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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 15:08:46
Message: <470145be$1@news.povray.org>
Apparently she hasn't been answering my calls because she's been in 
Japan for the last few days, and she accidentally left her phone on her 
desk at work. (She has a desk???) But she's back now, and only has 11 
days to hand in her PhD thesis.

And then she's going to the Dominican Republic for a holiday. For a month.

On the other hand, apparently the moving house has fallen through, and 
since it's now the start of "the build season" she can't be bothered to 
look for anywhere else right now, so she's staying put. (But for how 
long? Hmm.)

Anyway, she just phoned me, so at least now I finally know what her 
voice sounds like. Indeed, talking to her on the phone, I am left with 
the very strong feeling that I most definitely want to have *a lot* more 
to do with this girl. I don't know if I'll ever get into her pants, but 
she's so lovely it'd be great just to be friends... if I can ever get 
hold of the girl! :-/

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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 15:16:34
Message: <47014792@news.povray.org>
I rolled eyes just after seeing the message subject, while waiting for 
the message itself to load.

Anyway, sounds like good news :)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 15:21:23
Message: <470148b3$1@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> Anyway, she just phoned me, so at least now I finally know what her voice 
> sounds like. Indeed, talking to her on the phone, I am left with the very 
> strong feeling that I most definitely want to have *a lot* more to do with 
> this girl. I don't know if I'll ever get into her pants, but she's so 
> lovely it'd be great just to be friends... if I can ever get hold of the 
> girl! :-/

    Wooah. One of the sentences in that last paragraph is SO wrong Andrew. 
Re-read it as if 'she' was reading it.

      ~Steve~


>
> -- 
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 16:04:17
Message: <470152c1$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:21:18 +0100, St. wrote:

>     Wooah. One of the sentences in that last paragraph is SO wrong
>     Andrew.
> Re-read it as if 'she' was reading it.

I wasn't the only one thinking that.....

Jim


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From: M a r c
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 16:25:53
Message: <470157d1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
470152c1$1@news.povray.org...
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:21:18 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>>     Wooah. One of the sentences in that last paragraph is SO wrong
>>     Andrew.
>> Re-read it as if 'she' was reading it.
>
> I wasn't the only one thinking that.....
>
+1

Marc


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 16:59:14
Message: <47015fa2$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:

>     Wooah. One of the sentences in that last paragraph is SO wrong Andrew. 
> Re-read it as if 'she' was reading it.

Hmm. I think you're taking me a tad too seriously...

(Knowing the girl in question, she'd probably just laugh. She works with 
petrol-heads all day, after all...)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 17:01:26
Message: <47016026$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:59:43 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> St. wrote:
> 
>>     Wooah. One of the sentences in that last paragraph is SO wrong
>>     Andrew.
>> Re-read it as if 'she' was reading it.
> 
> Hmm. I think you're taking me a tad too seriously...
> 
> (Knowing the girl in question, she'd probably just laugh. She works with
> petrol-heads all day, after all...)

We're just saying it's a matter of presentation, but still, if it's 
something she'd laugh off, that's less of a problem. :-)

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 18:08:57
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> St. wrote:
>
>>     Wooah. One of the sentences in that last paragraph is SO wrong 
>> Andrew. Re-read it as if 'she' was reading it.
>
> Hmm. I think you're taking me a tad too seriously...

     Hmm... Good luck.

         ~Steve~




> -- 
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 1 Oct 2007 22:20:49
Message: <4701ab01@news.povray.org>
Why does this remind me of densha otoko?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 2 Oct 2007 15:41:39
Message: <47029FF3.2010809@hotmail.com>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> St. wrote:
> 
>>     Wooah. One of the sentences in that last paragraph is SO wrong 
>> Andrew. Re-read it as if 'she' was reading it.
> 
> Hmm. I think you're taking me a tad too seriously...
No, we just care for our mascot. Which reminds me...
did you already propose yourself as a mascot for their F1 team?
You do have a reputation in that area.

