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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: A painful mystery
Date: 1 Dec 2007 06:43:48
Message: <475148f4$1@news.povray.org>
When I woke on Thursday morning, I was aware of having a really rather 
stiff neck. It turns to turn my head to either side. And I have no idea why.

On Friday morning, it got a little better. It didn't hurt as much then.

On Friday night, I finally took some painkillers. And mum made me do 
some washing up.

This morning, I woke up and discovered that my left shoulder is now in 
absolute agony. I mean, on Thursday my neck was a bit stiff, but 
*nothing* like this. Each time I move in a certain way, I get sharp 
stabbing pains in my left shoulder. (Not my neck, my shoulder now.)

And it's not even when I move my left arm. When I swallow liquid my 
shoulder hurts. When I left my right knee to take a step, my shoulder 
hurts. When I turn my hips, my shoulder hurts. And yet, I can actually 
still lift moderately heavy items with my left arm without any pain at 
all. WTF?

Several questions immediately spring to mind:

1. Why the hell was my neck stiff in the first place?

2. Why has my shoulder suddenly started hurting when it was getting 
better before?

3. Why does moving parts of my body unrelated to my shoulder make my 
shoulder hurt?

4. How can I find a position where my shoulder stops hurting?

5. What can I do to make it heal faster?


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: A painful mystery
Date: 1 Dec 2007 07:10:00
Message: <web.47514ed694055eb42cc68db20@news.povray.org>
"it only hurts when I breath" :P

That reminds me of one day in my youth when I woke up, had a bad turn of the
head (almost with a "click") and passed the next few days with my head turned
to the right side.  WTF?! Why did it happen?  I don't know and it never
happened again, thankfully.

Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> 5. What can I do to make it heal faster?

give time to time?  algo, get away from the keyboard... :)


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From: Vincent Le Chevalier
Subject: Re: A painful mystery
Date: 1 Dec 2007 07:27:50
Message: <47515346$1@news.povray.org>

> 1. Why the hell was my neck stiff in the first place?
> 

There are so many things that can go wrong in this part of the body...

> 2. Why has my shoulder suddenly started hurting when it was getting 
> better before?
> 

Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I generally avoid painkillers in these 
case, because by suppressing the pain signal it's possible that things 
get worse. It allows you to move better, but moving is not necessarily 
the wisest thing to do... And so something else can start to hurt.

> 3. Why does moving parts of my body unrelated to my shoulder make my 
> shoulder hurt?
> 

Because they are related :-)

Seriously, it's possible that some kind of twist in your spine at the 
neck level (or just below) pinched a nerve that goes to the shoulder, so 
that the pain in your shoulder is in fact caused by certain positions or 
forces in your spine.

And the vertebral column works for nearly every move you make...

> 5. What can I do to make it heal faster?

Whith this kind of things giving time to time is a good solution, as 
nemesis said. Try not to rest in a position that puts stress on your 
spine. Try to relax even if it's not easy. Some very limited stretching 
can help in certain cases but it can also be dangerous...

Overall I'm not sure Internet forums are the right place for a medical 
diagnostic ;-) I know there are doctors that specialize in these 
problems and can do wonders if time does not make things better, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic

-- 
Vincent


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: A painful mystery
Date: 1 Dec 2007 11:27:31
Message: <47518b73$1@news.povray.org>
Go see a chiropractor as soo as possible!

