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From: Darren New
Subject: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 2 Dec 2007 15:19:34
Message: <47531356@news.povray.org>
Any idea what button it is that'll open the "start menu" in KDE? That's 
the only one I've had a hard time figuring out.  (Some of our servers 
don't have mice on them, and I occasionally wind up in X on them.) I'm 
actually kind of surprised it's not mapped to the Windows key by default.

Also, what's the command-line command to log out of a KDE session?

(Also, why doesn't startx actually exit reliably when you log out of KDE 
back to runlevel 3? :-)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 2 Dec 2007 15:35:56
Message: <4753172c$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:19:33 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> Any idea what button it is that'll open the "start menu" in KDE? That's
> the only one I've had a hard time figuring out.  (Some of our servers
> don't have mice on them, and I occasionally wind up in X on them.) I'm
> actually kind of surprised it's not mapped to the Windows key by
> default.

What version of KDE?  I know that I've seen that it's mapped in GNOME 
(though oddly at the moment, that doesn't seem to be working for me here 
- ALT+F1 does, though, maybe that'll work in KDE as well - I hit that 
every once in a while by mistake when hitting ALT-F2 to launch a program 
- the GNOME equivalent of Start->Run in Windows)

> Also, what's the command-line command to log out of a KDE session?

Dunno if there is one - GNOME user that I am. :-)

> (Also, why doesn't startx actually exit reliably when you log out of KDE
> back to runlevel 3? :-)

That seems to depend on the video card.  I have no problems with this on 
my system with an nVidia card in it, but the ATI drivers have always been 
problematic for some reason.


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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 2 Dec 2007 16:00:47
Message: <op.t2p7bjt6cs6ysw@e6600>
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:19:33 +0100, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Any idea what button it is that'll open the "start menu" in KDE? That'
s  

> the only one I've had a hard time figuring out.  (Some of our servers 
 

> don't have mice on them, and I occasionally wind up in X on them.) I'm
  

> actually kind of surprised it's not mapped to the Windows key by defau
lt.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22k-menu%22+kde+shortcut+key
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/linux-shortcut-
keys-369859/


> Also, what's the command-line command to log out of a KDE session?

http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+logout+command-line
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde&m=116284415724079&w=2


> (Also, why doesn't startx actually exit reliably when you log out of K
DE  

> back to runlevel 3? :-)

Driver/resolution issue?

http://www.google.com/search?q=startx+logout+kde+%22runlevel+3%22
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=14779


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FE


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 2 Dec 2007 16:11:39
Message: <47531f8b@news.povray.org>
Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22k-menu%22+kde+shortcut+key
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/linux-shortcut-keys-369859/


I think the term "k-menu" was what I was missing before. OK. Thanks.

>> Also, what's the command-line command to log out of a KDE session?
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+logout+command-line
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde&m=116284415724079&w=2

The only advice I could ever find was basically "kill all X servers 
using Killall". Which is kind of a bad idea if you have multiple people 
using X.  Perhaps this dcop command-line thing is new.

>> (Also, why doesn't startx actually exit reliably when you log out of 
>> KDE back to runlevel 3? :-)
> 
> Driver/resolution issue?
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=startx+logout+kde+%22runlevel+3%22
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=14779

Not the problem. It comes back to the screen fine, and prints a bunch of 
error messages. I just have to hit control-C to get the prompt back. 
Then things work OK. (Pretty sure I can even restart startx.)  It just 
doesn't finish exiting, is all.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 2 Dec 2007 18:30:03
Message: <47533ffb@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> - ALT+F1 does, though, maybe that'll work in KDE as well

  It seems to work here.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 2 Dec 2007 19:49:24
Message: <47535294$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:30:03 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> - ALT+F1 does, though, maybe that'll work in KDE as well
> 
>   It seems to work here.

Cool, not being a KDE user, I wasn't sure.

Jim


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 2 Dec 2007 20:59:52
Message: <47536318$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Any idea what button it is that'll open the "start menu" in KDE? That's 
> the only one I've had a hard time figuring out.  (Some of our servers 
> don't have mice on them, and I occasionally wind up in X on them.) I'm 
> actually kind of surprised it's not mapped to the Windows key by default.
> 
> Also, what's the command-line command to log out of a KDE session?

init 0

Regards,
John
(who is kidding)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 2 Dec 2007 21:50:33
Message: <47536ef9@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > Also, what's the command-line command to log out of a KDE session?

> init 0

  I believe the idea was not to forcibly kill X but to shut it down by
its own means.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 3 Dec 2007 04:42:30
Message: <4753cf86$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> - ALT+F1 does, though, maybe that'll work in KDE as well
> 
>   It seems to work here.

*makes a note*


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Speaking of Linux keys
Date: 3 Dec 2007 19:40:12
Message: <4754a1ec@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>> Also, what's the command-line command to log out of a KDE session?
> 
>> init 0
> 
>   I believe the idea was not to forcibly kill X but to shut it down by
> its own means.

Which is why I said that I was kidding.

Regards,
John
(who was kidding)


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