> 
> (Knowing the girl in question, she'd probably just laugh. 
Don't be too sure about that...
> She works with petrol-heads all day, after all...)
...there may be a reason for her not having a boyfriend among those.


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 2 Oct 2007 15:51:23
Message: <4702a13b$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

>> Hmm. I think you're taking me a tad too seriously...

> No, we just care for our mascot.

Ah, I *see*... So the constant criticising and belittling is becuase you 
guys actually *like* me? I was confused about that part...

> Which reminds me...
> did you already propose yourself as a mascot for their F1 team?
> You do have a reputation in that area.

LOL!

>> (Knowing the girl in question, she'd probably just laugh. 
> Don't be too sure about that...
>> She works with petrol-heads all day, after all...)
> ...there may be a reason for her not having a boyfriend among those.

Yeah, I was wondering about that... Clearly very extravert and 
self-confident girl, bursting with attractiveness, spends all day 
working with blokes... and she's... single? WTH??

-- 
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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 2 Oct 2007 15:58:07
Message: <4702A3CF.4030009@hotmail.com>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> andrel wrote:
> 
>>> Hmm. I think you're taking me a tad too seriously...
> 
>> No, we just care for our mascot.
> 
> Ah, I *see*... So the constant criticising and belittling is because you 
> guys actually *like* me? 
yes. (The fact that you might stop bothering us when you have finally 
found a nice girl might play a role too.)
> I was confused about that part...
> 
We said so time and time again, but if you did not believe us then, why 
would you now?


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 2 Oct 2007 16:35:06
Message: <4702ab7a$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

>> Ah, I *see*... So the constant criticising and belittling is because 
>> you guys actually *like* me? 
> yes. (The fact that you might stop bothering us when you have finally 
> found a nice girl might play a role too.)

And to think I was worried about this:

http://www.xkcd.com/306/

Hey, wait...! o_O

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 2 Oct 2007 19:04:14
Message: <4702ce6e$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:51:54 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

>> No, we just care for our mascot.
> 
> Ah, I *see*... So the constant criticising and belittling is becuase you
> guys actually *like* me? I was confused about that part...

Well, speaking for myself, it's never my intention to criticise or 
belittle you - but I can see how maybe it comes across that way sometimes.

It's just that when you make what (with a little more experience) is 
possibly a critical mistake, I at least am trying to speak up and say 
"been there, done that, it doesn't work (or didn't for me)" emphatically 
enough.

I was talking with my wife about this yesterday or the day before, 
actually, and it occurred to me that you're probably not at the point yet 
where you've made the mistakes that some of the rest of us have already 
learned from (like the comment about "getting into her pants"), but that 
maybe you say things like that here to see what the reaction is because 
this is a "safe" place for that kind of experimentation.

Or maybe not.

But either way, don't stop trying things out.  That's IMHO the best way 
to learn.

As for why she's still single - some people are strongly averse to dating 
in the workplace, because if you break up, that makes it more difficult - 
you still see them every day, even possibly have to work with them every 
day.  Some people aren't comfortable with that thought or idea.

Some employers expressly forbid dating coworkers - though it's not as 
common now as it used to be, I think; my dad's first wife was a woman he 
worked with, and they had to elope to get married - couldn't let anyone 
in the office know they were dating.  She quit once they got married.

When I started working for Novell, though, there was a couple in the 
training sales department who were married (and, coincidentally, also 
shared the same surname as I - but no relation).

Some people who are extroverted also like having a relationship outside 
of the environment where they "have" to be "on" all the time; a good 
friend of mine in the UK is very extroverted when he's with a group of 
people, but when he's with family (and we are fortunate enough that he 
considers us family) he is a lot less outspoken - and he's commented that 
it's nice to not have to be "on" all the time.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 2 Oct 2007 21:38:48
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:04:14 -0400, Jim Henderson wrote:

> But either way, don't stop trying things out.  That's IMHO the best way
> to learn.

