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From: Shay
Subject: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 26 Nov 2007 18:36:07
Message: <474b5867@news.povray.org>
"Stradlater was more of a secret slob. He always looked all right, 
Stradlater, but for instance, you should've seen the razor he shaved 
himself with. It was always rusty as hell and full of lather and hairs 
and crap. He never cleaned it or anything. He always looked good when he 
was finished fixing himself up, but he was a secret slob anyway, if you 
knew him the way I did."

I have remembered that quote since sometime in High School. It pops into 
my head every so often, and on those occasions, I make a note to look up 
the book from which it was taken and read it - this I have forgotten to 
do for 15+ years.

_The Catcher in the Rye_. I finally remembered to look it up. I have NO 
interest in reading it.

What a waste.

  -Shay


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 26 Nov 2007 21:05:00
Message: <web.474b7a834faea65b1a6e2b5c0@news.povray.org>
it's a good book.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 27 Nov 2007 04:30:01
Message: <web.474be32d4faea65bc4e49fa40@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> it's a good book.

So it is but it might be a bit dated by now.
I also liked Franny And Zooey by the same author.
My favourite line(s) is.
Oh snail, climb Mt. Fuji, but slowly, slowly.
Unfortunately (I think), it is by the Japanese poet Issa (1763-1827).
That line has been with me for nearly forty years.



Stephen


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 27 Nov 2007 05:15:00
Message: <web.474bed794faea65b99be1d360@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> wrote:
> "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > it's a good book.
>
> So it is but it might be a bit dated by now.

the correct term is:  a classic. ;)

dated, but every bit as enjoyable as any classic.  Holden Caulfield's grim view
of life and everyday observations still hold quite well...


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 27 Nov 2007 05:29:45
Message: <474bf199$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> wrote:
>> "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> it's a good book.
>> So it is but it might be a bit dated by now.
> 
> the correct term is:  a classic. ;)

A classic: something everybody wants to have read but nobody wants to read.

;-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 27 Nov 2007 05:50:01
Message: <web.474bf5674faea65bc4e49fa40@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> wrote:
> > "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > > it's a good book.
> >
> > So it is but it might be a bit dated by now.
>
> the correct term is:  a classic. ;)
>
> dated, but every bit as enjoyable as any classic.  Holden Caulfield's grim view
> of life and everyday observations still hold quite well...


Note the date :)


Stephen


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From: Ross
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 27 Nov 2007 13:14:43
Message: <474c5e93$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:474bf199$1@news.povray.org...
> nemesis wrote:
>> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> wrote:
>>> "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>>> it's a good book.
>>> So it is but it might be a bit dated by now.
>>
>> the correct term is:  a classic. ;)
>
> A classic: something everybody wants to have read but nobody wants to 
> read.
>
> ;-)

I thought it was standard highschool required reading.


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 27 Nov 2007 14:37:16
Message: <474c71ec$1@news.povray.org>
Ross wrote:
> "Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
> news:474bf199$1@news.povray.org...
>> A classic: something everybody wants to have read but nobody wants to 
>> read.
>>
>> ;-)
> 
> I thought it was standard highschool required reading. 

I think you both said the same thing.  =)


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From: Ross
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 27 Nov 2007 15:53:11
Message: <474c83b7$1@news.povray.org>
"Sabrina Kilian" <"ykgp at vtSPAM.edu"> wrote in message 
news:474c71ec$1@news.povray.org...
> Ross wrote:
>> "Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
>> news:474bf199$1@news.povray.org...
>>> A classic: something everybody wants to have read but nobody wants to
>>> read.
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>
>> I thought it was standard highschool required reading.
>
> I think you both said the same thing.  =)

hehe


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Held onto it for over 15 years -- for NOTHING!
Date: 27 Nov 2007 18:37:29
Message: <474caa39$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
 > it's a good book.
 >

Perhaps, and I do have a lot in common with what I know of the main 
character - though I dropped out a LOT further than he did. I enjoyed 
that time in my life, but I feel kind of "been there, done that" about 
the whole thing.

I imagine this book is very popular with the sexually obsessed - those 
who view adolescence as the greatest time in life because adolescence is 
the most sexually focused. These are the same people who look down their 
noses at Houston because the sexual opportunities here (for affluent, 
Caucasian liberals) are not as obvious or frequent as those in "cooler" 
cities. I believe this is the type who choose "The Classics."

Similarly, I was at my niece's 13th b-day party recently and saw that my 
niece and her friends were listening to the Violent Femmes, a band who 
put out ONE album in the early 80s and have been milking it ever since. 
Reasonably catchy music, but the only reason it's survived to this day 
is that, in 1983, kids like myself were titillated by the word "fu**" in 
the band's most popular song - a "Classic" was born.

  -Shay


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