http://www.n2yo.com/index.php?k=20

This URL has a google map in it. The map has a little house icon which I
assume is supposed to be me.  When I figured out it wasn't my house, I
assumed it was probably my cable company's home office.  It looks as far as
I can surmise from the satellite to be someone else's home 15 minutes from
my house. 

Is the same true for any one else (dunno if this'd work outside the states).

I wonder if this could ever cause problems.  I gripe on a web page about a
product or service, and someone figures to drive to my house and give me a
shout. They go to the wrong house.

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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> http://www.n2yo.com/index.php?k=20

That's odd.  To me it looks like you're in the middle of the park just 
south of I-90.
Charles

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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> http://www.n2yo.com/index.php?k=20
> 
> This URL has a google map in it. The map has a little house icon which I
> assume is supposed to be me.  When I figured out it wasn't my house, I
> assumed it was probably my cable company's home office.  It looks as far as
> I can surmise from the satellite to be someone else's home 15 minutes from
> my house. 
> 
> Is the same true for any one else (dunno if this'd work outside the states).
> 
> I wonder if this could ever cause problems.  I gripe on a web page about a
> product or service, and someone figures to drive to my house and give me a
> shout. They go to the wrong house.
> 
> 
If I go to that page it gives a place here in Zaanstad. I don't think 
you are living here, nor do I think that my coordinates are encoded in 
my IP packets. So I can only assume that the place they indicate is some 
sort of approximation of the server or gateway site. It seems to be 
rounded to fit in 5 characters, so look within a mile from the indicated 
point.

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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> http://www.n2yo.com/index.php?k=20
> 
> This URL has a google map in it. The map has a little house icon which I
> assume is supposed to be me.  When I figured out it wasn't my house, I
> assumed it was probably my cable company's home office.  It looks as far as
> I can surmise from the satellite to be someone else's home 15 minutes from
> my house. 
> 
> Is the same true for any one else (dunno if this'd work outside the states).
> 
> I wonder if this could ever cause problems.  I gripe on a web page about a
> product or service, and someone figures to drive to my house and give me a
> shout. They go to the wrong house.
> 
> 

For me, it shows up about a block from my apartment. Closer then I would
like. Chances are, that corner is where the big telecom company switched
me over to the local ISP or where the local guys keep some equipment. Or
it might just be rounding error.

It used to much more amusing before my ISP updated various information,
since their headquarters was over 100 miles from here. Targeted ads were
more amusing when they thought I was in the middle of no where instead
of a college town.

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Greg M. Johnson nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/12/01 22:42:
> http://www.n2yo.com/index.php?k=20
> 
> This URL has a google map in it. The map has a little house icon which I
> assume is supposed to be me.  When I figured out it wasn't my house, I
> assumed it was probably my cable company's home office.  It looks as far as
> I can surmise from the satellite to be someone else's home 15 minutes from
> my house. 
> 
> Is the same true for any one else (dunno if this'd work outside the states).
> 
> I wonder if this could ever cause problems.  I gripe on a web page about a
> product or service, and someone figures to drive to my house and give me a
> shout. They go to the wrong house.
> 
> 
Drops me in Montreal, Qc, corner Dr. Penfield and Av Du Musée.
Looking at the other replys, I can assume it points in the home city of the 
person vewing it.

-- 
Alain
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Idolism: Let's bronze this shit.

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Greg M. Johnson <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithycom> wrote:
> Is the same true for any one else (dunno if this'd work outside the states).

  Off by approximately 10 km. Might be the location of my ISP or something.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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Greg M. Johnson wrote:

> I wonder if this could ever cause problems.  I gripe on a web page about a
> product or service, and someone figures to drive to my house and give me a
> shout. They go to the wrong house.

Cool!  It's someone else's problem!

Regards,
John

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For me, this says I'm in Denver.  I'm in Salt Lake City.

Must be based on geolocating your IP address; most of the geocoding that 
takes place will use the ISP's location because that's something that can 
be looked up in Whois.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Must be based on geolocating your IP address; most of the geocoding that 
> takes place will use the ISP's location 

Not any more. There are companies that collect sign-up information that 
can be matched to IP addresses. For example, if you buy something from 
Amazon, they have your shipping address and your IP address. I know of 
companies that will sell you the service of looking up the zipcode 
associated with a given IP address, which I understand they get by 
collecting such pairs and doing the appropriate analysis on them.

Pretty funky idea. :)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.

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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:05:13 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> Not any more. There are companies that collect sign-up information that
> can be matched to IP addresses. For example, if you buy something from
> Amazon, they have your shipping address and your IP address. I know of
> companies that will sell you the service of looking up the zipcode
> associated with a given IP address, which I understand they get by
> collecting such pairs and doing the appropriate analysis on them.

Interesting, hadn't thought about that, but that makes sense.  Still, 
even using geobytes (which seems to be one of the more sophisticated 
tools), they still put me in Denver.

Jim

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OK correction from my earlier post - it looks like *I* am in another 
state from my own.  Not just a few minutes away, but several hours.
Charles

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Charles C wrote:
> OK correction from my earlier post - it looks like *I* am in another 
> state from my own.  Not just a few minutes away, but several hours.

I suppose I should also mention that my detected IP address on the page 
is not the one my ISP assigned me. Hmm.
Charles

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Jim Henderson nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/12/02 14:27:
> For me, this says I'm in Denver.  I'm in Salt Lake City.
> 
> Must be based on geolocating your IP address; most of the geocoding that 
> takes place will use the ISP's location because that's something that can 
> be looked up in Whois.
> 
> Jim
In that case, it would place me in Toronto. The location I get have NO 
relationship to the location associated with my IP or the location of my ISP's 
two places of business.