Let me rephrase - trying things out is the second best way to learn, but 
the most effective way to learn.

The best way to learn is to learn from other people's mistakes - but 
often times the lessons of other people's mistakes don't stick with you 
as well as your own.

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 3 Oct 2007 16:53:34
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Jim Henderson wrote:

> I was talking with my wife about this yesterday or the day before, 
> actually, and it occurred to me that you're probably not at the point yet 
> where you've made the mistakes that some of the rest of us have already 
> learned from (like the comment about "getting into her pants"), but that 
> maybe you say things like that here to see what the reaction is because 
> this is a "safe" place for that kind of experimentation.
> 
> Or maybe not.

Actually I was exaggerating, but anyway... :-.

-- 
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 3 Oct 2007 17:05:49
Message: <4704042d$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:54:06 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> I was talking with my wife about this yesterday or the day before,
>> actually, and it occurred to me that you're probably not at the point
>> yet where you've made the mistakes that some of the rest of us have
>> already learned from (like the comment about "getting into her pants"),
>> but that maybe you say things like that here to see what the reaction
>> is because this is a "safe" place for that kind of experimentation.
>> 
>> Or maybe not.
> 
> Actually I was exaggerating, but anyway... :-.

Well, either way... :-)

Jim


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 01:33:47
Message: <47047b3b@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Anyway, she just phoned me, so at least now I finally know what her 

Woah, wait, what happened?  Clearly I've been away from this group for too 
many weeks and missed something important...

Someone fill me in!

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 07:56:55
Message: <4704d507$1@news.povray.org>
Lance Birch wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> Anyway, she just phoned me, so at least now I finally know what her 
> 
> Woah, wait, what happened?  Clearly I've been away from this group for 
> too many weeks and missed something important...
> 
> Someone fill me in!

Mascot complains about not meeting girl, Group attempts to cheer Mascot 
up, Mascot meets girl, Mascot feels he has a chance with girl, Mascot 
talks about girl.

Concise enough?


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 10:26:40
Message: <4704f820@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> Lance Birch wrote:
>> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>> Anyway, she just phoned me, so at least now I finally know what her 
>>
>> Woah, wait, what happened?  Clearly I've been away from this group for 
>> too many weeks and missed something important...
>>
>> Someone fill me in!
> 
> Mascot complains about not meeting girl, Group attempts to cheer Mascot 
> up, Mascot meets girl, Mascot feels he has a chance with girl, Mascot 
> talks about girl.
> 
> Concise enough?

Yep, that pretty much says everything I need to know :D

Lance.

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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 13:22:40
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Lance Birch wrote:

> Woah, wait, what happened?  Clearly I've been away from this group for 
> too many weeks and missed something important...
> 
> Someone fill me in!

I've found a girl who seems extremely nice, but is also increadibly 
busy. If she's ever not busy for long enough, this may or may not become 
a beautiful relationship... And that's roughly as much as I know.

-- 
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 13:55:33
Message: <47052914@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I've found a girl who seems extremely nice, but is also increadibly 
> busy. If she's ever not busy for long enough, this may or may not become 
> a beautiful relationship...

  Do you really want a relationship with a person who is always busy and
constantly travelling?

  IIRC you hate travelling at an almost pathological level.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 14:06:33
Message: <47052ba9$1@news.povray.org>
Lance Birch escribió:
> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> Anyway, she just phoned me, so at least now I finally know what her 
> 
> Woah, wait, what happened?  Clearly I've been away from this group for 
> too many weeks and missed something important...
> 
> Someone fill me in!
> 
> Lance.
> 
> thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au

Full story is on the "Virtual Insanity" thread, if you're interested.


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 14:41:16
Message: <470533cc$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
<snip>
>   IIRC you hate travelling at an almost pathological level.

For some reason that made me laugh out loud...