Orchid XP v7 nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/12/01 06:43:
> When I woke on Thursday morning, I was aware of having a really rather 
> stiff neck. It turns to turn my head to either side. And I have no idea 
> why.
> 
> On Friday morning, it got a little better. It didn't hurt as much then.
> 
> On Friday night, I finally took some painkillers. And mum made me do 
> some washing up.
> 
> This morning, I woke up and discovered that my left shoulder is now in 
> absolute agony. I mean, on Thursday my neck was a bit stiff, but 
> *nothing* like this. Each time I move in a certain way, I get sharp 
> stabbing pains in my left shoulder. (Not my neck, my shoulder now.)
> 
> And it's not even when I move my left arm. When I swallow liquid my 
> shoulder hurts. When I left my right knee to take a step, my shoulder 
> hurts. When I turn my hips, my shoulder hurts. And yet, I can actually 
> still lift moderately heavy items with my left arm without any pain at 
> all. WTF?
> 
> Several questions immediately spring to mind:
> 
> 1. Why the hell was my neck stiff in the first place?
Bad sleeping position? A cold draft?
> 
> 2. Why has my shoulder suddenly started hurting when it was getting 
> better before?
Mabe the painkiller allowed you to make some moves that caused it.
> 
> 3. Why does moving parts of my body unrelated to my shoulder make my 
> shoulder hurt?
Missaligned vertebras. Pinched nerves. Other...
> 
> 4. How can I find a position where my shoulder stops hurting?
TRY to relax. Move slowly in the path of less pain until you find it.
> 
> 5. What can I do to make it heal faster?

Go see a chiropractor as soo as possible! They are THE specialists for the spine 
and articulations. At times, ther work can look almost miraculous. I know by 
experiance :)

In the mean time, try applying some hot and cold pads in alternance. The hot 
will increase blood circulation. The cold help reduce any inflamation and will 
dull the pain.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
Getting the job done is no excuse for not following the rules.


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: A painful mystery
Date: 1 Dec 2007 14:59:19
Message: <4751bd17$1@news.povray.org>
> Several questions immediately spring to mind:
>
> 1. Why the hell was my neck stiff in the first place?
>
> 2. Why has my shoulder suddenly started hurting when it was getting better 
> before?
>
> 3. Why does moving parts of my body unrelated to my shoulder make my 
> shoulder hurt?
>
> 4. How can I find a position where my shoulder stops hurting?
>
> 5. What can I do to make it heal faster?

You should probably check your temperature and take some asprin.
There's any number of nasty bugs that can cause shoulder
and neck pain, but most of them have fever involved.

Other than that it probably is just a pinched nerve, but could
easily be something nasty anyways, like a minor heart attack.
(blood clotting).  Don't be shy about going to the doctor.


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: A painful mystery
Date: 1 Dec 2007 16:29:44
Message: <4751d248@news.povray.org>
Any pain that has no apparent cause (like getting tackled hard in 
sports) is a matter for competent medical attention.  The body is not 
supposed to suddenly start hurting for no apparent reason.

If you always sleep in a funny position, or if, for instance, your head 
is always turned while you are using your computer, that could be the cause.

But if you're not doing anything uncomfortable, and you hurt, see a doctor.

Regards,
John


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: A painful mystery
Date: 1 Dec 2007 22:12:13
Message: <4752228d@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle wrote:
> If you always sleep in a funny position,

Even if you occasionally (once) slept in a bad position, you can wake up 
with a severely stiff neck and/or shoulder.

> or if, for instance, your head 
> is always turned while you are using your computer, 

Ah, Durango-Neck!  I know it well!

http://www.sydex.com/durango/durango.html


-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: A painful mystery
Date: 3 Dec 2007 04:44:58
Message: <4753d01a@news.povray.org>
And having ruined my entire weekend, today my neck is almost back to 
normal, just in time for me to go back to work. :-/


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: A painful mystery
Date: 3 Dec 2007 06:16:40
Message: <4753e598$1@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:
> Go see a chiropractor as soo as possible! They are THE specialists for 
> the spine and articulations. At times, ther work can look almost 
> miraculous. I know by experiance :)

I agree, if it recurs (I note you said you feel better now). I had a 
trapped nerve in my neck four years ago that exhibited almost the exact 
symptoms you describe, only it didn't go away. Instead it steadily got 
more and more painful and I lost more use of my arm (as you describe, 
only certain muscle groups in the shoulder). I went to a chiropracter, 
and I felt almost completely normal within 3 or 4 weeks of treatment, 
although it took a while to rebuild my shoulder muscle.

I still go for check-ups several times a year and always leave feeling 
invigorated for the muscle-pounding and spine cracking I receive!


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