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From: Leroy
Subject: Ice storms
Date: 12 Dec 2007 23:50:05
Message: <4760B9A4.6090604@joplin.com>
If you haven't heard. Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and even a little of 
Arkansas got hit with a big ice storm. I just got my power back on after 
two days. I live in Missouri in the middle of the woods. You should have 
seen and heard all those trees limbs breaking. It was amazing!
  While surveying the fallen limbs around my house I thought that I 
heard someone coming down my drive way.(It's a quarter of a mile long) 
But no!
It was trees.
  Luckly we had only a few limbs hit the house. The chicken coop 
servived. None of the cars got damage. And we already had a electric 
genertor, just had to plug it in.


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 00:39:07
Message: <4760c57b@news.povray.org>
Leroy wrote:
> I live in Missouri in the middle of the woods.
> 

Whoa, so do I.  I'm east of Buffalo a ways--whereabouts are you?

Didn't get much ice where I live this time, though I did have a dog 
emergency one night.

About 4 am, heard the elderly chow/German shepherd/possible grizzly bear 
barking outside.  My house is on a steep hillside...deck across the 
front...steps down to a landing, patio *this* way, more steps *that* 
way...Anyway, the old dog was on the landing at the bottom of the steps, 
sprawled on his belly on the (wet, not-quite-melting) ice, one hind leg 
forward and one back, and absolutely couldn't move.  The more he 
struggled to get up, the more he slid toward a bad fall down the next 
steps down.

Couldn't stand up on the nasty stuff, had to crawl/scoot/slide to get to 
him and drag him away from the steps.  Then crawled back up, grabbed a 
blanket and a big towel--spread the blanket down the steps, got the 
towel under the dog's belly to lift him, got him started up the steps on 
the blanket...Did I mention that this dog weighs about 70 pounds and is 
quite grumpy?

Anyway, finally got him rescued and he doesn't seem to have suffered any 
ill effects.  But we're both REALLY REALLY REALLY tired of ice storms...

--Sherry "Mutt Whisperer" Shaw


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 04:19:47
Message: <op.t29n66vqc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:48:36 -0000, Leroy <lrw### [at] joplincom> did  
spake, saying:

> If you haven't heard. Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and even a little of  
> Arkansas got hit with a big ice storm. I just got my power back on after  
> two days. I live in Missouri in the middle of the woods. You should have  
> seen and heard all those trees limbs breaking. It was amazing!
>   While surveying the fallen limbs around my house I thought that I  
> heard someone coming down my drive way.(It's a quarter of a mile long)  
> But no!
> It was trees.
>   Luckly we had only a few limbs hit the house. The chicken coop  
> servived. None of the cars got damage. And we already had a electric  
> genertor, just had to plug it in.

And there I was going to complain about scraping a thin layer of ice of my  
windcreeen for the second night running.

I'm glad you're all alright.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 04:31:56
Message: <4760fc0c@news.povray.org>
"Leroy" <lrw### [at] joplincom> wrote in message
news:476### [at] joplincom...
>   While surveying the fallen limbs around my house I thought that I
> heard someone coming down my drive way.(It's a quarter of a mile long)
> But no!
> It was trees.

The trees are coming down your driveway?? ohoh...

*g*

It was the image that came to mind when I read that


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 05:42:15
Message: <47610c87$1@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> "Leroy" <lrw### [at] joplincom> wrote in message
> news:476### [at] joplincom...
>>   While surveying the fallen limbs around my house I thought that I
>> heard someone coming down my drive way.(It's a quarter of a mile long)
>> But no!
>> It was trees.
> 
> The trees are coming down your driveway?? ohoh...
> 
> *g*
> 
> It was the image that came to mind when I read that

Sounds like the Ents are marching on Isengard...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 05:50:21
Message: <47610e6d@news.povray.org>
Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Sounds like the Ents are marching on Isengard...

I was thinking Day of the Triffids...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 05:51:32
Message: <47610eb4$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:

> And there I was going to complain about scraping a thin layer of ice of 
> my windcreeen for the second night running.

Mind you, I had to scrape ice off my car after parking it outside for 1 
hour. And after I scraped it, I watched the ice grow back before my eyes.

That's actually pretty cool... if it weren't for the fact that I'm 
freezing and I need to drive home.

(Pretty cool, eh? You see what I did there?)


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 06:13:33
Message: <op.t29tgtokc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:51:31 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> And there I was going to complain about scraping a thin layer of ice of  
>> my windcreeen for the second night running.
>
> Mind you, I had to scrape ice off my car after parking it outside for 1  
> hour. And after I scraped it, I watched the ice grow back before my eyes.

Ditto. I scraped off the ice, squeegeed it off, got in the car and backed  
it around, then got out again to remove the new thinner layer of ice that  
had formed. The only annoyance I have with it is that you can't see it  
until you sit down in the car, switch the lights on and wonder if you're  
developing cataracts. At least this time I remembered where the scraper  
was.

> That's actually pretty cool... if it weren't for the fact that I'm  
> freezing and I need to drive home.
>
> (Pretty cool, eh? You see what I did there?)

Yeah yeah I'm very impressed ;-)

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 06:38:00
Message: <47611998@news.povray.org>
> Ditto. I scraped off the ice, squeegeed it off, got in the car and backed 
> it around, then got out again to remove the new thinner layer of ice that 
> had formed. The only annoyance I have with it is that you can't see it 
> until you sit down in the car, switch the lights on and wonder if you're 
> developing cataracts. At least this time I remembered where the scraper 
> was.

Just pour hot water over the ice until it's all melted, then use the wipers 
to clear the excess liquid.  That will keep the glass warm and dry enough 
until you get things warmed up.  All cars are designed to survive thermal 
shock like this, if your windscreen cracks then it would have cracked anyway 
due to the next stone that hit it or whatever...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Ice storms
Date: 13 Dec 2007 07:00:55
Message: <47611ef7$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> Just pour hot water over the ice until it's all melted, then use the 
> wipers to clear the excess liquid.  That will keep the glass warm and 
> dry enough until you get things warmed up.  All cars are designed to 
> survive thermal shock like this, if your windscreen cracks then it would 
> have cracked anyway due to the next stone that hit it or whatever...

Sorry, the school car park doesn't have any hot water. ;-)

Actually, last night while I was laying in bed, failing to be asleep, I 
wondered about something. Every time we have frost, government vehicles 
drive out and dump many billions of tonnes of salt onto the roads.

1. What the hell does that do to the cars?

2. Where does all this salt *go* to? Is this a problem?


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