Lance.

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 14:43:30
Message: <47053452@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Lance Birch escribió:
>> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>> Anyway, she just phoned me, so at least now I finally know what her 
>>
>> Woah, wait, what happened?  Clearly I've been away from this group for 
>> too many weeks and missed something important...
>>
>> Someone fill me in!
>>
>> Lance.
>>
>> thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
> 
> Full story is on the "Virtual Insanity" thread, if you're interested.

Hmm... that looks like a big thread.  It will have to wait until after I 
get some sleep I suppose (it's now 4:45 AM here)... hmm!

Lance.

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 4 Oct 2007 14:47:17
Message: <47053535$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Lance Birch wrote:
> 
>> Woah, wait, what happened?  Clearly I've been away from this group for 
>> too many weeks and missed something important...
>>
>> Someone fill me in!
> 
> I've found a girl who seems extremely nice, but is also increadibly 
> busy. If she's ever not busy for long enough, this may or may not become 
> a beautiful relationship... And that's roughly as much as I know.

Hmm, well... good luck.  I have a girl story too, actually, but it kind of 
didn't end well.

But for now, need sleep!  *wanders off in the darkness and flops into bed*

Keep us posted... (as if I have to ask)

Lance.

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 5 Oct 2007 05:53:52
Message: <470609b0@news.povray.org>
"Lance Birch" wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> I've found a girl who seems extremely nice, but is also increadibly busy. 
>> If she's ever not busy for long enough, this may or may not become a 
>> beautiful relationship... And that's roughly as much as I know.
>
> Hmm, well... good luck.  I have a girl story too, actually, but it kind of 
> didn't end well.

Do post, if you feel like sharing. The bad ending ones are the ones people 
actually care to read anyway.

It might be different in Andrews case - when he some day finally have a good 
ended story about a girl to tell, there will probably be a reaction, but 
only because "Andrew's missing love" has become a soap here, so the climatic 
ending is highly anticipated. A conflict is a good story, resoluted in the 
end or not, but a good ending without a prior established conflict is not...

Rune


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 5 Oct 2007 11:36:42
Message: <47065a0a@news.povray.org>
Rune wrote:
> "Lance Birch" wrote:
>> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>> I've found a girl who seems extremely nice, but is also increadibly busy. 
>>> If she's ever not busy for long enough, this may or may not become a 
>>> beautiful relationship... And that's roughly as much as I know.
>> Hmm, well... good luck.  I have a girl story too, actually, but it kind of 
>> didn't end well.
> 
> Do post, if you feel like sharing. The bad ending ones are the ones people 
> actually care to read anyway.
> 
> It might be different in Andrews case - when he some day finally have a good 
> ended story about a girl to tell, there will probably be a reaction, but 
> only because "Andrew's missing love" has become a soap here, so the climatic 
> ending is highly anticipated. A conflict is a good story, resoluted in the 
> end or not, but a good ending without a prior established conflict is not...

Hmm... that's a good observation.

Well, for me... I won't post the whole story, but a quick summary is that 
a girl asked me out (yes you did read that correctly, a girl... asked... 
*me*... out!  Me!  Asked me out!%$@).  Don't get too excited though, 
because things ended in disappointment for everyone.

Some back story:  When I occasionally head out of town for the weekend to 
visit my brother with my parents we often go to a certain café to have 
lunch.  It's kind of like a tradition now - the food there is great, and 
we've gotten to know the owner quite well (as not only have we now been 
going there for years, but coincidentally we used to visit another 
business that they ran many years ago as well).  So, we're treated like 
family there and know the staff well.

A few months ago the owner, while we were talking about the fact that my 
brother and I don't have girlfriends, joked to me that one of the staff 
there (the girl in question) had said that I was "kind of cute".  It was a 
passing comment and I didn't really think much more of it.

