cannonball overboard, and it sinks to the 
bottom. Does the level of water in the pool go up, go down, or stay the 
same?

(I've asked this of probably a dozen or more scuba dive instructors, and 
only one has gotten it right. The reasoning behind the correct answer is 
obvious once you hear it. I don't remember if I got it right when I 
heard it.)

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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 1 Jan 2008 22:00:40
Message: <9ivln315r131mcentc5f1v0m6dnl3cpneq@4ax.com>
Is the canoe traveling near the speed of light?


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 1 Jan 2008 22:07:21
Message: <477affe9$1@news.povray.org>

> Is the canoe traveling near the speed of light?
> 

I lol'd.


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 1 Jan 2008 23:33:29
Message: <477b1419@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> You are sitting in a canoe, in a swimming pool, holding a cannon ball in 
> your lap. You throw the cannonball overboard, and it sinks to the 
> bottom. Does the level of water in the pool go up, go down, or stay the 
> same?

The water goes up (then down again) in a mostly parabolic manner since 
the bowling ball would make a large splash :-)

I won't spoil the real answer for anyone still thinking about it, but 
here's another fun physical puzzle that I remember:

If you've been on the beach, you've probably noticed that the sand dries 
out around you foot when you step on it, why is this?  Wouldn't you 
expect a small puddle of water to form around your foot instead?


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 1 Jan 2008 23:40:07
Message: <477b15a7@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
news:477ad72c$1@news.povray.org...
> You are sitting in a canoe, in a swimming pool, holding a cannon ball in
> your lap. You throw the cannonball overboard, and it sinks to the
> bottom. Does the level of water in the pool go up, go down, or stay the
> same?

I believe it should stay the same.


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 2 Jan 2008 00:03:02
Message: <MPG.21e4c8ed2b1f3e4698a0d3@news.povray.org>
In article <477b1419@news.povray.org>, wampler+pov### [at] uwashingtonedu 
says...
> Darren New wrote:
> > You are sitting in a canoe, in a swimming pool, holding a cannon ball i
n 
> > your lap. You throw the cannonball overboard, and it sinks to the 
> > bottom. Does the level of water in the pool go up, go down, or stay the
 
> > same?
> 
> The water goes up (then down again) in a mostly parabolic manner since 
> the bowling ball would make a large splash :-)
> 
> I won't spoil the real answer for anyone still thinking about it, but 
> here's another fun physical puzzle that I remember:
> 
> If you've been on the beach, you've probably noticed that the sand dries
 
> out around you foot when you step on it, why is this?  Wouldn't you 
> expect a small puddle of water to form around your foot instead?
> 
It does get wetter, just *outside* the range of displacement from the 
pressure you apply to the sand. And, if you stand there long enough that 
the grains can rearrange to be less compacted, you *will* end up with 
your puddle.

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From: Paul Fuller
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 2 Jan 2008 02:41:57
Message: <477b4045@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> "Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
> news:477ad72c$1@news.povray.org...
>> You are sitting in a canoe, in a swimming pool, holding a cannon ball in
>> your lap. You throw the cannonball overboard, and it sinks to the
>> bottom. Does the level of water in the pool go up, go down, or stay the
>> same?
> 
> I believe it should stay the same.
> 
> 

Incorrect.  Hint - The cannon ball sinks to the bottom.  Think about 
what was preventing it doing so before.


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 2 Jan 2008 03:36:59
Message: <477b4d2b$1@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> It does get wetter, just *outside* the range of displacement from the 
> pressure you apply to the sand. And, if you stand there long enough that 
> the grains can rearrange to be less compacted, you *will* end up with 
> your puddle.

Indeed, but that doesn't really explain why it dries out initially. 
Contrast it with stepping in wet mud for example, or on a wet carpet. 
(as far as I understand the phenomenon, by the way, I believe that your 
explanation of why the puddle eventually forms is incorrect).


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 2 Jan 2008 03:47:37
Message: <477b4fa9@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> You are sitting in a canoe, in a swimming pool, holding a cannon ball in 
> your lap. You throw the cannonball overboard, and it sinks to the 
> bottom. Does the level of water in the pool go up, go down, or stay the 
> same?

  A classic.

  The answer can be deduced by thinking about volume and weight.

  In the canoe the ball displaces an amount of water proportional to
the weight of the ball. In the water it displaces an amount proportional
to the volume of the ball.

  So the question is basically reduced to: Which is denser, the cannonball
or water?

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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Another physical puzzle
Date: 2 Jan 2008 07:14:44
Message: <477b8034@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:

>   So the question is basically reduced to: Which is denser, the cannonball
> or water?
> 


That's where I was headed. Does the cannonball displace more
water "underwater" than in the boat, and the difference being
volume*(DENSITYcannonball-DENSITYwater)/DENSITYwater?


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