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From: andrel
Subject: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 15:46:47
Message: <472CDF40.5030007@hotmail.com>
My wife got me a USB turntable for my birthday. Her idea was that I 
could then convert my old record collection to mp3s. I got no good 
response to my question if she also could provide the time to do that 
(current estimate: 200+ hours or a full year's free time).

I am a big fan of Eric Bogle, and that indeed dates back to the PVC 
time, so I had little opportunity to play some of my favorite albums. So 
one of my first albums to mp3 was "When the wind blows" 
(http://www.amazon.com/When-Wind-Blows-Eric-Bogle/dp/B0000279Y4)
highly recommended, but not very available, it seems.

On the album sleeve is this text about "the enigma": "I've had one or 
two friends who have shuffled off this mortal coil sideways. It has 
always come as a complete shock to everybody involved. How little we 
really know about what goes on in the minds and hearts of our friend and 
lovers". Apart from the strange "one or two" I was wondering if 
"shuffling off this mortal coil sideways" is a common expression or just 
another boglian invention?
I find this song moving everytime I hear it, partly because it is about 
an Andrew/Andy committing suicide (as if you did not understand 
that)*,**. On the album it is followed by "Little Gomez" a funny up 
tempo song, talking about mood swings... To quote Eric a second time 
from the sleeve cover: "Little Gomez- I wrote a song called 'He is 
Nobody's Moggy Now' in 1992 which alienated every cat lover in the 
Southern Hemisphere, and a fair proportion in the Northern Hemisphere as 
well. Greedy sod that I am, I could not rest till I'd alienated all the 
dog-lovers as well. This should do it."

* Full lyrics of the enigma available at: 
http://ericbogle.net/lyrics/lyricspdf/theenigma.pdf
** it is on my funeral play list with the remark to include it in the 
case of suicide.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 17:02:43
Message: <472cf003@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> My wife got me a USB turntable for my birthday.

  A wife who not only is ok with her husband being a computer nerd,
but also knows something about computers herself and even goes as far
as buying gifts which could actually be useful?

  Where do I find such women?

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 17:03:33
Message: <472cf035$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Where do I find such women?

Behind me in the queue. :-P


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 17:05:19
Message: <472cf09f$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:02:43 -0500, Warp wrote:

> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> My wife got me a USB turntable for my birthday.
> 
>   A wife who not only is ok with her husband being a computer nerd,
> but also knows something about computers herself and even goes as far as
> buying gifts which could actually be useful?
> 
>   Where do I find such women?

They're around - I found my wife at a radio station (well, she found me, 
truth be told).  :-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 17:05:38
Message: <472cf0b2$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:03:44 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

> Warp wrote:
> 
>>   Where do I find such women?
> 
> Behind me in the queue. :-P

Turn around and say 'hi'! ;-)

Jim


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 21:04:43
Message: <472d28bb$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:03:44 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> 
>> Warp wrote:
>>
>>>   Where do I find such women?
>> Behind me in the queue. :-P
> 
> Turn around and say 'hi'! ;-)

I was thinking the same thing.

-- 
Tim Cook
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-empyrean

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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 21:06:24
Message: <472d2920$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> My wife got me a USB turntable for my birthday. Her idea was that I 
> could then convert my old record collection to mp3s. I got no good 
> response to my question if she also could provide the time to do that 
> (current estimate: 200+ hours or a full year's free time).

You're going to commit the blasphemy of downgrading your vinyl to 
digital?  That sound you just heard is a hundred audiophiles crying out 
in agony at once.  ;)  (Supposedly vinyl is the end-all, be-all of 
quality in the audio enjoyment scene.)

-- 
Tim Cook
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-empyrean

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 21:08:25
Message: <472d2997@news.povray.org>
Tim Cook <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote:
> You're going to commit the blasphemy of downgrading your vinyl to 
> digital?  That sound you just heard is a hundred audiophiles crying out 
> in agony at once.  ;)  (Supposedly vinyl is the end-all, be-all of 
> quality in the audio enjoyment scene.)

  The problem with vinyl is that listening to it wears it out, degrading
its quality over time. Thus it cannot be listened too often, if at all.

  At least with an mp3 version you can have fond memories of what the
original might sound like...

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 3 Nov 2007 21:36:27
Message: <472d302b@news.povray.org>
Warp escribió:
> Tim Cook <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote:
>> You're going to commit the blasphemy of downgrading your vinyl to 
>> digital?  That sound you just heard is a hundred audiophiles crying out 
>> in agony at once.  ;)  (Supposedly vinyl is the end-all, be-all of 
>> quality in the audio enjoyment scene.)
> 
>   At least with an mp3 version you can have fond memories of what the
> original might sound like...
> 

And with a FLAC version he will have no doubt it's exactly how it 
sounded when he converted it. But I guess it's hardly worth it for a 
vinyl :)


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 4 Nov 2007 04:36:55
Message: <472D93C1.1010108@hotmail.com>
Warp wrote:
> Tim Cook <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote:
>> You're going to commit the blasphemy of downgrading your vinyl to 
>> digital?  That sound you just heard is a hundred audiophiles crying out 
>> in agony at once.  ;)  (Supposedly vinyl is the end-all, be-all of 
>> quality in the audio enjoyment scene.)
> 
>   The problem with vinyl is that listening to it wears it out, degrading
> its quality over time. Thus it cannot be listened too often, if at all.
> 
>   At least with an mp3 version you can have fond memories of what the
> original might sound like...
> 
*And* you still have the vinyl version in its original state.