Time went by and, unbeknownst to me, this girl had apparently been 
considering asking me out for quite some time (!) and it had become a 
running inside-joke with the staff there every time we visited.  They had 
been joking with her and encouraging her to ask me out, and she had been 
becoming increasing more nervous about doing so.  Last weekend the plot 
thickened considerably.  Apparently the previous time we'd been there 
(several weeks earlier), she had seen us come in from their second nearby 
café (they own two, the main café, and a second smaller terrace café about 
80 metres away) and run from the smaller café to the main café to try to 
serve us so that she could ask me out :o  But it wasn't to be, because the 
owner had started serving us already, so that was the end of that.  Until 
last weekend, when we visited again, and this time she was there.

We ordered as usual and went and found a table, and when our coffees were 
delivered the guy made a particular point of my coffee saying "and this 
coffee is especially for you".  I didn't really know what he was talking 
about until I decided to take a sip and upon lifting up the cup found a 
tiny envelope under it on the saucer.  You can see where this is going... 
heh.  I opened it up, being watched closely now by my family (and, they 
later told me, all of the staff) and sure enough it was a note from her 
asking me out, with her phone number!

I nearly fell off my chair.

Now I'm going to cut to the chase;  she's pretty (although not really my 
type - but she likes me so who cares), she's bubbly and enthusiastic, 
she's my age... but...

I'm in a very strange point in my life right now, and a relationship would 
be an irresponsible thing to enter into, for her and for me, and this is 
what I ended up telling her.

Disappointed at how this story is going now?  And that's how I'm sure she 
felt, after picking up the courage to ask someone out like that, and for 
how long she's had this crush.  And it's how my family felt too, because 
they'd instantly become wrapped up in the excitement of the moment as 
well.  I'm sure the other staff, after hearing how things turned out, felt 
disappointed for her as well.  And it's how I felt, because the most 
painful feeling is knowing that you've let everyone down.  In fact it's a 
horrible, unimaginably bad feeling, one that hollows you out and leaves 
you feeling like a fool.

So... that's the story so far.  It's going to be interesting next time we 
go there... interesting, and uncomfortable.  The reasons for not wanting a 
relationship right now are complex (but they are very good reasons; ones 
not arrived at by accident or impulse), and I don't really want to go into 
them here, but that's how it is :/  I explained them to my family and to 
her though, which was a difficult thing for me to do, but necessary.  I 
think everyone understood then, but things are now very strange.

.. I don't know how to finish this post, because I suppose the saga isn't 
really over yet!  But there you have it, that's my story.

Lance.

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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 5 Oct 2007 13:10:54
Message: <4706701e$1@news.povray.org>
Lance Birch wrote:

> We ordered as usual and went and found a table, and when our coffees 
> were delivered the guy made a particular point of my coffee saying "and 
> this coffee is especially for you".  I didn't really know what he was 
> talking about until I decided to take a sip and upon lifting up the cup 
> found a tiny envelope under it on the saucer.  You can see where this is 
> going... heh.  I opened it up, being watched closely now by my family 
> (and, they later told me, all of the staff) and sure enough it was a 
> note from her asking me out, with her phone number!
> 
> I nearly fell off my chair.

Hahahahah!

0WNERSHIP!

Man, that's just far out...

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From: St 
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 5 Oct 2007 13:36:07
Message: <47067607$1@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:4706701e$1@news.povray.org...

So, where are you up to with your girl? Is she back yet? Did you text her 
saying that you would like to take her out for a nice meal on her return?


    ~Steve~





> -- 
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 5 Oct 2007 14:17:25
Message: <47067fb5@news.povray.org>
Aww, such a sweet story though. Taking her time building up courage and 
delivering a note all "Amélie style" and all... Too bad about that strange 
point in your life, whatever it is. If you would really have liked to go on 
a date with her, I hope you didn't take the responsibility issue too 
serious. I mean, you shouldn't break promises, but if you make your 
situation clear to her and treat her with respect, it might not have hurt 
going on a few dates, even if you know you couldn't commit to a lasting 
relationship. I know some people will disagree with me on this one, but 
sometimes seizing the day right now is more important than considering the 
future, if you want to fully live life. But then, I don't know if you 
actually did go on some dates. The story's a bit fuzzy there, but that's all 
right. :)

In any case, I hope the thought about this sweet girl actually being so 
interested in you for a long time brings a little warmth to you, even if 
things didn't end perfectly.