-- 
Alain
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Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government.
Thomas Jefferson

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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:35:03 -0800, Charles C wrote:

> OK correction from my earlier post - it looks like *I* am in another
> state from my own.  Not just a few minutes away, but several hours.
> Charles

LOL, maybe that's my problem, too!

Jim

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:15:41 -0500, Alain wrote:

> Jim Henderson nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/12/02 14:27:
>> For me, this says I'm in Denver.  I'm in Salt Lake City.
>> 
>> Must be based on geolocating your IP address; most of the geocoding
>> that takes place will use the ISP's location because that's something
>> that can be looked up in Whois.
>> 
>> Jim
> In that case, it would place me in Toronto. The location I get have NO
> relationship to the location associated with my IP or the location of my
> ISP's two places of business.

Interesting; you don't happen to be an Alain that I know and have worked 
with?

Do the names "Spark National" or "Finnitech" have meaning to you?

Jim

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Jim Henderson nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/12/03 12:48:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:15:41 -0500, Alain wrote:
> 
>> Jim Henderson nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/12/02 14:27:
>>> For me, this says I'm in Denver.  I'm in Salt Lake City.
>>>
>>> Must be based on geolocating your IP address; most of the geocoding
>>> that takes place will use the ISP's location because that's something
>>> that can be looked up in Whois.
>>>
>>> Jim
>> In that case, it would place me in Toronto. The location I get have NO
>> relationship to the location associated with my IP or the location of my
>> ISP's two places of business.
> 
> Interesting; you don't happen to be an Alain that I know and have worked 
> with?
Don't think so.
> 
> Do the names "Spark National" or "Finnitech" have meaning to you?
Not at all.
> 
> Jim
Looking at canada411.com, I get 86 Alain Martel... 4 in Montreal.
Once, I was in a place with 2 others who had my name, it was prety confusing.

-- 
Alain
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You know you've been raytracing too long when you prefer bald romatic partners, 
because they're easier to model.
John VanSickle

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:35:39 -0500, Alain wrote:

> Jim Henderson nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/12/03 12:48:
>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:15:41 -0500, Alain wrote:
>> 
>>> Jim Henderson nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/12/02 14:27:
>>>> For me, this says I'm in Denver.  I'm in Salt Lake City.
>>>>
>>>> Must be based on geolocating your IP address; most of the geocoding
>>>> that takes place will use the ISP's location because that's something
>>>> that can be looked up in Whois.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>> In that case, it would place me in Toronto. The location I get have NO
>>> relationship to the location associated with my IP or the location of
>>> my ISP's two places of business.
>> 
>> Interesting; you don't happen to be an Alain that I know and have
>> worked with?
> Don't think so.
>> 
>> Do the names "Spark National" or "Finnitech" have meaning to you?
> Not at all.
>> 
>> Jim
> Looking at canada411.com, I get 86 Alain Martel... 4 in Montreal. Once,
> I was in a place with 2 others who had my name, it was prety confusing.

Would've definitely been a small world thing if it had - I wasn't sure 
how common the name is. :-)

Jim

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:35:03 -0800, Charles C wrote:
>
> > OK correction from my earlier post - it looks like *I* am in another
> > state from my own.  Not just a few minutes away, but several hours.
> > Charles
>
> LOL, maybe that's my problem, too!
>
> Jim

Wow, It seems that I'm near Portland, Oregon (U.S.)
I don't recall how I got there/here.

I hope the missus isn't going to be too miffed that I'm late for dinner.

I wonder if I can get home in 45 minutes? It usually take me at least 25.

Leef_me

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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:20:07 -0500, Leef_me wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:35:03 -0800, Charles C wrote:
>>
>> > OK correction from my earlier post - it looks like *I* am in another
>> > state from my own.  Not just a few minutes away, but several hours.
>> > Charles
>>
>> LOL, maybe that's my problem, too!
>>
>> Jim
> 
> Wow, It seems that I'm near Portland, Oregon (U.S.) I don't recall how I
> got there/here.
> 
> I hope the missus isn't going to be too miffed that I'm late for dinner.
> 
> I wonder if I can get home in 45 minutes? It usually take me at least
> 25.
> 
> Leef_me

ISTR that when I'm in the office, the internet connection there 
identifies as being in San Jose; so if I work in San Jose and live in 
Denver, that's one heck of a commute, even twice a week.

Granted, my boss lives in Toronto and commutes in once or twice a month 
(for a week) to Provo, UT, and her boss lives in Sarasota, FL and does 
the same, so relatively speaking, I'm not traveling as far, but it sure 
doesn't feel like the distance between San Jose and Denver that two times 
a week.  Covering that distance in 45 minutes is pretty impressive - 
especially considering that I drive and I've never received a ticket for 
speeding on that drive...

(Doesn't mean I don't 'drive with traffic' which is usually 80 MPH)

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> For me, this says I'm in Denver.  I'm in Salt Lake City.
> 
> Must be based on geolocating your IP address; most of the geocoding that 
> takes place will use the ISP's location because that's something that can 
> be looked up in Whois.
> 
> Jim

(old, yes, but I'll still answer)

It hits straight bulls-eye to the local phone firm (Ainacom), which owns
the cabling around this area, so also the cable which is rented to
another ISP (Sonera) to provide a link for me. Intresting part is that
my IP-series comes from Sonera's pool, not from Ainacoms pool.

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
   http://www.zbxt.net
      aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid

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