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 4 Nov 2007 11:51:34
Message: <Xns99DEB59E139E3seed7@news.povray.org>
in news:472d2997@news.povray.org Warp wrote:

>   The problem with vinyl is that listening to it wears it out,
>   degrading 
> its quality over time. Thus it cannot be listened too often, if at
> all. 

Hmmm, I could start about the choise of the right needles heer, Shibata, 
vanden Hul, or talk about tonearm setup etc. Fact is though that many of 
my records still play without noise or clicks even though many come from 
the 70's and aren't pressed in the best possible way. 

> 
>   At least with an mp3 version you can have fond memories of what the
> original might sound like...
> 

You would be amazed how much great old and new music is still only 
available on vinyl.


ingo


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 4 Nov 2007 12:00:01
Message: <web.472df8f83350858c5b922c2d0@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> On the album sleeve is this text about "the enigma": "I've had one or
> two friends who have shuffled off this mortal coil sideways. It has
> always come as a complete shock to everybody involved. How little we
> really know about what goes on in the minds and hearts of our friend and
> lovers". Apart from the strange "one or two" I was wondering if
> "shuffling off this mortal coil sideways" is a common expression or just
> another boglian invention?

I doubt it is his personal invention though somewhat uncommon term, due to
rampant spiritual ignorance on Earth.


My interpretation:

".... shuffled off this mortal coil sideways" is in reference to death without
purpose or destination.

"Chakra" centers are vortices of energy and paths. They have names. Original
names are not well known for previously stated reason. (something about
believing mythology is myth, it is not)

The 7th chakra is called the doorway home. exit: top of head. Sideways is
leaving thru another, usually the 3rd chakra, yellow, called many things, from
control to pool of emotion.


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From: M a r c
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 4 Nov 2007 12:07:16
Message: <472dfc44$1@news.povray.org>
"ingo" <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> a écrit dans le message de news: 
Xns99DEB59E139E3seed7@news.povray.org...
>>
>
> You would be amazed how much great old and new music is still only
> available on vinyl.
>
Not very handy to listen while driving or jogging or biking or...

Marc


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 4 Nov 2007 14:51:38
Message: <472e22ca@news.povray.org>
"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
472### [at] hotmailcom...

> "shuffling off this mortal coil sideways" is a common expression or just

Well, "to shuffle off this mortal coil" is right from Hamlet, so he just 
added the sideways part.

G.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 4 Nov 2007 15:56:19
Message: <472E32FD.30206@hotmail.com>
Gilles Tran wrote:
> "andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
> 472### [at] hotmailcom...
> 
>> "shuffling off this mortal coil sideways" is a common expression or just
> 
> Well, "to shuffle off this mortal coil" is right from Hamlet, so he just 
> added the sideways part.
> 
It may not have been totally clear but my question was indeed if the 
'sideways' was his invention or a more common one.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 4 Nov 2007 20:50:00
Message: <web.472e768a3350858c5b922c2d0@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> It may not have been totally clear but my question was indeed if the
> 'sideways' was his invention or a more common one.


We can only speculate since he is not here. But I thought "sideways"
made perfect sense, though HIS meaning may be different. who knows...

the info comes from a trustable authority and is ...
(Probably should not say this)
not human.

that will be a hard swallow for only the closed minded.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 5 Nov 2007 16:29:58
Message: <472F8C60.8030104@hotmail.com>
alphaQuad wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
>> It may not have been totally clear but my question was indeed if the
>> 'sideways' was his invention or a more common one.
> 
> 
> We can only speculate since he is not here. But I thought "sideways"
> made perfect sense, though HIS meaning may be different. who knows...

I thought your explanation was interesting.

> the info comes from a trustable authority and is ...
> (Probably should not say this)
why not?
> not human.
> 
> that will be a hard swallow for only the closed minded.
> 

 From context this seems to imply that those who believe in a 
supernatural being are open minded. ;)


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 6 Nov 2007 02:33:05
Message: <473018b1@news.povray.org>
Not really sure, but it might be a drug reference.

up = speed,
down = depressants,
sideways = hallucinogens

Therefore, it might mean a hallucination about death.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: shuffling off this mortal coil sideways
Date: 6 Nov 2007 14:22:26
Message: <4730BFFC.4080508@hotmail.com>
Tim Attwood wrote:
> Not really sure, but it might be a drug reference.
> 
> up = speed,
> down = depressants,
> sideways = hallucinogens
> 
> Therefore, it might mean a hallucination about death. 
> 
> 
also an interesting though. In 1987 when he wrote it he was about 43, so 
not likely, I guess (no other bogle fans here apparently :( because he 
wrote nobody's moggy in 1982 (a small typo of mine, or perhaps a thinko 
as I could hardly believe that song was 25 years old))


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