Rune


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 5 Oct 2007 14:30:45
Message: <470682d5$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:

> So, where are you up to with your girl? Is she back yet? Did you text her 
> saying that you would like to take her out for a nice meal on her return?

*Hopefully* I will be meeting up with her next weekend.

At least, I *really* hope so, because directly after that she's going to 
"dominican republic" for a month. ("Holiday".)

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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 5 Oct 2007 14:39:59
Message: <470684ff$1@news.povray.org>
Lance Birch wrote:
> Rune wrote:
>> "Lance Birch" wrote:
>>> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>>> I've found a girl who seems extremely nice, but is also increadibly 
>>>> busy. If she's ever not busy for long enough, this may or may not 
>>>> become a beautiful relationship... And that's roughly as much as I 
>>>> know.
>>> Hmm, well... good luck.  I have a girl story too, actually, but it 
>>> kind of didn't end well.
>>
>> Do post, if you feel like sharing. The bad ending ones are the ones 
>> people actually care to read anyway.
>>
>> It might be different in Andrews case - when he some day finally have 
>> a good ended story about a girl to tell, there will probably be a 
>> reaction, but only because "Andrew's missing love" has become a soap 
>> here, so the climatic ending is highly anticipated. A conflict is a 
>> good story, resoluted in the end or not, but a good ending without a 
>> prior established conflict is not...
> 
> Hmm... that's a good observation.
> 
> Well, for me... I won't post the whole story, but a quick summary is 
> that a girl asked me out (yes you did read that correctly, a girl... 
> asked... *me*... out!  Me!  Asked me out!%$@).  Don't get too excited 
> though, because things ended in disappointment for everyone.
> 
> Some back story:  When I occasionally head out of town for the weekend 
> to visit my brother with my parents we often go to a certain café to 
> have lunch.  It's kind of like a tradition now - the food there is 
> great, and we've gotten to know the owner quite well (as not only have 
> we now been going there for years, but coincidentally we used to visit 
> another business that they ran many years ago as well).  So, we're 
> treated like family there and know the staff well.
> 
> A few months ago the owner, while we were talking about the fact that my 
> brother and I don't have girlfriends, joked to me that one of the staff 
> there (the girl in question) had said that I was "kind of cute".  It was 
> a passing comment and I didn't really think much more of it.
> 
> Time went by and, unbeknownst to me, this girl had apparently been 
> considering asking me out for quite some time (!) and it had become a 
> running inside-joke with the staff there every time we visited.  They 
> had been joking with her and encouraging her to ask me out, and she had 
> been becoming increasing more nervous about doing so.  Last weekend the 
> plot thickened considerably.  Apparently the previous time we'd been 
> there (several weeks earlier), she had seen us come in from their second 
> nearby café (they own two, the main café, and a second smaller terrace 
> café about 80 metres away) and run from the smaller café to the main 
> café to try to serve us so that she could ask me out :o  But it wasn't 
> to be, because the owner had started serving us already, so that was the 
> end of that.  Until last weekend, when we visited again, and this time 
> she was there.
> 
> We ordered as usual and went and found a table, and when our coffees 
> were delivered the guy made a particular point of my coffee saying "and 
> this coffee is especially for you".  I didn't really know what he was 
> talking about until I decided to take a sip and upon lifting up the cup 
> found a tiny envelope under it on the saucer.  You can see where this is 
> going... heh.  I opened it up, being watched closely now by my family 
> (and, they later told me, all of the staff) and sure enough it was a 
> note from her asking me out, with her phone number!
> 
> I nearly fell off my chair.
> 
> Now I'm going to cut to the chase;  she's pretty (although not really my 
> type - but she likes me so who cares), she's bubbly and enthusiastic, 
> she's my age... but...
> 
> I'm in a very strange point in my life right now, and a relationship 
> would be an irresponsible thing to enter into, for her and for me, and 
> this is what I ended up telling her.
> 
> Disappointed at how this story is going now?  And that's how I'm sure 
> she felt, after picking up the courage to ask someone out like that, and 
> for how long she's had this crush.  And it's how my family felt too, 
> because they'd instantly become wrapped up in the excitement of the 
> moment as well.  I'm sure the other staff, after hearing how things 
> turned out, felt disappointed for her as well.  And it's how I felt, 
> because the most painful feeling is knowing that you've let everyone 
> down.  In fact it's a horrible, unimaginably bad feeling, one that 
> hollows you out and leaves you feeling like a fool.
> 
> So... that's the story so far.  It's going to be interesting next time 
> we go there... interesting, and uncomfortable.  The reasons for not 
> wanting a relationship right now are complex (but they are very good 
> reasons; ones not arrived at by accident or impulse), and I don't really 
> want to go into them here, but that's how it is :/  I explained them to 
> my family and to her though, which was a difficult thing for me to do, 
> but necessary.  I think everyone understood then, but things are now 
> very strange.
> 
> ... I don't know how to finish this post, because I suppose the saga 
> isn't really over yet!  But there you have it, that's my story.
> 
> Lance.
> 
> thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au


Hey Andrew....  I heard about this little cafe with a cute employee....

if things don't work for Lance it might be worth considering trying all 
sorts of coffee flavors.....

then again....


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 6 Oct 2007 00:54:56
Message: <47071520$1@news.povray.org>
Tom Austin wrote:
> Hey Andrew....  I heard about this little cafe with a cute employee....
> 
> if things don't work for Lance it might be worth considering trying all 
> sorts of coffee flavors.....
> 
> then again....

LOL :)

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Her again
Date: 6 Oct 2007 01:10:05
Message: <470718ad@news.povray.org>
Rune wrote:
> Aww, such a sweet story though. Taking her time building up courage and 
> delivering a note all "Amélie style" and all... Too bad about that strange 
> point in your life, whatever it is. If you would really have liked to go on 
> a date with her, I hope you didn't take the responsibility issue too 
> serious. I mean, you shouldn't break promises, but if you make your 
> situation clear to her and treat her with respect, it might not have hurt 
> going on a few dates, even if you know you couldn't commit to a lasting 
> relationship. I know some people will disagree with me on this one, but 
> sometimes seizing the day right now is more important than considering the 
> future, if you want to fully live life. But then, I don't know if you 
> actually did go on some dates. The story's a bit fuzzy there, but that's all 
> right. :)

No we didn't... Another part of the problem was that she'd assumed I lived 
with my brother there, but in reality I live a 4 hour drive away.  But I 
know what you mean about seizing the day, and if I'd really been 'into' 
her then I probably would have gone on a date.  Once things settle down a 
bit I'll probably get in touch again and might go out with her somewhere 
just to make up for the way things happened (my brother wants me to make 
it a double date - get her to bring a lady friend along for him!).  The 
logistics of being where I am make it not as straight-forward though, even 
without all of the other stuff (which is far more complex than what I've 
mentioned here, but with time will become less so).

> In any case, I hope the thought about this sweet girl actually being so 
> interested in you for a long time brings a little warmth to you, even if 
> things didn't end perfectly.

Oh, it does; it's very flattering!  It's not often (at least not for me!) 
that someone tells you're cute and that they like you :O  In fact I don't 
recall that ever happening to me before, and in general I can't think of 
any girl that has asked out a guy... it's always been the other way around.

Life is a funny thing...

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au


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